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[WildWes72]

Ok gentlemen and after reading and gathering information on the site, I have decided to run an oil cooler on my bike. Please give feedback on your thoughts. And what oil brands are you guys using? There are several things I took in consideration for hot running engines and or prevention.

1. Oil Temperatures, oil cooler not necessary but help keep temps down.
2. Good flow, air in and out, stage 1.
3. Good tune, AFR and timing.
4. Run good fuel, higher octane.
5. Good oil such as Amsoil and or equivalent.

So what you guy's think? 

[cambo]

I added the HD premium oil cooler to my bike, though I believe 3rd party options might be better. My bike runs noticeably cooler even on hottest days of summer. Even beyond the engine considerations, I am more comfortable and don't feel like I'm riding on a pizza oven. I also have the cooling fans, which I have turned off since October as I just don't see the need for it.

There are a lot of folks who think oil coolers (or cooling fans) are not necessary. But, being an old Porsche air-cooled engine fan and considering Porsche the leading authority when it comes to air cooling, I followed their lead and added the oil cooler and the fans regardless.

Cam

[dlaws01]

If I were riding my BO around KAF I would have an oil cooler but here in Tennessee I wouldn't have an oil cooler installed. 

[WildWes72]

I added the HD premium oil cooler to my bike, though I believe 3rd party options might be better. My bike runs noticeably cooler even on hottest days of summer. Even beyond the engine considerations, I am more comfortable and don't feel like I'm riding on a pizza oven. I also have the cooling fans, which I have turned off since October as I just don't see the need for it.

There are a lot of folks who think oil coolers (or cooling fans) are not necessary. But, being an old Porsche air-cooled engine fan and considering Porsche the leading authority when it comes to air cooling, I followed their lead and added the oil cooler and the fans regardless.

Cam

Yeah I don't think everybody likes pepperoni. But being from El Paso It will be necessary.... I feel if I'm going to get longevity it will good upgrade....

[WildWes72]

If I were riding my BO around KAF I would have an oil cooler but here in Tennessee I wouldn't have an oil cooler installed. 

If I had a BO in KAF, I could not get any work done....

[ematicic]

I was going to go the oil cooler route but I am going to first try the JIMS cooling fan:

http://www.jpcycles.com/harley-parts/jims/engine-cooling-fans

Mine only overheats when I am stopped, stuck in traffic. Since I am stopped, the oil is not circulating anyhow. Sure the increased oil capacity from the cooler will still yield cooler temps, but over all the fan will give me a lower oil temperature while stuck in traffic. I have been looking at a bunch of the fan vendors but the JIMS looks the best to me since it is made to work with their 120 and up engines, I am quite certain, my 110 will benefit nicely.

[ChopperPilot]

I was going to go the oil cooler route but I am going to first try the JIMS cooling fan:

http://www.jpcycles.com/harley-parts/jims/engine-cooling-fans

Mine only overheats when I am stopped, stuck in traffic. Since I am stopped, the oil is not circulating anyhow. Sure the increased oil capacity from the cooler will still yield cooler temps, but over all the fan will give me a lower oil temperature while stuck in traffic. I have been looking at a bunch of the fan vendors but the JIMS looks the best to me since it is made to work with their 120 and up engines, I am quite certain, my 110 will benefit nicely.

Looks like a nice product, let us know how it works out.

[dahsen]

I was going to go the oil cooler route but I am going to first try the JIMS cooling fan:

http://www.jpcycles.com/harley-parts/jims/engine-cooling-fans

Mine only overheats when I am stopped, stuck in traffic. Since I am stopped, the oil is not circulating anyhow. Sure the increased oil capacity from the cooler will still yield cooler temps, but over all the fan will give me a lower oil temperature while stuck in traffic. I have been looking at a bunch of the fan vendors but the JIMS looks the best to me since it is made to work with their 120 and up engines, I am quite certain, my 110 will benefit nicely.

Interesting...  Problem is indeed when I get stuck in traffic jams.  No trouble when riding...

[dlaws01]

If I had a BO in KAF, I could not get any work done....

LOL !    Not to crash your thread but does that place still smell like the biggest chit hole in the world?

