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Re: LIVEWIRE
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2019, 10:12:38 PM »

$30 k for what is already a middling capability electric bike asinine.  Just nuts.  And here I was thinking Harley would inhale a breath of reality and come to market with this bike in the middle teens.  For something that by definition is a fart-around-town bike I'd do the scooters that Chip has in a heartbeat before ever considering this. 
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Re: LIVEWIRE
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2019, 07:28:55 AM »

$30,000 they are nuts..
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Re: LIVEWIRE
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2019, 07:38:08 AM »

$30,000 they are nuts..

It's a Harley  :nixweiss:
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Re: LIVEWIRE
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2019, 08:20:31 AM »

I have always been interest in the Livewire.  However, with this release they have sure lost me.

Its at least 12K to expensive, if it had a 300 mile range.  I figure 300 miles, so you can go for a ride in the mountains and make it home.

With a 110 mile range its about 20K to expensive.  I could not ride to the dealer and home on a single charge.
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Re: LIVEWIRE
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2019, 09:53:35 AM »

Pricing an electric bike at about the same price point as several new electric cars on the market would indicate that Harley's market research was done by a less reliable method than a drunk guy throwing darts at a Marketing Research Dartboard.  Not sure who the perceived market for this limited range LiveWire at this price point would be?  Suppose in a few months when they sell some we will find out.
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Re: LIVEWIRE
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2019, 10:23:04 AM »

At this price point, and with such limited range, this is going to be a flop. I could buy a used BMW R9T for $12-13k and save $17k.  Plus, have a bike I could ride more than 50 miles from home.
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Re: LIVEWIRE
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2019, 10:26:05 AM »

Suppose in a few months when they sell some we will find out.

That's what I was thinking. Maybe in 8-12 months the market will have a glut of "used" LiveWire bikes. By then we will have heard from owners about the major areas of complaint, comfort, ergonomics, range, lack of available upgrades,....the usual.

Maybe they'll make a "CVO LiveWaire",....let's see among us buys that,....LOL!!!
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Re: LIVEWIRE
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2019, 10:59:57 AM »

I agree with Chip, to run around town scooters are the way to go. Wife and I purchased a couple of
Honda PCX 150's. We get an average 109 mpg, have storage under the seat, and the cool FUN factor!
If we wanted faster we would have gone with the same scooter's as Chip. The PCX150 will do 60mph.
We plan on doing the BRP this year on the scooters! Oh, we paid around $3100 each OTD!
  I also believe Harley is way out of line with their pricing! Competition such as the Zero is at least $10k less!
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Re: LIVEWIRE
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2019, 11:11:18 AM »

That's what I was thinking. Maybe in 8-12 months the market will have a glut of "used" LiveWire bikes. By then we will have heard from owners about the major areas of complaint, comfort, ergonomics, range, lack of available upgrades,....the usual.

Maybe they'll make a "CVO LiveWaire",....let's see among us buys that,....LOL!!!

Now that's funny!!   ;D ;D ;D
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Re: LIVEWIRE
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2019, 11:23:46 AM »

Harley has always been proud of their prices. Ooops. I meant bikes.
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Re: LIVEWIRE
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2019, 11:40:38 AM »

They're pricing in  the exhaust note 'Mashed potato mashed potato'
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Re: LIVEWIRE
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2019, 12:01:26 PM »

Another point to consider with an all electric vehicle is that eventually the battery pack will need replacing and in turn how much will that cost in a new pack as well as what is cost or time to replace one.......I guess this may be the start of the "disposable" vehicle....Like them "new-fangled " smart phones where you cant replace the batteries you just throw the old one away and get new?  :huepfenlol2:
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Re: LIVEWIRE
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2019, 01:37:12 PM »

I have always been interest in the Livewire.  However, with this release they have sure lost me.

Its at least 12K to expensive, if it had a 300 mile range.  I figure 300 miles, so you can go for a ride in the mountains and make it home.

With a 110 mile range its about 20K to expensive.  I could not ride to the dealer and home on a single charge.

I am sure the dealership will offer to recharge your bike for only $29.95!

 :oops: :nixweiss:
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Re: LIVEWIRE
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2019, 04:00:08 PM »

Does the bike come with a charger and if so is it one you can take with you.
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Re: LIVEWIRE
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2019, 04:04:20 PM »

"The LiveWire™ can be charged at any compatible charging station, or with its on-board charger and a standard household outlet.
Level 1 (standard household outlet): 13 miles range per hour of charged.
Level 2: LiveWire can be connected to a Level 2 charge unit but will be charged at the Level 1 rate.
Level 3 (DC Fast Charge): 192 miles range per hour charged."
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