Topic: You SESG Guys Crack Me Up... (Read 8151 times)

Jerry/MD · « **on:** August 26, 2012, 06:13:49 AM »

All this crowing about how valuable your bike's are and the added resale value you could get because the MOCO didn't offer a 2013 model. Let me see...they offered the CVO Street Glide for 3 years and my CVO Road Glide Ultra for 1 year? Using your rationale I must be sitting on a gold mine!

Let the games begin..................

Aussie · « **Reply #1 on:** August 26, 2012, 07:38:38 AM »

martys · « **Reply #2 on:** August 26, 2012, 07:57:31 AM »

Well the way I see it is... Chip says his 2001 SERG

(the second year for the Screamin Eagle) is worth something to the tune of $88,888.00 so my 2000 Triple Red

(one of the first Screamin Eagle's) has got to be worth $ 99,999.00 wouldn't ya think

TN · « **Reply #3 on:** August 26, 2012, 08:50:06 AM »

mine is priceless.

NYSport · « **Reply #4 on:** August 26, 2012, 10:36:54 AM »

^^^^^^^

Now that's a nice looking Road Glide.

LovemyCVOgirl · « **Reply #5 on:** August 26, 2012, 10:39:15 AM »

Quote from: TN on August 26, 2012, 08:50:06 AM

mine is priceless.

WOW! I'm not a big fan of the silver MC's but you have one beautiful RG

love that color

grc · « **Reply #6 on:** August 26, 2012, 10:51:23 AM »

Quote from: Jerry/MD on August 26, 2012, 06:13:49 AM

All this crowing about how valuable your bike's are and the added resale value you could get because the MOCO didn't offer a 2013 model. Let me see...they offered the CVO Street Glide for 3 years and my CVO Road Glide Ultra for 1 year? Using your rationale I must be sitting on a gold mine!

Let the games begin..................

Folks need to remember which century we are in; it's not the 1990's anymore. And Harley's, even CVO's, don't appreciate, they depreciate. Sure, people can still use that old story about selling it without taking a loss when trying to convince the spouse I suppose, but they should be very careful that they don't start believing their own propaganda.

Look at the NADA or KBB values for three to five year old CVO's, or just read some of the threads around here by people who have been highly disappointed when trying to sell their CVO's, and the truth starts to emerge. As Harley has cranked up the volume and turned the CVO into just another option package, retained value has worsened. I expect it will continue to do so. Then add in the thousands spent on the extra's that you won't get back when you trade or sell to get a more accurate picture. Most Harley folks who brag about retained value conveniently forget to mention those thousands of dollars and include them on the cost side of the comparison.

Jerry

Hammbone · « **Reply #7 on:** August 26, 2012, 11:04:49 AM »

You are probably right Jerry only 2100 units made of the FLTRUSE, where as there were 3500 units of the 2010 FLHXSE, 3500 units of the 2011 FLHXSE, and 2356 units of the 2012 SEEG's......

bmcgc · « **Reply #8 on:** August 26, 2012, 11:11:08 AM »

We have bought 6 Harleys. 06 FLHTCUSE, 07 FLHRC, 08 FXDSE2, 08 FXDF, and a 09 FLHT.

We bought all of them used for 30-50% less than the cost when new.

All of them had nice upgrades and accessories.

Used is the way to go IMO unless you have more money than you know what to do with.

We ride them 12-24 months and sell for close to what we paid.

Its all about the timing.

We currently have the SE Ultra and the Road King, I think we will keep those for a while, they run great, look great, fit us great, the best bikes we have ever owned.

BTW: Only 540 of my watermellon 06 FLHTCUSE so Im at a million+.

Cvostu · « **Reply #9 on:** August 26, 2012, 11:17:33 AM »

Jerry. Thanks for bringing us back to reality. I was hoping mine is worth an extra 15 k just because no 2013 will be offered. Guess I'm rong huh

VaEagle · « **Reply #10 on:** August 26, 2012, 12:54:25 PM »

I agree with the above posts about times are changed for resale values.
When money is tight for most people something like a motorcycle is a luxury as opposed to a must have. Those still interested in a motorcycle want good value for their hard earned money so they would look at things like "why pay new prices for a used bike?"
I had a 1997 Fatboy with the limited edition paint set for that year (only 100 sets made) and it held it's value pretty good because when the Twin Cam motor came out it had a few issues and many didn't trust it and they wanted an old EVO motor. Once the Twin cam was improved and trusted the value of my EVO went down quickly.
As far as collectability values , it needs to be limited in number to begin with to the point where not everyone who wanted one got one. Or all the ones sold were modified heavily and you happen to have one of the only original condition ones left. Then you have to have a knowledgeable buyer willing to pay what you think it's worth.
A new buyer may be swayed by the features in a newer model bike in the future such as water cooling,larger motor, improved brakes, improved stereo etc.
In short, all supply and demand....

