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110 with the woods tw7h
« on: September 16, 2018, 02:12:58 PM »

Am collecting parts for a cam swap on my softail convertible.
Woods tw7h, use a .030 head gasket, deck the heads .020. 
Plan on using v&h big shot staggered pipes and power vision.
Thoughts from the experts? Am I moving in the right direction.  I want more midrange and up than the 255's provide.
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2018, 05:02:26 PM »

One of the worst pipes to use. Will want to get up in the midrange then die due to the poor pipe. Consider a D&D Billet Cat.
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2018, 05:57:21 PM »

I'm not set on those pipes just like the looks of the 2 into 2.
The d&d fatcat is also on my list.
Just need something low enough to clear the saddlebags.
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2018, 07:08:10 PM »

One of the worst pipes to use. Will want to get up in the midrange then die due to the poor pipe. Consider a D&D Billet Cat.

Truer words were never spoken.

Use a D&D Borezilla if performance is the priority. (which it should be). FatCat's are good but just a tad small
for a 110, although it would work.
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2018, 08:19:22 AM »

I have an RB racing LSR header on mine,nice fit,finish and performance
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2018, 02:53:06 PM »

Does anyone use Thunder Headers any more?  I always liked the sound of it on my Fatboy and performance did not seem bad either.
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2018, 04:32:06 PM »

Get the D&D, you won't be disappointed.
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2018, 04:39:45 PM »

Yea  that looks like the pipe I'll be getting. So from what I've been reading those cams like to be run at at least 10 to 1.
And will I get there by taking .030 off the heads and a .030 gasket?
This upgrade will hopefully get me by we get our house bought then it will be time for the 117 ....
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2018, 09:35:26 PM »

That is guess work as far as compression.
Consider actual fluid measurement and measuring how far the pistons are in the hole. Then you know where you are really at.
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2018, 09:46:28 PM »

Most definitely..   I will be dropping the heads off at cycle Rama and letting Wes deck them.  And measure the chambers for me... 
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2018, 09:49:06 PM »

Perfect, Wes is a good guy
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2018, 10:27:28 PM »

Yea  that looks like the pipe I'll be getting. So from what I've been reading those cams like to be run at at least 10 to 1.
And will I get there by taking .030 off the heads and a .030 gasket?
This upgrade will hopefully get me by we get our house bought then it will be time for the 117 ....

Get the Borezilla since you're going bigger later on... fyi
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2018, 10:36:13 AM »

Most definitely..   I will be dropping the heads off at cycle Rama and letting Wes deck them.  And measure the chambers for me...

You'll be in good hands there. (I'd try to get them at least to 10.4) Wes will give you advice though. Let us know
what he says!
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2018, 01:30:10 PM »

I'm using a Fat Cat (full exhaust system) and the TW7H cams, and could not be happier.

just my 2 cents

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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2018, 01:54:28 PM »

I'm using a Fat Cat (full exhaust system) and the TW7H cams, and could not be happier.
just my 2 cents

Paul
Did you raise the compression?
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2018, 02:11:14 PM »

Nope. I must admit I'm a bit of a newb, and had the shop do it and went with their recommendations. I was doing lifters and last minute decided to do pipes and cams. Fueling lifters, Zippers tensioners, Woods cams, and D&D exhaust. 105ish HP, and 117ish TQ. I'm happy ....... for now. I'd like to get into the 120/130 numbers next go around.

Cheers from Canadia

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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2018, 02:29:53 PM »

Good deal.   The stock 110 feels like riding a tractor around.
I miss my old night train with 204's. 
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2018, 04:22:13 PM »

Good deal.   The stock 110 feels like riding a tractor around.
I miss my old night train with 204's.

You have Wood cams and a D&D on there right?

Get the heads worked on and that HP will come right up.
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2018, 06:19:19 PM »

You have Wood cams and a D&D on there right?

Get the heads worked on and that HP will come right up.
Haven't done the swap yet.  Still all stock.
I have everything but the tuner, gonna schedule the headwork and dyno for the middle of december. 
Thanks for all the info.  Bunch of talented techs on here..
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2018, 09:18:29 PM »

Contact MCE Performance for your head work best in the biz.  IMHOP
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2018, 08:57:03 PM »

Well,   have a change of plans.   After talking to Wes we decided to do a piston change and go with his cnc head package. Along with a set of his 595 cams.
 Should be a ton of fun in this softail..
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2018, 07:06:52 PM »

Dropped off heads and cylinders at cycle rama today, Wes should have em done in a few weeks and will build and tune mid december.

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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2018, 08:30:03 AM »

Well,   have a change of plans.   After talking to Wes we decided to do a piston change and go with his cnc head package. Along with a set of his 595 cams.
 Should be a ton of fun in this softail..

Good choice.
Major compression changes should be done with piston dome whenever possible.
Cutting the heads should only be done for fine tuning the C/R.

JMO
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2018, 09:06:28 AM »

How far horsepower wise would I be able to push the stock 50mm tb?
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2018, 10:58:30 AM »

How far horsepower wise would I be able to push the stock 50mm tb?

I would use a 58, no less than a 55 if you're wanting 130HP
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2018, 02:49:21 PM »

I would use a 58, no less than a 55 if you're wanting 130HP
I'd be happy with 115 -120  for now.   Later down the road I'm gonna do a full build 117". 
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2018, 03:53:24 AM »

Following...have been interested in the CR 595 cam, just finishes harder than I'm looking for but still pulls harder to the left than some smaller cams. Would love to see one in a 117... I also have a TW-7 sitting here waiting for install  :confused5:
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2018, 07:17:04 AM »

I'd be happy with 115 -120  for now.   Later down the road I'm gonna do a full build 117".


ide go 113" with a 58mm t body now,why do it twice? going 103" is a simple bore and done right,you`ll get your 125-130 and not need to go 117"

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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2018, 02:23:48 PM »

I've gotten 130/130 out of 103s converted to 110, many times. 127-129 squared is not uncommon
with less than stellar pipes too.
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2018, 09:25:05 PM »

Had the bike tuned today at Cycle Rama, these are std correction numbers.
Totally changed the bike, will light up the rear tire pretty quick. 
Wont let me upload a pic of the sheet.
It did 121 at 5600 and 128 at 4200.
Starts at 110 torque at 2500 then hits hard at 4000. Lines cross at 120.
Am pleased as hell. 
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2018, 06:36:22 PM »

Would love to see the sheet on that...what's the final list of specs?
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2018, 06:49:00 PM »

Would love to see the sheet on that...what's the final list of specs?

have tried posting the sheet but file is too big.
build specs are
110" .010 over dome pistons.    10.7 to 1 static, blows about 205 cold cranking pressure
cycle rama ported se 110 heads , stock valve sizes.flowed 310 cfm on the intake.. decked to 91cc's
cr 595 cams
stock 50 mm tb., stock ventilator ac.
basanni pro street exhaust


been raining since last night so havn't got a chance to ride much
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2018, 07:07:11 PM »

here it is


 I didnt want to go crazy with cost's thats why the mild headwork, and really didnt want to push the stock bottom end. probably leaving at least 5-10 hp with the stock tb and exhaust.
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2018, 02:04:53 PM »

 :2vrolijk_21: :coolblue: Leaving some with the TB/INJ and EXH for sure...
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Re: 110 with the woods tw7h
« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2019, 09:27:35 AM »

I have an RB racing LSR header on mine,nice fit,finish and performance

I loved mine for over 40k miles on a 103!
ALWAYS outperformed expectations regardless of cam!

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