Post by: mjb765 on September 04, 2019, 09:58:31 PM
Thoughts????
Update--I just read that the 2019 CVO Road Glide has a 21" front wheel...I think that will make it worse and I am probably going with a Limited......anybody agree?
Post by: Screamin on September 05, 2019, 12:55:43 AM
Post by: Mofo67 on September 05, 2019, 04:38:11 AM
Post by: OBB on September 05, 2019, 06:06:27 AM
The ‘20 RG Limited comes with 13” rear shocks where both the ‘15 CVO SG and ‘19 CVO RG come with 12” rear shocks. The front suspension on the ‘15 and ‘20 should be the same but the ‘19 CVO RG is slightly different to accommodate the 21” front wheel.Front suspension changed again in 17 when the M8 came out. Even better than the 14-16 front forks.
Unless there's a color that really catches your eye in the '20 models, I'd look for a leftover '19. That's mainly due to the front fairing vents by the forks still having doors to close them. If you're not worried about those, then look for a '20. Rear shocks can always be changed. Ultra or Limited has a more comfy seat over your SESG also. Put T on the back and take her for a ride and see what she thinks.
Post by: mjb765 on September 05, 2019, 06:45:33 AM
Front suspension changed again in 17 when the M8 came out. Even better than the 14-16 front forks.
Unless there's a color that really catches your eye in the '20 models, I'd look for a leftover '19. That's mainly due to the front fairing vents by the forks still having doors to close them. If you're not worried about those, then look for a '20. Rear shocks can always be changed. Ultra or Limited has a more comfy seat over your SESG also. Put T on the back and take her for a ride and see what she thinks.
I think mainly it's the impact of hard bumps which is due to the 21" front wheel (19" on mine) --less tire and more rim makes it hit harder. The Limited has an 18" which gives more tire to absorb the hit. Stock seat on the limited is nicer for long rides as opposed to needing to change the seat on the CVO RG. I changed the seat on mine as well. Didn't know about the doors next to the forks--Thanks. As for color, I am really liking the Zephyr Blue/Black Sunglo on the '20 which is what started this.....
Post by: FLSTFI Dave on September 05, 2019, 07:31:41 AM
That said, you can add 13 inch rear shocks to a non Ultra / Limited and a front suspension. Look at Legends Axio front and rear or Ohlin front and rear, it will be much better than the limited or Ultra ride.
Post by: mjb765 on September 05, 2019, 01:25:05 PM
The 19/20 Road Glide Ultra / Limited will ride better than the CVO RG / SG. More side wall on front tire to absorb bumps. inch longer rear suspension to absorb bumps. Suspension front and rear was improved for the 17 model year. Seat is thicker more plush, so again better comfort.
That said, you can add 13 inch rear shocks to a non Ultra / Limited and a front suspension. Look at Legends Axio front and rear or Ohlin front and rear, it will be much better than the limited or Ultra ride.
agreed, but the real issue on the CVO RG for 2019 is the 21" front wheel and not much tire to absorb the bumps....think I am going with the Limited.
Post by: ultrarider123 on September 05, 2019, 01:34:12 PM
agreed, but the real issue on the CVO RG for 2019 is the 21" front wheel and not much tire to absorb the bumps....think I am going with the Limited.
Been keeping an eye on this...the color you like looks great in the pictures. Looking at the price, options, color and less exclusivity the CVO line has garnered these past few years, your choice is sound.
I agree with all your reasoning but you sure have a purdy scooter to trade...that color combo on your '15 SESG is one of my favorites.
OBB mentioned the two side vent doors are gone on the 2020 RG line? That would be a big issue for me. I hardly ever opened the top vent but kept the sides open in the Summer but closed in the Winter...guess you can't now.
Post by: mjb765 on September 05, 2019, 01:46:13 PM
Been keeping an eye on this...the color you like looks great in the pictures. Looking at the price, options, color and less exclusivity the CVO line has garnered these past few years, your choice is sound.
I agree with all your reasoning but you sure have a purdy scooter to trade...that color combo on your '15 SESG is one of my favorites.
OBB mentioned the two side vent doors are gone on the 2020 RG line? That would be a big issue for me. I hardly ever opened the top vent but kept the sides open in the Summer but closed in the Winter...guess you can't now.
