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Re: Fuel Brand
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2020, 02:01:28 PM »

I remember the "gas wars". 32 cents a gallon on one side of the street and 29 cents on the other side. The lowest price I recall was 22 cents.

I don' think we had Sunoco here, but we had Texaco, Enco (now Exxon), Gulf (now Chevron), Sinclair, Mobil, and a few Phillips 66. My dads preference was Enco and would filler up with Ethel.
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Re: Fuel Brand
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2020, 02:29:00 PM »

Memory lane...
 As a young whippersnapper one gas war in Hillsboro  was at .19.  Cheapest I can remember.

Conoco I worked at had 3 pumps & was full service.  We had 3 tanks - premium, unleaded, and diesel.  Diesel pump was stand alone.  The other 2 pumps had 4 octanes of gas to dispense - 100% premium, Super (blend with more premium that unleaded), Regular (blend with more unleaded than premium), and Unleaded.  The Unleaded was cheap gas & most of the 4 years I worked there the price was about .27.  Last  year it was in the .50 range & drivers were pissed.  Price spread from Premium to Unleaded was maybe a dime.

All high performance cars used Premium & some used Super. We sold a lot of Regular, the Unleaded stuff was not so great. Had to wear a uniform with a hat.  Wash windows, check oil, check tires - standard stuff.  We gave away all sorts of freebies for fillups - bottle openers, pens, in car litter bags. I made $1.35/hour at the end of my last year.  It was a different world.
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Re: Fuel Brand
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2020, 02:35:10 PM »

Shell v-power. No other, always.  Try running a Harley on other fuels in very hot (say 110F) weather, and it will sound like a bag'o'wrenches.  Then put V-Power in and appreciate the difference!
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Re: Fuel Brand
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2020, 07:39:46 AM »

Still have some of those litter bags and key rings.




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Re: Fuel Brand
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2020, 06:56:00 AM »

Ah the days of Sunoco 260....I think when the first V8 Camaros came out, they recommended the 260.  I got used to using it, during those days and use it almost exclusively in my bike.  At times I can't find Sunoco, the bike does not run so well.  I think most Harleys will run best using the same brand of gas, rather than switching brands based on cost.  Gas Buddy app is your friend!
There are still some Sunoco stations around in FL, GA, AL and TN that I know of and have been to.  Just not all over the place like they use to be.
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Re: Fuel Brand
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2020, 10:49:54 AM »

Top Tier Gasoline Providers

"TOP TIER™ Detergent Gasoline was first introduced in 2004 when a group of automakers recognized the need for a higher detergency gasoline standard than that required by regulation."

https://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=post;topic=120621.0;last_msg=1508426

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Re: Fuel Brand
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2020, 10:17:29 AM »

The only vehicles Ic have owned that have required Top Tier gas have  been  my 2014 Stingray and my 2018 Grand Sport.  That said since 2014 top tier is the only gas I use in any of our cars, trucks or bikes. 

Yes I can get Top Tier no ethanal 93 octane with in 10 miles of the house at Exxon.
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Re: Fuel Brand
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2020, 11:06:24 AM »

as a rule of thumb, i try to run BP, but the rental has the most forgiving motor/tune when it comes to fuel that i have had, it dont have any ill side effects to any fuel grade or brand... it even runs fine if  i have to put ethanol in when there are no options available. and is always getting 38 to 41 mpg 
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Re: Fuel Brand
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2020, 11:59:11 AM »

The only time we have had a issue is from Sam's club. both our 14 Roadking ping. Other wise we stick with name brand. Billy
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Re: Fuel Brand
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2020, 12:19:55 PM »

Here in BC.....93 no ethanol at Chevron is the first choice!
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Re: Fuel Brand
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2020, 10:57:09 PM »

As far as performance vs octane- VP racing gas has some great information on their web site. The bottom line one shoe does not fit all. You want the fuel to give up its energy at the most advantage point in the piston stroke. Often time high octane can burn longer and actually cause an engine to run hotter as the fuel energy is not optimized. Years ago, I believe it was HOT ROD magazine performed dyno pulls on basically stock, low compression v-8 and the lower octane 87 made more hp than 93 octane or even racing gas. It is important to note that there must be a high enough octane rating to prevent pre- detonation or pre-ignition ( both can be referred to as spark nock). I agree modern electronic systems can somewhat adjust for various fuels but the best scenario is when the physics are optimized.
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Re: Fuel Brand
« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2020, 06:43:39 AM »

My 2017 3.5 eco boost truck gets 1 to 2 mpg better on 93 octane.  However the increased cost of premium 93 and only a 2mpg gain makes it more economical to run 87.  Also tried with 89. 

But still even at 87, its always Top Tier gas
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Re: Fuel Brand
« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2020, 08:52:45 AM »


In the overall scheme of things, people should be fine as long as they stick to branded fuel with a known source.  I remember a few years back in my neck of the woods people were complaining about bad fuel that was causing problems in their vehicles.  Turns out they were using a no-name gas station that was buying reclaimed gas and other crap of no known lineage.  For those who don't know, "reclaimed" gas is the stuff they drain out of wrecked and abandoned vehicles, suck out of old in-ground tanks, etc.

Spend some time getting to know where your retailers get their fuel, if they are self branded.  For instance, we have a regional fuel and convenience store chain called Luke's.  Some of their stations are branded Shell stations, the rest buy their fuel from the local BP refinery and distributor.  Others like Meijer get their fuel from Marathon or BP.  When you come across the independent stations with names like "gas for less", be very wary.  The reason I know some of this stuff has to do with a BP recall a few years ago.  They had a big batch of gasoline that was bad and damaging engines, and they sold that fuel to many places other than BP stations.  It was eye opening to a lot of people when a full list of their customers was published in regard to that recall.

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