Topic: Shifter Shaft Seal Leak (Read 13726 times)

REGGAB · « **on:** September 09, 2009, 10:00:32 PM »

This time it's on the Purple Bike, and technically, it isn't a leak....yet. Isn't dripping anywhere. Just gets really grimy under there after riding for awhile. Actually it has been seeping for quite awhile, better than 2000 miles. I was thinking (hoping) this past weekend's trip to visit Ken and Cheri would do it in, and it would finally start dripping, which would undoubtedly win approval from the House Finance Committee to tear down, replace the seal, along with other seals and gaskets with Cometics, and since it would be torn down that far, may as well go ahead and replace the stock 5 speed with a Baker OD6. The Finance Committee is learned in these processes and will not fund component replacements unless the cause significantly warrants such action and replacement procedures involve labor which would have to be repeated once the new transmission becomes necessary.....despite my pleas.

It's only a matter of time.

naitram · « **Reply #1 on:** September 10, 2009, 10:40:21 AM »

you could get over aggressive cleaning around the offending seal....

erniezap · « **Reply #2 on:** September 10, 2009, 11:49:02 AM »

Talk to Jim (HD-Dude). Both my bikes had that same seepage. We replaced the HD seal with Cometics and the problem has not occurred again.

Boatman · « **Reply #3 on:** September 10, 2009, 11:57:42 AM »

Fellows, Henry wants a 6 speed. Renea said no thus far. I would be pouring some fluid under the green melon and once she sees the fluid on their clean garage floor, she will give the ok.. Just sayin'..

hogasm · « **Reply #4 on:** September 10, 2009, 01:34:02 PM »

Quote from: Boatman on September 10, 2009, 11:57:42 AM

Fellows, Henry wants a 6 speed. Renea said no thus far. I would be pouring some fluid under the green melon and once she sees the fluid on their clean garage floor, she will give the ok.. Just sayin'..

Bob I think the leak is in the Purple King

Henry could just send me the 2.5G and then he wouldn't need a 6 speed

HogBreath · « **Reply #5 on:** September 10, 2009, 03:39:02 PM »

I could make it leak for you EASILY. Why didn't yo say something last weekend?

Hoist! · « **Reply #6 on:** September 10, 2009, 05:34:20 PM »

You want it to leak Henry! Bring it to MV and lemme ridfe it! I just can't guarantee that it will be your ONLY leak!!!

Hoist!

spydglide · « **Reply #7 on:** September 10, 2009, 06:39:45 PM »

Quote from: Hoist! on September 10, 2009, 05:34:20 PM

You want it to leak Henry! Bring it to MV and lemme ridfe it! I just can't guarantee that it will be your ONLY leak!!!

Hoist!

Hard on 'Em.

har! spyder

Boatman · « **Reply #8 on:** September 10, 2009, 07:22:26 PM »

Quote from: hogasm on September 10, 2009, 01:34:02 PM

Bob I think the leak is in the Purple King

Henry could just send me the 2.5G and then he wouldn't need a 6 speed

You're right, I need to read better I guess. Thanks for the heads up.

hogasm · « **Reply #9 on:** September 10, 2009, 07:47:56 PM »

Quote from: Boatman on September 10, 2009, 07:22:26 PM

You're right, I need to read better I guess. Thanks for the heads up.

Thats cool

Roomer has it that the check is in the mail

REGGAB · « **Reply #10 on:** September 10, 2009, 09:56:13 PM »

Thanks guys. I've given fleeting thought to such covert actions as using a small 90 degree scratch awl to help speed the leaking process, but I'm afraid my integrity would get in the way. Besides, Renea sees right through my bullchit anyway. Sure do wish it would start leaking.......and the sooner, the better. I've become quite accustomed to the Baker OD6 in the Green Bike. That is one sweet transmission. I just hope she lets me switch the Purple Bike's primary gearing to 3.37 like the Green Bike. The added torque is awesome. 80mph at 3000rpm in sixth gear is the perfect operating condition for me. Really like that combination.

But for now.....I'll just ride it.....and keep trying to hit that sixth gear.......that just isn't there.

SBB · « **Reply #11 on:** September 10, 2009, 10:14:11 PM »

Quote from: HML on September 10, 2009, 09:56:13 PM

80mph at 3000rpm in sixth gear is the perfect operating condition for me. Really like that combination.

But for now.....I'll just ride it.....and keep trying to hit that sixth gear.......that just isn't there.

80 @ 3000rpm is what my 09 SEUC does.
It's a real sweet spot.

Give it time Henry.
It will come when it's time.
You have about as much patience as me, and you want it now.
It will come.

SBB

REGGAB · « **Reply #12 on:** September 10, 2009, 11:03:47 PM »

Quote from: SBB on September 10, 2009, 10:14:11 PM

Give it time Henry.
It will come when it's time.
You have about as much patience as me, and you want it now.
It will come.