Not trading the '15 SESG.....I love that bike......Wife does not ride her 09 Softail Deluxe the last few years and the dealer is giving me decent money so I am using that as a trade plus some cash. I will keep the Limited for 2UP and leave the SESG solo.
Post by: ultrarider123 on September 05, 2019, 01:47:27 PM
Not trading the '15 SESG.....I love that bike......Wife does not ride her 09 Softail Deluxe the last few years and the dealer is giving me decent money so I am using that as a trade plus some cash. I will keep the Limited for 2UP and leave the SESG solo.
:2vrolijk_21:
Post by: 9 1/2 Beers on September 05, 2019, 02:08:13 PM
Not trading the '15 SESG.....I love that bike......Wife does not ride her 09 Softail Deluxe the last few years and the dealer is giving me decent money so I am using that as a trade plus some cash. I will keep the Limited for 2UP and leave the SESG solo.
Nice choice :2vrolijk_21:
Post by: mjb765 on September 05, 2019, 02:12:50 PM
Nice choice :2vrolijk_21:
I was happy I got permission :pepper:
Post by: SHRADER on September 05, 2019, 02:25:58 PM
Post by: mjb765 on September 05, 2019, 02:46:17 PM
Please post some pictures once you get the new sickle Mike
will do...just made the call today.....the dealer either needs to order it or find one so it may be a while....
Post by: mjb765 on September 05, 2019, 08:07:57 PM
Please post some pictures once you get the new sickle Mike
Here is a pic I grabbed from the web
Post by: OBB on September 05, 2019, 08:48:39 PM
OBB mentioned the two side vent doors are gone on the 2020 RG line? That would be a big issue for me. I hardly ever opened the top vent but kept the sides open in the Summer but closed in the Winter...guess you can't now.
I guess a couple of old t-shirts can be stuffed in there in a pinch.
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Post by: mjb765 on September 05, 2019, 08:51:39 PM
I guess a couple of old t-shirts can be stuffed in there in a pinch.
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Or I can take the other bike :huepfenlol2: Or I think they have a black 19 in stock.....Not sure I want another black bike. :nixweiss:
Wonder if they could be added if I wanted to
Post by: mjb765 on September 05, 2019, 09:19:46 PM
http://www.eglidegoodies.com/id414.html
and here is a video of the bike at the release.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMvTZoo_Y0A
Post by: OBB on September 05, 2019, 09:49:35 PM
Not sure I understand where these would goI can tell you where they won't go. On any bike I own. Those look hideous.
http://www.eglidegoodies.com/id414.html
and here is a video of the bike at the release.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMvTZoo_Y0A
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Post by: mjb765 on September 05, 2019, 10:17:54 PM
I can tell you where they won't go. On any bike I own. Those look hideous.
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yes they do...
Post by: OBB on September 06, 2019, 06:10:19 AM
Post by: FLSTFI Dave on September 06, 2019, 07:31:04 AM
agreed, but the real issue on the CVO RG for 2019 is the 21" front wheel and not much tire to absorb the bumps....think I am going with the Limited.
I should have read your original post a little better and caught it was the 19 CVO RG, Yes, there is not much tire.
My 19 CVO RG lack of rubber on the tire up front is not much worse than the 13 CVO King with the 19. However the King rides and handles way better due to 13 inch Ohlin shocks in the rear for more travel and better bump dampening. The Front is Legends Axeo which really handles the bumps better. I will probably up grade the suspension on the RG, then the front will be closer to the King, but not quite as good.
Congratulations on the new RG Limited. Make them throw in a Heal Shifter. I know the lower vents do not close, for some its a big issue, for me it would be no issues, I have never closed them on my last three road glides, I ride year round into the 20's.
Post by: BigLew on September 06, 2019, 10:39:53 AM
BigLew
Post by: skratch on September 06, 2019, 10:58:46 AM
I know the lower vents do not close, for some its a big issue, for me it would be no issues, I have never closed them on my last three road glides, I ride year round into the 20's.
what kind of helmet do you wear? I haven't had this bike over a winter yet, but I did get caught in a monsoon rain storm and before I shut the lower vents, water was just being blown right into my face.
Post by: mjb765 on September 06, 2019, 12:25:18 PM
I should have read your original post a little better and caught it was the 19 CVO RG, Yes, there is not much tire.Thanks. Now I am just waiting for the bike to arrive....as for the heel shifter..its one of the first things I remove whenever i get a new bike.
