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[DCFIREMANN]

Mike,  at the risk of you putting me in time out, and mainly because I do not want this thread to end.

Tell me this was about $50.00?

OK I got it, there are principles involved, but for less than one nights bar tab?

I have an idea, if we can fund some other ventures, I suggest we crowd fund Mike's deductible.

We just need 10 people to pledge $5.00/each.

I am willing to be the first pledge if you all tell me this thread will live on.

I will call it "Save the Dawg" campaign

1. Jeff


Jeff that is a good one. Yes it is just about the principal. It broke under the warranty and it was not the first time I had the problem. It's crazy what the Motor Company is doing to itself. We are now weeks away form the 16's hitting the floor and most dealers have a lot of 15's still I stock. BTW I saw a large amount of Indian's at Sturgis this year. Way more then ever before!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[Road Dad]

Fact is that if you want a great bike, quality, handling, performance it's not going to be American. It will be Japanese or German.

So if you are not happy with the HD buy another brand. I got several other brands but I keep the HD around because I like it for what it is. Probably always will have one  around.

[Keats]

Dawg

I am glad your trip went well. You covered a lot of ground and did not get decimated by one of those notorious hail storms that seem to pop up.

PS. can you actually ride through a hail storm? I have never had that experience and hope to skip that chapter.

[phato1]

Dawg

I am glad your trip went well. You covered a lot of ground and did not get decimated by one of those notorious hail storms that seem to pop up.

PS. can you actually ride through a hail storm? I have never had that experience and hope to skip that chapter.

IMHO if it starts to hail....find cover quick that stuff is nasty...only happened to me once, but that was enough.

[sadunbar]

Dawg

I am glad your trip went well. You covered a lot of ground and did not get decimated by one of those notorious hail storms that seem to pop up.

PS. can you actually ride through a hail storm? I have never had that experience and hope to skip that chapter.

My riding buddies and I got caught in a hail storm once, several years ago.  About 1" variety of hail.  Hurt like hell.  We were between Keystone and Rapid City...  We were getting pelted bad.  So we stopped along the side of the road (with no cover) and stood there and got pelted bad for a couple of minutes.   We then decided that if we were going to get hailed on, we may as well be hailed on while moving (maybe we could ride out of it?).  Well, we didn't ride out of it.  We got hailed on until we hit the outskirts of Rapid City - a good half an hour.  One hand on the handlebars and one hand covering my head.  There is a car wash on the left when just entering the city.  We made a beeline for it, and waited out the storm inside. 

*Note to self...  It's really really really slippery when riding into a car wash!  None of us dropped it, but we all had a "moment". 

[DCFIREMANN]

Dawg

I am glad your trip went well. You covered a lot of ground and did not get decimated by one of those notorious hail storms that seem to pop up.

PS. can you actually ride through a hail storm? I have never had that experience and hope to skip that chapter.


Keats I did get caught on The Big horn Passage. Temps went from 70 to 31 degrees like right now. It had 60 mph winds and snow sleet hail and freezing fog. It happened so fast we had now where to go for cover. It was brutal. I had two bikes behind me following through the passage. Got down to lower altitude and everything quit. I never want to go through that again!!! The new Bike ran great through out the entire trip. I was worried because of the ECM problems. They did do a full tune on the bike before I picked it up. I am more then happy with the numbers. I need to post the sheet on the twin cam forums.

But I still need to go check on Sapphire and see what is going on with the bike. Warranty or not it needs to be repaired and repaired right so I can get it sold!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[DCFIREMANN]

Got back from Sturgis and went to check on the Sapphire. Well she was sitting back in the warehouse and not on the showroom floor. No service had been done so I came back with the trailer and brought her back home. I will do the repairs myself and put her up for sale. What a sorry place to be called a Harley Davidson Dealership!!!!!

So Keats it's time to get that fund started!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[MrSurly]

I'm curious, did they offer any defense or explanation?
It is sad the way the dealers treat us sometimes.
We used to think that having been a loyal customer over the years would earn us some respect or at least empathy.
I guess those days are gone, now.(if they ever really existed)
Sounds like you took the right corrective measures.


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[DCFIREMANN]

I'm curious, did they offer any defense or explanation?
It is sad the way the dealers treat us sometimes.
We used to think that having been a loyal customer over the years would earn us some respect or at least empathy.
I guess those days are gone, now.(if they ever really existed)
Sounds like you took the right corrective measures.


