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rumored 120 horse indian motor's likely impact on CVO mkt
« on: April 18, 2019, 12:08:45 AM »

just thinking about the rumored 120 hp Indian motor that's speculated to be coming in a new fixed fairing model.

I'm not familiar w/the hp output of the M8117 but thinking that 120 would still be a sizable jump up.

...... and wondering how that would impact the CVO market.
i'm quite happy w/the SERGU i have, so it won't impact me
..... but others might be tempted by 120hp outta the box

besides, i think the twin cam looks way better than that water jacket.




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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2019, 07:07:07 AM »

Will have a significant impact. It's not just a new 120hp motor, it's the whole package. A better frame and suspension with mono rear shock for starters.

Motorcycles are a very personal thing. Some put style above everything else and Harley leads for those buyers in my opinion. Harley leads with dealer accessibility, customization options as well. The largest motorcycle social group, HOG.

Others place higher degrees of value on performance, handling, features, safety, comfort, quality and value.

While i don't personally own or desire a Indian motorcycle, I'm happy to see a new model that's more than fancy paint and chrome. This new Indian should appeal to buyers that want an American built bike with traditional V-twin style along with performance, handling and comfort.

Harley will have no choice but to compete and that's a very good thing. Current CVO electra glides will be impacted the most when Harley introduces a new bike that takes this new Indian on. My bet is that this happens sooner than later.



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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2019, 07:08:43 AM »

It is an interesting bike and motor coming from Indian.  I look forward to seeing, hearing and maybe riding it at some point but purchasing?  Not sure.  However, I don't ever say never anymore...but I don't see a new bike in my near or far future from any manufacturer.
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Re: rumored 120 horse indian motor's likely impact on CVO mkt
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2019, 07:28:43 AM »

For sure would consider...
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Re: rumored 120 horse indian motor's likely impact on CVO mkt
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2019, 07:40:05 AM »

Well I already made the jump over to Indian. I was tempted to wait for the water cooled bike but I did not want to wait another 2 years. I say 2 years because I try not to buy engines in the same year they are released. I put a deposit on the red bike in this picture yesterday. I am having them add their PowerBand Audio system and their 116 CI Big Bore Kit along with every chrome bit they have available for it. They did not have a Chieftain Elite Model this year so I am adding all of the stuff that an Elite would have plus the Big Bore Kit and a few other things. Came out to 38,400 including labor and before trade and taxes. A guy from Texas is going to meet me at the Indian Dealership to buy my 2013 CVO Road King on a courtesy trade. If that falls through I will just trade the Road King.

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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2019, 08:46:09 AM »

Roy, that is a beautiful color.  There's one at the K'ville Indian store that color.  Looks great in the sunshine, too.  That 116 kit really puts life in an already potent power plant...good deal for you, sir.

You do know that...

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Re: rumored 120 horse indian motor's likely impact on CVO mkt
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2019, 08:53:59 AM »

Roy, That is a very nice looking bike !! Good Luck With the New Ride.
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Re: rumored 120 horse indian motor's likely impact on CVO mkt
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2019, 05:27:20 PM »

To me it would have no effect. I would not buy another brand, ever. I like my HD products.
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Re: rumored 120 horse indian motor's likely impact on CVO mkt
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2019, 09:12:36 PM »

To me it would have no effect. I would not buy another brand, ever. I like my HD products.


I understand your point but hopefully competition will effect all of us or at least those who purchase a new bike in the future. Competition is the only thing that pushes manufacturers to improve their products. If not for competition we would still be driving cars that rust out in eight years and need a new motors at 80,000 miles.
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2019, 09:50:42 PM »

If the bike pictured makes it to production, it has inverted forks, radial disc brakes, and 120 hp.  You know IM will offer stage 2 cams, hi flow A/C, maybe a big bore kit.  Throw in better exhaust, a dyno tune, what would be talking then...140 hp? 
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Re: rumored 120 horse indian motor's likely impact on CVO mkt
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2019, 10:48:00 PM »

Will be interesting to see what the actual numbers of this Indian are.  Also what does HD have to counter this, if anything?
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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2019, 11:23:36 PM »

Just saw this pop up on the IM site:
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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2019, 12:50:16 AM »

Will be interesting to see what the actual numbers of this Indian are.  Also what does HD have to counter this, if anything?
Harley has no choice but to compete. They must have a big touring platform upgrade ready to go.

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Re: rumored 120 horse indian motor's likely impact on CVO mkt
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2019, 08:12:48 AM »

Harley has no choice but to compete. They must have a big touring platform upgrade ready to go.

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HD's focus has been on electric & the smaller engine bikes, several new entries.  Likely they have a bigger touring engine in the works, am wondering if they do then when will it be introduced?  The 117 is not that old.
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Re: rumored 120 horse indian motor's likely impact on CVO mkt
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2019, 08:23:19 AM »

Just saw this pop up on the IM site:

Those bars have to go. No way could I ride something like that. My shoulder blades would be on fire in 15 miles.
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