My 19 CVO RG lack of rubber on the tire up front is not much worse than the 13 CVO King with the 19. However the King rides and handles way better due to 13 inch Ohlin shocks in the rear for more travel and better bump dampening. The Front is Legends Axeo which really handles the bumps better. I will probably up grade the suspension on the RG, then the front will be closer to the King, but not quite as good.
Congratulations on the new RG Limited. Make them throw in a Heal Shifter. I know the lower vents do not close, for some its a big issue, for me it would be no issues, I have never closed them on my last three road glides, I ride year round into the 20's.
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Post by: scottt on September 06, 2019, 06:06:11 PM
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Post by: mjb765 on September 06, 2019, 06:22:04 PM
Hope you went with the new cornering ABS package on your 2020? That would be a must on a new bike for me.Yep..got it
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Post by: fastfreddy on September 06, 2019, 07:02:05 PM
Post by: scottt on September 06, 2019, 07:12:15 PM
Yep..got itBest reason to go with a 2020. If it saved your beacon once it's worth the price of the whole bike. Your going to like the hill hold feature too.
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Smart buy on your part. Sadly, the CVO takes style over function. As you said, larger sidewalls are a good thing. Better ride, handling and frankly safety.
Let us know what you think when bike comes in.
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Post by: mjb765 on September 06, 2019, 07:45:14 PM
Best reason to go with a 2020. If it saved your beacon once it's worth the price of the whole bike. Your going to like the hill hold feature too.May not even notice to hill hold feature. I heard that you have to engage it somehow I think. Been riding forever without it....but who knows....
Smart buy on your part. Sadly, the CVO takes style over function. As you said, larger sidewalls are a good thing. Better ride, handling and frankly safety.
Let us know what you think when bike comes in.
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Post by: scottt on September 06, 2019, 08:12:04 PM
May not even notice to hill hold feature. I heard that you have to engage it somehow I think. Been riding forever without it....but who knows....Once you get the hang of it you'll like it, mainly when you stop on a slope.
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Post by: mjb765 on September 06, 2019, 08:17:46 PM
Once you get the hang of it you'll like it, mainly when you stop on a slope.Thanks but it's congratulations on the order for the new bike....now the wait begins.
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Post by: mjb765 on September 10, 2019, 11:03:18 PM
So who will talk me out of the CVO and tell me to get the '20 Limited? May be safer with a 110 with some work than a new M8??
Post by: OBB on September 11, 2019, 05:48:35 AM
So while I am waiting for the new bike...I found a 2016 CVO RG Ultra with ABS for $23K with 3,000 miles on it in Grey/Black. Wondering what to do...I could add the new radio and even some motor work and still not be at the cost of the new bike. Already has the heated seat and grips as well as better factory bars than the '20. Also looks to have exhaust done already as well...…now I am confused....damn internet!Better factor in a warranty on the 110 into the price of that......
So who will talk me out of the CVO and tell me to get the '20 Limited? May be safer with a 110 with some work than a new M8??
Post by: mjb765 on September 11, 2019, 06:55:54 AM
Better factor in a warranty on the 110 into the price of that......Need the extwnded warranty on the new one also.
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Post by: fastfreddy on September 11, 2019, 06:37:38 PM
So while I am waiting for the new bike...I found a 2016 CVO RG Ultra with ABS for $23K with 3,000 miles on it in Grey/Black. Wondering what to do...I could add the new radio and even some motor work and still not be at the cost of the new bike. Already has the heated seat and grips as well as better factory bars than the '20. Also looks to have exhaust done already as well...…now I am confused....damn internet!I have to say the grey/black 16 cvo RG is most likely the best bike HD ever put out :nixweiss: don't forget has a CB also but no apple car play. I haven't seen any thing yet that will get me to move off it.... yet
So who will talk me out of the CVO and tell me to get the '20 Limited? May be safer with a 110 with some work than a new M8??