SBB

That's true, Chip. Maybe a few heat cycles in cold weather will wear it down. No doubt the seal is eight years old since the bike is an August 2001 build. Just under 17K miles. It'll bust this winter when Rod is super busy with other stuff. It'll get done tho'.

HogBreath · « **Reply #13 on:** September 11, 2009, 03:07:48 PM »

If a guy can justify a new transmission because of a $10 oil seal, why couldn't I justify a new engine because of fouled plugs?

REGGAB · « **Reply #14 on:** September 11, 2009, 03:12:32 PM »

Quote from: HogBreath on September 11, 2009, 03:07:48 PM

If a guy can justify a new transmission because of a $10 oil seal, why couldn't I justify a new engine because of fouled plugs?

Too easy!

Labor $.

Fired00d · « **Reply #15 on:** September 11, 2009, 03:15:15 PM »

Quote from: HogBreath on September 11, 2009, 03:07:48 PM

If a guy can justify a new transmission because of a $10 oil seal, why couldn't I justify a new engine because of fouled plugs?

As long as you can get it for $750 I don't see you having a problem.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

REGGAB · « **Reply #16 on:** September 11, 2009, 03:26:38 PM »

Quote from: Fired00d on September 11, 2009, 03:15:15 PM

As long as you can get it for $750 I don't see you having a problem.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

I checked with Cheri on that, Gary, and that $750 limit applies to chrome only. Ken has no monetary limitation on maintenance and repair items.

Fired00d · « **Reply #17 on:** September 11, 2009, 03:36:22 PM »

Quote from: HML on September 11, 2009, 03:26:38 PM

I checked with Cheri on that, Gary, and that $750 limit applies to chrome only. Ken has no monetary limitation on maintenance and repair items.

Ahhhhh... He didn't tell me that... and all this time I thought it applied to everything. Thanks for setting me straight.

Now when I spend I can blame it on Ken.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

REGGAB · « **Reply #18 on:** September 11, 2009, 04:40:59 PM »

Quote from: Fired00d on September 11, 2009, 03:36:22 PM

Ahhhhh... He didn't tell me that... and all this time I thought it applied to everything. Thanks for setting me straight. Now when I spend I can blame it on Ken.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

I tried that in an attempt to justify the acquisition of.....you know......a Baker OD6 with 3.37 primary gearing........."Well Ken just put a D&D Boss, Wood's Air Cleaner and Air Filter, and a PC-V on the Red Bike and a garage door opener on the Yellow Bike, and........and.......and........and.......I have this impending leak, which might sprout when I'm far away from home, leaving me stranded.........."

No joy.

I need a bonafide shifter shaft leak in the garage, making a mess, or it ain't happening.

spydglide · « **Reply #19 on:** September 11, 2009, 06:22:32 PM »

Quote from: HML on September 11, 2009, 04:40:59 PM

I tried that in an attempt to justify the acquisition of.....you know......a Baker OD6 with 3.37 primary gearing........."Well Ken just put a D&D Boss, Wood's Air Cleaner and Air Filter, and a PC-V on the Red Bike and a garage door opener on the Yellow Bike, and........and.......and........and.......I have this impending leak, which might sprout when I'm far away from home, leaving me stranded.........."

No joy.

I need a bonafide shifter shaft leak in the garage, making a mess, or it ain't happening.

Patience, GrassHopper, Patience.

har! spyder

REGGAB · « **Reply #20 on:** September 11, 2009, 07:18:48 PM »

Quote from: spydglide on September 11, 2009, 06:22:32 PM

Patience, GrassHopper, Patience. har! spyder

I know Spydy. That is but one area of many in which I need much work. We're talkin' belt sander here.

Renea does a great job of keeping my "wants" in cheque, and balances them quite well with my "needs." Nothing to do but get over it, move on...........and pray for a leak.

MIKEYTEE · « **Reply #21 on:** September 12, 2009, 04:59:34 PM »

Henry,
May the leak gods smile on your Purple Bike and stay the hell away from my area. I don't need a new tranny of any leaks.

Mike

spydglide · « **Reply #22 on:** September 12, 2009, 06:31:40 PM »

Quote from: MIKEYTEE on September 12, 2009, 04:59:34 PM

Henry,
May the leak gods smile on your Purple Bike and stay the hell away from my area. I don't need a new tranny of any leaks.
Mike

Exactly! It's almost like bad juju just reading this thread ..... Henry trying to conjur up a tranny shaft leak.

spyder

hard10 · « **Reply #23 on:** September 12, 2009, 06:54:11 PM »

Quote from: spydglide on September 12, 2009, 06:31:40 PM

Exactly! It's almost like bad juju just reading this thread ..... Henry trying to conjur up a tranny shaft leak. spyder

NO BAD MOJO!!! We have a trip coming in a few weeks, and I don't need no stinking bad vibes!