Gank · « **Reply #11 on:** August 26, 2012, 01:09:30 PM »

Well I have a 2000 OBW SERG , the fastest bikes we all know, so mine must be worth $110,000 or $101,00 US$

BTW this years CVO RG sucks

Jerry/MD · « **Reply #12 on:** August 26, 2012, 01:57:18 PM »

Quote from: bmcgc on August 26, 2012, 11:11:08 AM

We have bought 6 Harleys. 06 FLHTCUSE, 07 FLHRC, 08 FXDSE2, 08 FXDF, and a 09 FLHT.

We bought all of them used for 30-50% less than the cost when new.

All of them had nice upgrades and accessories.

Used is the way to go IMO unless you have more money than you know what to do with.

We ride them 12-24 months and sell for close to what we paid.

Its all about the timing.

We currently have the SE Ultra and the Road King, I think we will keep those for a while, they run great, look great, fit us great, the best bikes we have ever owned.

BTW: Only 540 of my watermellon 06 FLHTCUSE so Im at a million+.

That's pretty impressive. Not sure if you got those kinda deals through a private seller or dealer. Around here there isn't much difference between the advertised price of a used or new Harley. So...unless the used bike has a ton of upgrades it just ain't worth it.

guppytrash · « **Reply #13 on:** August 26, 2012, 02:02:15 PM »

Since the 09's were the last to be hand built and not sent down the assembly line, I put my 09 at around $60k.
If I were to make the tour pak detachable and add a street glide seat it would be worth somewhere in the six figures.

KennyC · « **Reply #14 on:** August 26, 2012, 02:08:54 PM »

Donald Trump doesn't have enough money to buy my

!! And if he did I'd find one of those super cherry ones

like mine, that has been pampered and not ridden much, and buy it!!

MAT · « **Reply #15 on:** August 26, 2012, 02:15:49 PM »

Quote from: guppytrash on August 26, 2012, 02:02:15 PM

Since the 09's were the last to be hand built and not sent down the assembly line, I put my 09 at around $60k.
If I were to make the tour pak detachable and add a street glide seat it would be worth somewhere in the six figures.

Now your giving me great news!

Dr.D · « **Reply #16 on:** August 30, 2012, 02:18:08 PM »

I've put so much junk on my bike I can't afford to trade with it. I'll just have to buy another outright.

HogBreath · « **Reply #17 on:** August 30, 2012, 07:50:37 PM »

The only time I looked at my Harleys as an investment is when stock values were falling 45% a year. The harleys only depreciated 15% that year. My wife still didn't buy it.

KennyC · « **Reply #18 on:** August 30, 2012, 09:53:25 PM »

I'd hate to really know what my 3 Harleys have cost me the last 10 years!! But quess what?? I don't care!!

North Georgia Hawg · « **Reply #19 on:** August 30, 2012, 10:10:33 PM »

Quote from: KennyC on August 30, 2012, 09:53:25 PM

I'd hate to really know what my 3 Harleys have cost me the last 10 years!! But quess what?? I don't care!!

TOUCHE, Kenny! I don't give a rip what the resale value of the Honey Badger ever ends up being - because I will never, never, NEVER, N-E-V-E-R sell it!

klr2lnd · « **Reply #20 on:** August 31, 2012, 03:18:53 AM »

Quote from: Jerry/MD on August 26, 2012, 06:13:49 AM

All this crowing about how valuable your bike's are and the added resale value you could get because the MOCO didn't offer a 2013 model. Let me see...they offered the CVO Street Glide for 3 years and my CVO Road Glide Ultra for 1 year? Using your rationale I must be sitting on a gold mine!

Let the games begin..................

