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SEEG Air Pressure in Air Shocks.
« on: July 06, 2005, 07:46:24 PM »

Somebody on this site reported that their dealership told them that the air pressure in the shocks is a maximum of 50 PSI instead of the 35 as reported in the manuel.

I contacted my friend who works in management at HD and this is his response to my question about that:

So, I investigated it myself and found that the 05MY FL CVO manual was indeed incorrect.  It should indeed say “50 psi (354 kPa)” for max and not “35 psi”.  I’ve got access to all manuals in electronic form and the 05MY manual has a note identifying the mis-print.  In looking at other manuals, the 35psi max applies for standard shocks but low-profile ones require more air pressure.  Dealers got a bulletin on this though, and they should have notified customers – especially CVO customers. J

Again, sorry for the delay and even more sorry for the error in the manual.  Hope this helps.

So take note, if your dealership hasn't contacted you yet.
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Re: SEEG Air Pressure in Air Shocks.
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2005, 07:50:12 PM »

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I’ve got access to all manuals in electronic form

JCZ, if you have the electronic version, can't you just post it for all of us?  
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Re: SEEG Air Pressure in Air Shocks.
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2005, 08:01:10 PM »

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JCZ, if you have the electronic version, can't you just post it for all of us?  


Oh I don't have it in electronic version.........I'm not in management at HD.  Only the privledged get that.  However, all joking aside, he's been great on confirming or denying rumors, etc. (such as this one) and so far (past two years) has been right every time......so I really do appreciate having access to him for this kind of thing.
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Re: SEEG Air Pressure in Air Shocks.
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2005, 06:50:25 AM »

Good job JC
Had read about the 50PSI but wasn't sure!

Thanks!
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Re: SEEG Air Pressure in Air Shocks.
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2005, 11:25:08 AM »

Good to know, thanks JC.
I had not been notified as of yet.
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Re: SEEG Air Pressure in Air Shocks.
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2005, 11:44:05 AM »

I'm not as smart as the rest of you guys,are you talking about the air shock that you have to use the screw on type hand pump,where the valve is located beside the left saddle bag?IF so I was told I couldn't put more than 20 pounds in that.Thanks for any help,you guys are giving me a good education.
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Re: SEEG Air Pressure in Air Shocks.
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2005, 11:47:36 AM »

Yes, that is the them, the rear air-shocks and it is filled by using the screw on hand pump.
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Re: SEEG Air Pressure in Air Shocks.
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2005, 12:07:56 PM »

No wonder 15 pounds was bottoming out so bad,if it quits raining on the east coast I'll pump some more in.Thanks
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Re: SEEG Air Pressure in Air Shocks.
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2005, 12:09:43 PM »

50 #'s ?? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]   Its a stiff ride at 35 #'s.  [smiley=nervous.gif]  Besides I thought 440's were the way to go no matter what the air presure.  [smiley=confused5.gif]
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Re: SEEG Air Pressure in Air Shocks.
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2005, 12:28:15 PM »

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50 #'s ?? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]   Its a stiff ride at 35 #'s.  [smiley=nervous.gif]  Besides I thought 440's were the way to go no matter what the air presure.  [smiley=confused5.gif]
ride safe  [smiley=beerchug.gif]



Monorat, we're talking about the stock air shocks (most have switched over to the 440's).  And while some of these guys are petite at 225 (me) or better, then have a passenger whose holdin her own, King tour pack loaded, trying to hang with the big dogs in the twisties (where you live).......you want to have it pumped up there.  

Not saying that I'd go up to 50 psi, they're just saying that that is the max on our shocks and not the 35 that's printed in our manuels and what the other Electra Glide models use.  I do keep mine at 35 even riding solo, when riding with Andy and some of the others, in the mountains.

But the 440's were ordered about ten days or two weeks ago .......not seen em yet, thow.  I'll have em on before we hit Yosemite.
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Re: SEEG Air Pressure in Air Shocks.
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2005, 12:28:17 PM »

Yeah, the 440s are coming down the road, hopefully soon,
but in the meantime it is good to know what to set them at.
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Re: SEEG Air Pressure in Air Shocks.
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2005, 11:40:18 AM »

Your right JCZ. Its good info and I'm going to try the 50 #'s this weekend with a passenger and tour trunk. Keep mine at 30 #'s right now solo, 35 #'s loaded. Have tried from 12 to 20 #'s solo but did not notice any difference. Hope you get your 440's before Yosemite so I can get some good feedback. Ride safe [smiley=1syellow1.gif]
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Re: SEEG Air Pressure in Air Shocks.
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2005, 03:01:28 PM »

I've been running 35 PSI in mine and it rides much better than 15 where the dealer had them at.
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Re: SEEG Air Pressure in Air Shocks.
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2005, 08:53:58 PM »

One word of caution...if you had the dealer add the detachable  tourpac to your 04 SEEG, you may not be adding air to the shocks with the Harley Pump.  The reason, the thickness of the additional metal prevents the pin from being properly depressed.  so when you pump the piston of the airpump you are only pressurizing the pump itself.  You may have to remove the valve from the mount and then pump it.

Mr. We CVO, I believe it was your bike that I demonstrated this technique while in Maggie Valley.

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Re: SEEG Air Pressure in Air Shocks.
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2005, 08:57:13 AM »

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One word of caution...if you had the dealer add the detachable  tourpac to your 04 SEEG, you may not be adding air to the shocks with the Harley Pump.  The reason, the thickness of the additional metal prevents the pin from being properly depressed.  so when you pump the piston of the airpump you are only pressurizing the pump itself.  You may have to remove the valve from the mount and then pump it.

Mr. We CVO, I believe it was your bike that I demonstrated this technique while in Maggie Valley.

One Guarranteed Fix (used by me)....440 Progressives!

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I had this problem with my 2005 SEEG when I picked it up (wonder how the dealer set the air pressure?) - the Harley pump as well as a regular air chuck and two different gauges would not depress the valve core pin before bottoming on the mounting nut.  I fixed mine by replacing the valve core and not overtightening it like Harley did, and then reduced the thickness of the mounting nut slightly on the ol' grinder.  Now it works fine.  I also drilled a new hole higher on the mounting bracket so that I could access the fill valve with just the lid open on the saddlebag rather than tilting the entire bag out.
It's a real shame that these shocks are so lousy, because making one air pressure adjustment beats the heck out of releasing both bags to adjust the Progressives individually.  I'm currently living with the stock parts, but I will probably change to the Progressives this winter.

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