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They didn't even apologize to me. It's OK. I'm just moving on and doing the repairs myself, then I will just try to sell it myself. Sad part about the story is I know the owner very well. He has been out of town and knows nothing about this incident. The Service Writer should have followed up and got the bike repaired, but I should have stayed on his ass till it was finished. Oh well.

No matter how old we are it seems like we are always learning.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[davidw221]

My riding buddies and I got caught in a hail storm once, several years ago.  About 1" variety of hail.  Hurt like hell.  We were between Keystone and Rapid City...  We were getting pelted bad.  So we stopped along the side of the road (with no cover) and stood there and got pelted bad for a couple of minutes.   We then decided that if we were going to get hailed on, we may as well be hailed on while moving (maybe we could ride out of it?).  Well, we didn't ride out of it.  We got hailed on until we hit the outskirts of Rapid City - a good half an hour.  One hand on the handlebars and one hand covering my head.  There is a car wash on the left when just entering the city.  We made a beeline for it, and waited out the storm inside. 

*Note to self...  It's really really really slippery when riding into a car wash!  None of us dropped it, but we all had a "moment".

, Wow I was running from a serious thunderstom in the same area a couple of years ago, several bikers had their bikes damaged due to the large hail at Mount Rushmore, I ducked into a gas station with a canopy.

[DCFIREMANN]

, Wow I was running from a serious thunderstom in the same area a couple of years ago, several bikers had their bikes damaged due to the large hail at Mount Rushmore, I ducked into a gas station with a canopy.

Smart move. Our problem, we had no where to hide!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[FLSTFI Dave]

, Wow I was running from a serious thunderstom in the same area a couple of years ago, several bikers had their bikes damaged due to the large hail at Mount Rushmore, I ducked into a gas station with a canopy.

My wife and I had our bikes caught in a Hail Storm while out for the Sturgis rally this year.  Parked at the hotel in Belle Fourche Saturday night about 9 pm.  Her 15 Road Glide Special with a 4500 dollar custom paint job was damaged as was my 15 SERGU. No cover any were near, and the wind was blowing it sideways.

[Rooster]

Good luck Dawg.  In comment to your not trusting these new bikes:

Discussing the rumored '16 Road Glide Ultra vs. the CVO RG this weekend and one of "my crew" of riding buddies absolutely refuses to even consider a CVO because of all the problems EVERYONE we know whose bought one has had.  Like breakdown stranded on a trip problems.  And many of them are repeated.  As in not fixed or the fixed part breaks like the original.  I'm sure many have bought trouble free CVOs.  But the people we know personally who own them have ALL had major issues.  5 owners, 4 of which are owners of new (2014 - 2015) models.

I've all but decided to never buy another CVO myself.

I have an '08 CUSE3.  Its been reliable but still has had major engine work (cams, lifter, etc at 40k) repairs, the major recall for leakage issues that we experienced back then, 4 radios (about to be 5), throttle issue, and of course the compensator.  Now with almost 90k on it, which is more likely to make it across the country when my kid gets stationed out west?  A 10 year old 100k bike or a brand new bike from a QC department run by squirrels who couldn't find a nut in a planters peanut factory.   

Fugly or not... You have to start thinking about Polaris as a better company if you care about mechanical design, reliability and Quality Control.  The Indian's might not be everyone's cup of tea, but the victory cross roads is not a bad looking bike and I haven't heard much negative about them.

Donny Pederson had an interesting mechanical engineering perspective piece in AIM last month.  Can't find much in that article to make me feel good about the MoCo... And he's a Harley guy!

PS.  For the Harley sycophants out there... let me save you the reply.  Peanuts are a legume.  Not a nut.  So it may be difficult for a squirrel to find a nut in a peanut factory.  Which is exactly the kind of nit picking the Harley sycophants seem to love to do these days while making excuses for a failed product that we all loved at one point in our lives.

Have a friend that traded his 07 HD with tons of problems for a Victory Cross Country put 120k miles only replaced a belt for a stone and only took 30minutes to replace. Now he has a new Indian and loves it.

[DCFIREMANN]

Have a friend that traded his 07 HD with tons of problems for a Victory Cross Country put 120k miles only replaced a belt for a stone and only took 30minutes to replace. Now he has a new Indian and loves it.

The Motor Company better start doing a better job of engineering and building Motorcycles. If they keep this chit up they may very well be a thing of the past!!! The people at the top are so out of touch with the customer now. They need all new blood.

Be Safe

THE DAWG