[dahsen]

KAF ?   

[grc]

KAF ?  

Kandahar Air Field.

Jerry

[WildWes72]

LOL !    Not to crash your thread but does that place still smell like the biggest chit hole in the world?

Yeah, you know it bad when you chit yourself turn around walk back through it and it smells good!!!!!

[WildWes72]

I was going to go the oil cooler route but I am going to first try the JIMS cooling fan:

http://www.jpcycles.com/harley-parts/jims/engine-cooling-fans

Mine only overheats when I am stopped, stuck in traffic. Since I am stopped, the oil is not circulating anyhow. Sure the increased oil capacity from the cooler will still yield cooler temps, but over all the fan will give me a lower oil temperature while stuck in traffic. I have been looking at a bunch of the fan vendors but the JIMS looks the best to me since it is made to work with their 120 and up engines, I am quite certain, my 110 will benefit nicely.

I looked at the JIMS fan and I like it. Please keep me posted on how it works for ya. Because it probably would be something worth trying. In El Paso the temps sometime reach 115 degrees. I don't want to take a chance, heat our worse enemy. 

[CVOBreak]

This may be another fan option, I like the look and should bolt right on the CVO breakout without moving the horn.
http://www.wardspartswerks.com/cooling-fans-2.html

[ChopperPilot]

This may be another fan option, I like the look and should bolt right on the CVO breakout without moving the horn.
http://www.wardspartswerks.com/cooling-fans-2.html

Good option, anyone out there use these fans?

[dahsen]

Good option, anyone out there use these fans?

Someone posted pics of these in chrome last year...  I'm trying to find the post...

[dahsen]

Found it!

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=87271.0

[cambo]

Someone posted pics of these in chrome last year...  I'm trying to find the post...

I have the wpw fans on my bike also. They automatically come on when necessary and are small enough to not cover up too much of the rest of the engine. Installation took less than 10 minues (IIRC) and did not require any changes to the rest of the bike.

[gmeikle]

I have just put one of these "Slip-on" oil filter cooler collars , works on the heatsink principle

I've put them on many bikes here in Australia and have run comparisons against Harley's own plumbed in oil cooler system and both drop the oil temp 20F

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HARLEY-OIL-COOLER-SCREAMING-EAGLE-FITS-ANY-TWINCAM-/390794022502?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5afd238e66

My recently arrived 2013 CVO Breakout was running hot compared to my 2008 CVO Springer , which had ONE OF THESE INSTALLED 15+ months ago

Best bang for the buck in oil coolers maybe ?

[Eagle Eye]

Thanks for the link Gmikle.

Doesn't this solution require the bike to be moving?  I like the additional cooling fins, but I'd see this as additional to the fans, rather than as a stand alone in hot regions. 20 dg is big!

We're planning a trip to Glacier Park this summer, so I'm looking at fans. Either oil or head. It gets pretty hot throughout the areas we'll be traveling.

Also, ematicac said something about oil not circulating when a bike is stopped and running. My understanding of the engineering of these machines the oil circulates anytime the bike is running. It better be or we'd all be in trouble in the cities. I'm sure you didn't mean it to come out that way, but it reads funny.

Thanks all for the links. This helps a lot.






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[Rooster]

Anyone using these running a Chrome Dome Eagle head? Want to make sure it will fit, looks like it but can't tell.

[WestCoastRuss]

Wonder if it will fit over a K&N filter? (KN-171C)

[gmeikle]

To Eagle Eye

Mate , these work even when the bike is stopped in traffic. The heatsink principle works at all times

Radiator type plumbed in coolers are better on the move than when stopped.

To WestCoastRuss

These work best on genuine HD filters , and I buy only black now as these cover them 90+ percent

To all the "bagger" guys , several of my mates have them on baggers here in western Australia , but some have to "mod" the slip-on coolers a wee tad to clear a factory oil cooler hose or bracket. You can't see the grind/mod once the article is pushed over the oil filter

[dahsen]

... Just wondering why HD are not selling them anymore...

The manufacturer says they still have thousands of boxes...     