Jerry, relax! Let everyone be happy with what they have. We all can't be a "smart" as you.

D-N-D · « **Reply #21 on:** August 31, 2012, 05:50:26 AM »

KennyC · « **Reply #22 on:** August 31, 2012, 08:49:23 AM »

Quote from: North Georgia Hawg on August 30, 2012, 10:10:33 PM

TOUCHE, Kenny! I don't give a rip what the resale value of the Honey Badger ever ends up being - because I will never, never, NEVER, N-E-V-E-R sell it!

I feel the same way! I love my

I see more chrome in my future! New pipes, new shocks, new wheels and I'm sure there will be some more stuff! But not a new one, ever! My old frame bike with the 103 is just fine!!

110tHunDer · « **Reply #23 on:** August 31, 2012, 09:44:17 AM »

Quote from: North Georgia Hawg on August 30, 2012, 10:10:33 PM

TOUCHE, Kenny! I don't give a rip what the resale value of the Honey Badger ever ends up being - because I will never, never, NEVER, N-E-V-E-R sell it!

Never, say "never!" I did.

Kickst@nd · « **Reply #24 on:** August 31, 2012, 10:33:13 AM »

Amen to that. When your baby starts to cost you money then blows up on the road, You grieve for a period and move on to a new bike. That's what happened to me and now waiting on my 13 CVO RG.

110tHunDer · « **Reply #25 on:** August 31, 2012, 10:50:19 AM »

They have a funny way of letting you know when it's time to say goodbye.

laylonlor · « **Reply #26 on:** August 31, 2012, 11:02:49 AM »

all they are now,.. are speakers on wheels, (lol) :huepfenlol2:what ever happened to riding and enjoying the sound of your motor with the wind in your face, at the bike nites around here ,when the new hd's roll in all you here is loud music

KennyC · « **Reply #27 on:** August 31, 2012, 12:20:10 PM »

Quote from: laylonlor on August 31, 2012, 11:02:49 AM

all they are now,.. are speakers on wheels, (lol) :huepfenlol2:what ever happened to riding and enjoying the sound of your motor with the wind in your face, at the bike nites around here ,when the new hd's roll in all you here is loud music

I've seen that plenty around here too! This dude pulled into the Harley Shop lot here last week with the stereo so loud he wouldn't have heard a train a coming!! I like my tunes too but not like that! Mainly out on the Highway! Matter of a fact, my radios been on the blink about 5 months! Guess I'm not missing it to bad?

laylonlor · « **Reply #28 on:** August 31, 2012, 03:53:03 PM »

take out that mofo radio and HD can sell it for 16k, i never ever listen to the radio ,....make your motor sound good and you can take the radio out,.... i guess i'm too much old school

Wrongway · « **Reply #29 on:** August 31, 2012, 03:59:32 PM »

Where did Harley get the idea for the Street Glide? The overwhelming popularity of the 2004-2005 FLHTCSE, that's where. The Street Glide came out in 2006 after a very successful 2 year run of the custom, stripped down look of the FLHTCSE. So if you look at it that way, there was a Street Glide in 2004, 2005, 2010, 2011, and 2012! Now how it that for rare?

Texas Fat Boy · « **Reply #30 on:** August 31, 2012, 07:41:14 PM »

Quote from: Wrongway on August 31, 2012, 03:59:32 PM

Where did Harley get the idea for the Street Glide? The overwhelming popularity of the 2004-2005 FLHTCSE, that's where. The Street Glide came out in 2006 after a very successful 2 year run of the custom, stripped down look of the FLHTCSE. So if you look at it that way, there was a Street Glide in 2004, 2005, 2010, 2011, and 2012! Now how it that for rare?

True

grc · « **Reply #31 on:** August 31, 2012, 07:49:26 PM »

Only thing truly rare at H-D is good quality and customer service.

Jerry

RoadRunnr · « **Reply #32 on:** August 31, 2012, 07:55:48 PM »

Quote from: grc on August 31, 2012, 07:49:26 PM

Only thing truly rare at H-D is good quality and customer service.

Jerry

you don't like the Quality or Customer Service? Then why do you have a CVO? Shouldn't you have something like a BMW?
just asking, personally I am 50/50 on the Customer Service (Depends on the Dealer) and I love my CVO

geezerglide · « **Reply #33 on:** August 31, 2012, 08:02:32 PM »

Quote from: RoadRunnr on August 31, 2012, 07:55:48 PM

Shouldn't you have something like a BMW?