Post by: mjb765 on September 11, 2019, 06:49:36 PM
I have to say the grey/black 16 cvo RG is most likely the best bike HD ever put out :nixweiss: don't forget has a CB also but no apple car play. I haven't seen any thing yet that will get me to move off it.... yet
If I go that route I would replace the radio with the newer version....considering I saved all that $$$$
Post by: rayson56 on September 11, 2019, 09:09:33 PM
FWIW
Post by: 2018_FLTRXSE on September 23, 2019, 06:24:18 AM
Post by: mjb765 on September 23, 2019, 07:09:38 AM
Post by: CVODON on September 23, 2019, 06:08:39 PM
And the hill hold feature, Our new car has it. I LOVE it, stop, take your foot off the brake and vehicle sits there until you give it gas to drive off. Great deal. The other is soon coming to bikes, smart cruise control. Our car has that as well. I entered Smokey Mountains last friday morning and turned cruise on at 45mph. I never touched the brakes or gas pedal again until we got to Gatlinsburg. At times we were running 10 mph behind slow traffic, once almost stopped as car in front suddenly turned into turnoff, but we slowed, accelerated as needed, I like technology.
Post by: scottt on September 23, 2019, 08:56:35 PM
I've had my 15 four years this month. Closed those vents once, to see if I could tell a difference. Been open ever since. Sidewall discussion on tires is way overated, Have you looked at cars in the last few years? Sidewall or aspect ratio has been getting shorter forever and new cars ride just fine. One poster on this listing even said taller sidewalls handle better? Wonder why vehicles that are made to 'handle" have short sidewalls?I agree with everything you posted except about tire sidewalls. The reason low profile tires sell and are used on some new cars is STYLE. Not function. As we know, style sells. On a motorcycle you want some sidewalls for cornering. They also serve as a shock absorbers and, should you pickup a nail, margin of safety before going down to rim.
And the hill hold feature, Our new car has it. I LOVE it, stop, take your foot off the brake and vehicle sits there until you give it gas to drive off. Great deal. The other is soon coming to bikes, smart cruise control. Our car has that as well. I entered Smokey Mountains last friday morning and turned cruise on at 45mph. I never touched the brakes or gas pedal again until we got to Gatlinsburg. At times we were running 10 mph behind slow traffic, once almost stopped as car in front suddenly turned into turnoff, but we slowed, accelerated as needed, I like technology.
That said; to each there own.
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Post by: Phreakyz on September 24, 2019, 06:11:04 AM
The other is soon coming to bikes, smart cruise control. Our car has that as well. I entered Smokey Mountains last friday morning and turned cruise on at 45mph. I never touched the brakes or gas pedal again until we got to Gatlinsburg. At times we were running 10 mph behind slow traffic, once almost stopped as car in front suddenly turned into turnoff, but we slowed, accelerated as needed, I like technology.Adaptive Cruise Control is AWESOME. It's one of those options that you never thought you needed until you have it and can't imagine doing without it! Our Dodge Charger has Adaptive Cruise and AUTOMATICALLY DIMMING HIGH BEAMS. Fun to set the cruise and the headlamps come on by themselves and then just watch the car do all the work!
Post by: OBB on September 24, 2019, 08:52:08 AM
Adaptive Cruise Control is AWESOME. It's one of those options that you never thought you needed until you have it and can't imagine doing without it! Our Dodge Charger has Adaptive Cruise and AUTOMATICALLY DIMMING HIGH BEAMS. Fun to set the cruise and the headlamps come on by themselves and then just watch the car do all the work!Those auto dimming high beams are something I can do without and don't use them on the wife's car or my new Ram. Just seems like they're too sensitive to the reflections off of road signs and such. Her car has a button to activate, the Ram you have to leave the turn signal stalk pushed forward and activate through the radio. I'm not crazy about the extra reach to the TS stalk for as little as I drive at night.
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Post by: mjb765 on September 24, 2019, 08:54:10 AM
Adaptive Cruise Control is AWESOME. It's one of those options that you never thought you needed until you have it and can't imagine doing without it! Our Dodge Charger has Adaptive Cruise and AUTOMATICALLY DIMMING HIGH BEAMS. Fun to set the cruise and the headlamps come on by themselves and then just watch the car do all the work!
I disabled the auto high beams on my truck as soon as I found out it had them. The hill holding feature on the bike may be cool.....who knows....I did do without it all these years.
Post by: fastfreddy on September 24, 2019, 09:28:47 AM
Post by: djnaldo on September 24, 2019, 05:55:27 PM
Post by: FLSTFI Dave on September 24, 2019, 09:07:22 PM
Do not have it in my Corvette, and thats fine as The corvette is for driving pleasure, has a 7 speed manual also. My truck is to haul the boat and to get me to the heliport.
Post by: acevtwin on September 25, 2019, 08:47:45 AM