[ematicic]

I added the HD premium oil cooler to my bike, though I believe 3rd party options might be better. My bike runs noticeably cooler even on hottest days of summer. Even beyond the engine considerations, I am more comfortable and don't feel like I'm riding on a pizza oven. I also have the cooling fans, which I have turned off since October as I just don't see the need for it.

There are a lot of folks who think oil coolers (or cooling fans) are not necessary. But, being an old Porsche air-cooled engine fan and considering Porsche the leading authority when it comes to air cooling, I followed their lead and added the oil cooler and the fans regardless.

Cam

Hi Again Cam,

The dealers are telling me that the center mount oil cooler that you have wont work with ABS. Where did you order your parts from because I need to get these temps under control? I also have a crash bar on the front, I would be more than happy to part with it if that is incompatible though. I avoid Dumfries like the plaque but interested in which dealer you use for parts.

Great write ups though, definitely considering the shotgun shocks. Thanks.

[cambo]

Hi Again Cam,

The dealers are telling me that the center mount oil cooler that you have wont work with ABS. Where did you order your parts from because I need to get these temps under control? I also have a crash bar on the front, I would be more than happy to part with it if that is incompatible though. I avoid Dumfries like the plaque but interested in which dealer you use for parts.

Great write ups though, definitely considering the shotgun shocks. Thanks.

Thanks! I bought the oil cooler from the local HD dealer that I am not a fan of! Customer service ain't what Harley deserves, IMO. No issues what so ever with the brake. I don't know why they would say it will not work with it. There are no hoses or anything in the way and I don't think ABS system has any connection to the engine oil. But then again I'm mechanically challenged. Anyhow, it was the first thing I attempted to do on my own (not counting getting rid of the reflectors!) and it went without a hitch. I even ordered the thermostat from WPW and had to open up the adapter and replace the stock thermostat that came with the cooler. Even with me double checking every step because of my total lack of self confidence I was done in less than 30 minutes.

Cam

[gmeikle]

camcvo's oil cooler is the same "plumbed in" system I put on my 2008 FXSTC wayback then

The slip-on coolers  ( I discovered them after this ! ) had the bike running at the same oil temperature without any of the fitting hassle at a fraction of the cost !

The Harley plumbed in kit does look purty tho' !!

[cambo]

Here's a picture of the oil cooler hoses and adapter. Again I don't see how this in anyway affects or interacts with the ABS.

Disclaimer: I know the bike is dirty. It's because I've been riding the bike whenever the weather is nice and have not had a chance to wash it yet. Waiting for the Glare stuff. So please don't judge!

Cam

[05Train]

I'm in the "if your bike didn't come with an oil cooler it doesn't need one" camp.  They idle these bikes on hot desert asphalt until they run out of gas during hot-weather testing and they don't melt down.

That said, there's certainly no harm in running a cooler - especially on a modified bike - with a thermostat.  As long as the bike still can get to operating temperature you're good to go.

I've been running a Jagg 10-row on my 'Train for the last 4 years since the build.  It keeps the temperatures down on hot days.  Necessary?  Probably not, but with what I have in the engine it's cheap insurance.

[BreakoutCVO]

Disclaimer: I know the bike is dirty. It's because I've been riding the bike whenever the weather is nice and have not had a chance to wash it yet. Waiting for the Glare stuff. So please don't judge!

Cam

Jees Cam you might want to wipe off that camera lense, it makes your bike look dirty....just sayin' 

[cambo]

Jees Cam you might want to wipe off that camera lense, it makes your bike look dirty....just sayin' 

That's it!!! It's the camera lens!   

Cam

[WildWes72]

I installed the same oil cooler as cam, didn't effect the ABS lines during install. Re-serviced the oil with AMSOIL. We will see this summer here in El Paso how well it keeps the temp down.

No wonder everybody thinks silver and black looks so good because CAM's trick photography.

[cambo]

No wonder everybody thinks silver and black looks so good because CAM's trick photography.

What trick photography?

[SBB]

What trick photography?

Looks great Cam!
The silver and black bike I mean!

 

 

SBB

[cambo]

Looks great Cam!
The silver and black bike I mean!

 

 

SBB

Thanks Chip! It's the new 'cut out the ugly rider' filter I've added to the camera! 

[Rooster]

That's funny right there.