REGGAB · « **Reply #24 on:** September 12, 2009, 09:44:44 PM »

I know. It is sorta.....sick.....ain't it?

Just a means to an end.

Spent about 150 miles on the Green Bike today, and that Baker OD6 coupled with the 3.37 primary gearing is so sweet. I just know when I head to work on the Purple Bike Monday morning, I'm gonna instinctively try to hit a non-existent sixth gear.

Anyway, may all the bad juju, mojo, luck, fortune, and any and all other forms of evil brouhaha steer clear of each and every one of you......and me too, for that matter....except for the Purple Bike's shifter shaft seal.

hard10 · « **Reply #25 on:** September 12, 2009, 10:09:02 PM »

Quote from: HML on September 12, 2009, 09:44:44 PM

... I'm gonna instinctively try to hit a non-existent sixth gear...

I know exactly how you feel. When I get on my Deuce, I'm always looking for 6th.

DESERTBEAR54 · « **Reply #26 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:38:04 PM »

What is the P/N of the Cometics Seal?? I had mine changed under warranty but would rather of had the cometics seal put in.

hd-dude · « **Reply #27 on:** October 23, 2009, 05:06:49 PM »

Quote from: DESERTBEAR54 on October 23, 2009, 03:38:04 PM

What is the P/N of the Cometics Seal?? I had mine changed under warranty but would rather of had the cometics seal put in.

Cometic #'s:
OS039 for the Primary Main Shaft Seal
OS043 for the Starter Drive Shaft Seal
OS041 for the Shifter Shaft Seal

Drag Specialties part number for the Cometic's are:

0935-0162 for the Primary Main Shaft Seal
0935-0163 for the Starter Drive Shaft Seal
0935-0201 for the Shifter Shaft Seal

Hoist! · « **Reply #28 on:** October 23, 2009, 05:58:18 PM »

Quote from: hd-dude on October 23, 2009, 05:06:49 PM

Cometic #'s:
OS039 for the Primary Main Shaft Seal
OS043 for the Starter Drive Shaft Seal
OS041 for the Shifter Shaft Seal

Drag Specialties part number for the Cometic's are:

0935-0162 for the Primary Main Shaft Seal
0935-0163 for the Starter Drive Shaft Seal
0935-0201 for the Shifter Shaft Seal

Jim, I'm assuming these are for pre '06 Dyna and all '07+up BT's. If that's correct, or if any of them are different, do you have P/N's for the newer models? Thanks.

Hoist!

Twolanerider · « **Reply #29 on:** October 23, 2009, 07:32:05 PM »

Quote from: Hoist! on October 23, 2009, 05:58:18 PM

Jim, I'm assuming these are for pre '06 Dyna and all '07+up BT's. If that's correct, or if any of them are different, do you have P/N's for the newer models? Thanks.

Hoist!

Check this link Howie: http://www.cometic.com/harleydavidson.aspx

It's Cometic look up. Can even look up by OE number cross reference.

hd-dude · « **Reply #30 on:** October 23, 2009, 07:34:26 PM »

Quote from: Hoist! on October 23, 2009, 05:58:18 PM

Jim, I'm assuming these are for pre '06 Dyna and all '07+up BT's. If that's correct, or if any of them are different, do you have P/N's for the newer models? Thanks.

Hoist!

Correct Howie, those are pre-07 #'s but the primary main shaft and the shift shaft seal are the same. The starter shaft isn't there on the 07+

Hoist! · « **Reply #31 on:** October 24, 2009, 08:34:24 AM »

Good stuff Jim and Don! Thanks!

Hoist!

Ed Ramberger - One_Screamin_Eagle · « **Reply #32 on:** December 07, 2009, 07:48:56 PM »

Quote from: HML on September 09, 2009, 10:00:32 PM

This time it's on the Purple Bike, and technically, it isn't a leak....yet. Isn't dripping anywhere. Just gets really grimy under there after riding for awhile. Actually it has been seeping for quite awhile, better than 2000 miles. I was thinking (hoping) this past weekend's trip to visit Ken and Cheri would do it in, and it would finally start dripping, which would undoubtedly win approval from the House Finance Committee to tear down, replace the seal, along with other seals and gaskets with Cometics, and since it would be torn down that far, may as well go ahead and replace the stock 5 speed with a Baker OD6. The Finance Committee is learned in these processes and will not fund component replacements unless the cause significantly warrants such action and replacement procedures involve labor which would have to be repeated once the new transmission becomes necessary.....despite my pleas.

It's only a matter of time.

You sure it's not actually coming from the race on the trans shaft (one that goes through the inner primary)walking inward toward the MDG...

HDDOCFL · « **Reply #33 on:** January 02, 2010, 10:32:57 AM »

I have been using SKF 4260 seals with great success, Doc

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