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Re: '07 vs. '08 Springer
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2008, 02:15:04 PM »

Best thing about 08 Springer wheels  is that both are radial. This makes them much stronger on the walls thus not allowing the ballon of the wheel to have the tendency to give way when a lot of centrifugal and centripetal forces are exerted on the tires. This means they maintain their shape a lot better than normal ply bias wheels. All sports bikes "wear" them, so my guess is that the 08's should handle better. Have to check the alignment of the wheels, because I don't believe they come from the factory out of line; if so the bike would behave differently when taking right handers or lefthanders and I haven't noticed anything weird; still I've only done 500 miles so it is soon to tell  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: '07 vs. '08 Springer
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2008, 08:53:00 AM »

Nice bike Spanish Flyerand a good shot of it.  Good analogy on the front tire.  I don't think the 2007 was thought of as a cornering machine at speed, kind of like a T-Bucket railer. 

Well my bike has been done (tires) and is in winter storage there (50 miles).  Waiting for the HORROR when I pick it up......S/F  Jack
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Re: '07 vs. '08 Springer
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2008, 10:40:07 PM »

Best thing about 08 Springer wheels  is that both are radial. This makes them much stronger on the walls thus not allowing the ballon of the wheel to have the tendency to give way when a lot of centrifugal and centripetal forces are exerted on the tires.

I'm not trying to be a wise guy, but can you explain this a little more? And also, what do you mean by "ballon"?  I looked it up in the dictionary, and the definition doesn't make sense to this application. Thanks.
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Re: '07 vs. '08 Springer
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2008, 07:32:12 AM »

I'm not trying to be a wise guy, but can you explain this a little more? And also, what do you mean by "ballon"?  I looked it up in the dictionary, and the definition doesn't make sense to this application. Thanks.

I believe he spelled "BALOON" wrong....  :coolblue:
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Re: '07 vs. '08 Springer
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2008, 04:28:37 AM »

Thanks for the correction Deuce Bigelow, it seems we both got it wrongly spelled  :oops:

Sorry folks I actually meant "BALLOON"

Here's a link from Michellin explaining the differences between both type of tires..
http://www.michelinag.com/agx/en-US/products/advantages/bias_radial/bias_radial.jsp

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Re: '07 vs. '08 Springer
« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2008, 12:55:36 PM »

08 feels heavy in the front end to me, cornering i see no difference, 08 seems better in the loose roadways,they say it is better balanced? maybe i am used to my 07, still feels heavy in the front to me
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Re: '07 vs. '08 Springer
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2008, 05:10:03 PM »

Cobra,

So far you are the only one who has ridden both. Interesting observations!

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Re: '07 vs. '08 Springer
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2008, 09:51:07 AM »

As far as the cornering and radial tire explanation listed in the other posts, i can say that my 07 ran the Tail of the Dragon at speed and had no cornering issues.(except foot pegs grinding on the roadway) The 08 bikes do have an offset front to rear tire alignment. I considered buying an 08 but after driving it and the appeal to me is the 07 is a better looking bike anyway. So i am considering a SERK for this years purchase.
a lot of guys say the springers in general do not corner good and are too primative of a suspension, they are leary of the skinny front tire etc. I have no reservations at all about the springers in riding in a reasonable fashion. For sure it is not a crouch rocket suspension, but then again what Harley does?
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Re: '07 vs. '08 Springer
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2008, 02:59:38 PM »

A 07 better looking than a 08?????? :soapbox: very funny  ;D NO WAY! just looking at that front bicycle wheel of yours... :bananarock:

Now seriously, I believe the 08 is a better equilibrated bike since the difference in size between the front and rear tires is very much the same as any high performance road bike which are supossed to be the best handling bikes in tonw... But if we are going by the taste and the different opinions, you have the best looking bike and I also have the same; yours is 07 and mine 08...
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Re: '07 vs. '08 Springer
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2008, 03:50:24 PM »

Maybe I'm just goofy but I don't see how Harley could build a bike with an offset front wheel.  It wouldn't track right and the shops are always concerned about making sure the wheels are aligned when they adjust the belt or change out a tire.

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Re: '07 vs. '08 Springer
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2008, 03:52:55 PM »

So far, only Cobra has ridden both. Everything else is just guessing.
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Re: '07 vs. '08 Springer
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2008, 04:00:59 PM »

Maybe I'm just goofy but I don't see how Harley could build a bike with an offset front wheel.  It wouldn't track right and the shops are always concerned about making sure the wheels are aligned when they adjust the belt or change out a tire.

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Take a look at an '07 Springer front end. The wheel is not centered between the forks, it is moved to the right to keep it in line with the fat rear. Now look at the '08: the front tire is centered in the forks and nothing else is changed. According to the mechanics at our local shop, many Harleys over the years have not had their front and rear tires in the same plane. They tell me that the Dynas are generally the best aligned. I've never measured it so I don't know.
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Re: '07 vs. '08 Springer
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2008, 03:40:17 PM »

I'll take a look this weekend, when I install the ThunderMax I will also check front to rear wheel alignment with my laser measuring device...Still, a couple of nylon fishing lines will do; I'll keep you informed, but to tell you the truth I'd be very very upset with Harley if the wheels are not aligned as they should...
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Re: '07 vs. '08 Springer
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2008, 10:09:16 PM »

Good deal! Will look forward to hearing the results of the laser measurements.
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Re: '07 vs. '08 Springer
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2008, 11:32:23 PM »

I'll take a look this weekend, when I install the ThunderMax I will also check front to rear wheel alignment with my laser measuring device...
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How did the wheels measure out?
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