I guess you have never owned a BMW, except for a rare few dealers their customer service and lack of dealer networks aren't great. I know, I also have had a few BMW (Bring my Wallet).

geezerglide

Wrongway · « **Reply #34 on:** August 31, 2012, 08:09:56 PM »

Quote from: grc on August 31, 2012, 07:49:26 PM

Only thing truly rare at H-D is good quality and customer service.

Jerry

Sorry Roadrunner, this is by far the best known fact on this site!

KennyC · « **Reply #35 on:** September 01, 2012, 08:32:45 AM »

Quote from: Texas Fat Boy on August 31, 2012, 07:41:14 PM

True

Very True!! I tell people all the time (when they ask,'What kind is that?) mines like a Street Glide before they made the Street Glide. I traded a 06 SG for my 04

three and a half years ago. Just couldn't afford it in 04

bbrown · « **Reply #36 on:** September 01, 2012, 10:24:42 AM »

Quote from: Wrongway on August 31, 2012, 03:59:32 PM

Where did Harley get the idea for the Street Glide? The overwhelming popularity of the 2004-2005 FLHTCSE, that's where. The Street Glide came out in 2006 after a very successful 2 year run of the custom, stripped down look of the FLHTCSE. So if you look at it that way, there was a Street Glide in 2004, 2005, 2010, 2011, and 2012! Now how it that for rare?

Well said. Still wish I had kept "ole Blue"

RayG · « **Reply #37 on:** September 01, 2012, 11:15:15 AM »

I think Jerry was just being way to kind. HD quality and service is extremely rare. When are they going to make a bike that handles well and can go 100,000 with ease? I don't think it's going to happen in my lifetime. If you have not experienced the poor service and quality related issues you are indeed very fortunate. I and many others have had the usual experience of emptying our wallets just to make it somewhat pleasurable & dependale to ride.

spydglide · « **Reply #38 on:** September 01, 2012, 11:02:40 PM »

Quote from: bbrown on September 01, 2012, 10:24:42 AM

Well said. Still wish I had kept "ole Blue"

Nothing like those SEEG's!

har. spyder

KennyC · « **Reply #39 on:** September 02, 2012, 04:43:33 PM »

I'd have to say our local dealer had done me pretty good since I haven't ever bought a bike from them! Long story!! But they have done all my warrenty work ( 3 different Harleys) plus some things I couldn't or didn't want to do! It hasn't been all perfect but what is??

I'd give them an A- to B- so far!! Except for the time I did try to buy a bike from them! Salesman at the time...... F--.

bmcgc · « **Reply #40 on:** September 02, 2012, 05:26:35 PM »

Quote from: RayG on September 01, 2012, 11:15:15 AM

I think Jerry was just being way to kind. HD quality and service is extremely rare. When are they going to make a bike that handles well and can go 100,000 with ease? I don't think it's going to happen in my lifetime. If you have not experienced the poor service and quality related issues you are indeed very fortunate. I and many others have had the usual experience of emptying our wallets just to make it somewhat pleasurable & dependale to ride.

There ae lots of those bikes around. They are called Goldwings.

KennyC · « **Reply #41 on:** September 02, 2012, 10:22:40 PM »

I'd rather push my Harley than ride a Goldwing!! Sorry if that offends anyone! No I'm not really! I have a good friend with a Wing and he feels the same about my bike! Aw well, some got it, some don't!!

WYD OPN · « **Reply #42 on:** September 03, 2012, 10:08:49 AM »

Quote from: Hammbone on August 26, 2012, 11:04:49 AM

You are probably right Jerry only 2100 units made of the FLTRUSE, where as there were 3500 units of the 2010 FLHXSE, 3500 units of the 2011 FLHXSE, and 2356 units of the 2012 SEEG's......

Whoa.... Where'd you get that 2356 number for the FLHXSE3 total?

rmarion · « **Reply #43 on:** September 03, 2012, 05:57:31 PM »

with my tour pack is removed, the street glide comes to life..... and the same is said with the street glide owners who purchase a tour pack.....

Hammbone · « **Reply #44 on:** September 04, 2012, 02:56:44 AM »

I got the numbers right off the HD web site.....CVO see the full story.....starts at first CVO all colors engine options and units made

Hammbone · « **Reply #45 on:** September 04, 2012, 03:12:43 AM »

I should of said production number of units, engine displacepment, and color options......1999 to 2012 all CVO models....Click on pic of 2013 CVO bike on HD.com website and then scroll down to see full CVO story.....all the numbers are there

2timen · « **Reply #46 on:** September 04, 2012, 05:57:31 AM »

It seems to me that the values of the Harleys went down after 2003 when they flooded the market with a 14 month run and did not number the 100th Anniverary bikes. Prior to that you had to wait for the bike you wanted. Now the dealerships floors are full with what ever you want. I think that they shot themselves in the foot and got greedy. So we all pay the price for that. But the truth is I love everyone of the bikes I have and wish for more. And I don't really care about the resale value. I don't plan to sell them (yet). Maybe some day but not at this time. We all drink the MOCO's kool aid and then bitch about the cost and service(or lack of) But we are all here and loving it. Just my 2 cents.

Kickst@nd · « **Reply #47 on:** September 04, 2012, 08:44:01 AM »

Well said. I think I'll have another cup of cool aid to that!

KennyC · « **Reply #48 on:** September 04, 2012, 09:44:10 AM »

Quote from: Kickst@nd on September 04, 2012, 08:44:01 AM

Well said. I think I'll have another cup of cool aid to that!

Doubletap · « **Reply #49 on:** September 04, 2012, 11:00:59 AM »

I've never looked at any bike as an investment in value alone. That would only make sense if you started adding solid gold accessories. I look at them as therapy. I can never justify all my toys, nor would I ever want to try. Ride, enjoy and forget all the other crap.

North Georgia Hawg · « **Reply #50 on:** September 04, 2012, 11:43:28 AM »

Quote from: Doubletap on September 04, 2012, 11:00:59 AM

I've never looked at any bike as an investment in value alone. That would only make sense if you started adding solid gold accessories. I look at them as therapy. I can never justify all my toys, nor would I ever want to try. Ride, enjoy and forget all the other crap.

+10!

D-N-D · « **Reply #51 on:** September 04, 2012, 11:45:45 AM »

barefoot3zk5 · « **Reply #52 on:** September 04, 2012, 11:51:00 AM »

Yup .. Thats kinda what I was thinkin .. LOL
Ken how ya been brotha ??

michaelbmenaker · « **Reply #53 on:** September 04, 2012, 04:20:01 PM »

If you think drugs are addictive, try going a day without a rationalization.

North Georgia Hawg · « **Reply #54 on:** September 04, 2012, 05:30:33 PM »

Quote from: barefoot3zk5 on September 04, 2012, 11:51:00 AM

Yup .. Thats kinda what I was thinkin .. LOL
Ken how ya been brotha ??

Heehee... How art Howard? It's about TIME you put a pic of that beautifully blinged-out Bike-Formerly-Known-As-A-Krypto on your sig! I've been busy with work, house hunting, etc. Not much time for riding lately. My mods thread has some things I've done to the Honey Badger lately. How have you been?

bikerdad · « **Reply #55 on:** September 04, 2012, 07:13:20 PM »

so if they only made 213 of my '11 FLTRUSE....guess I could trade straight up with Tony Stark for his '32 Ford huh?

barefoot3zk5 · « **Reply #56 on:** September 04, 2012, 07:29:28 PM »

Quote from: North Georgia Hawg on September 04, 2012, 05:30:33 PM

Heehee... How art Howard? It's about TIME you put a pic of that beautifully blinged-out Bike-Formerly-Known-As-A-Krypto on your sig! I've been busy with work, house hunting, etc. Not much time for riding lately. My mods thread has some things I've done to the Honey Badger lately. How have you been?

Im good here .. see if you can Help Stu fix his bike up a lil .. I heard it was lookin like an Ultra >>> LOL

jaymedic44 · « **Reply #57 on:** September 05, 2012, 08:06:52 AM »

Wanna know what it's worth? Go to your local Harley steeler and tell him you want to trade it. Better take a box of tissues with you. You will be crying as you are walking out the door!

Author Topic: You SESG Guys Crack Me Up... (Read 8151 times)

Jerry/MD

Jerry/MD