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CVO Technical => Drive Train => Topic started by: FRITZBOB on May 21, 2021, 08:57:35 AM

Title: First gear ingagement
Post by: FRITZBOB on May 21, 2021, 08:57:35 AM
19 road glide, noisy clunk on first when cold.My 04 5 speed was a lot quieter.
Any body else have that issue?


Title: Re: First gear ingagement
Post by: GregKhougaz on May 21, 2021, 11:15:17 AM
15 RGU, 39K miles. Sometimes it clunks and sometimes it doesn't.  :nixweiss:
Title: Re: First gear ingagement
Post by: spence on May 21, 2021, 11:28:45 AM
2020 cvo limited noisy clunk, my 2016 was nice and quiet going into 1st.  I have used the stock harley fluids that came in it, Amsoil and Red Line, still makes a clunk.
Title: Re: First gear ingagement
Post by: FRITZBOB on May 21, 2021, 11:46:16 AM
I have the redline on standby.haven’t in the other holes, just want to make sure it’s doesn’t transfer
From transmission. Hopefully it doesn’t.  embarrasses me in the morning I think the whole neighborhood can hear, it sounds like it’s falling apart.
Title: Re: First gear ingagement
Post by: RivRaptor on May 21, 2021, 12:32:12 PM
Since installing the RedLine pink stuff my first gear clunk sometimes goes away completely and other times not, kind of weird, but better overall.  I would recommend it
Title: Re: First gear ingagement
Post by: Yellow09SERG on May 21, 2021, 06:39:06 PM
Total speculation on my part but seems that the clunk has more to do with the clutch drag than the tranny itself. I have went from the stock 6 speed to the Baker 7 speed and any time I clutch drag the clunk will usually be there
Title: Re: First gear ingagement
Post by: FRITZBOB on May 21, 2021, 07:21:16 PM
What is clutch drag and can I prevent the clunk?l didn’t know they made a 7 speed.
Title: Re: First gear ingagement
Post by: Yellow09SERG on May 21, 2021, 09:19:58 PM
Do you ever feel your bike having a forward pull to it while sitting in gear? That is residential friction in the clutch even though the lever is pulled in. Don't have a clue how to fix it. Yes Baker has made an aftermarket 7 speed for a few years
Title: Re: First gear ingagement
Post by: rayson56 on May 21, 2021, 09:53:14 PM
If you haven't done it yet make sure you guys flush your clutch master cylinder and lines and replace with fresh fluid. It helped on my 2011.
Title: Re: First gear ingagement
Post by: fastfreddy on May 22, 2021, 12:31:00 AM
try holding clutch in for a couple seconds before you shift into gear, mine (16 RGU) when i do this is almost silent going into gear when i do this... most of the time  :nixweiss: 
Title: Re: First gear ingagement
Post by: FRITZBOB on May 22, 2021, 05:46:40 AM
Maybe air in line? I was starting it in gear , but feel it pulled a little and decided that wasn’t a good  idea.almost 10,000 miles I’m going to change primary. Hope that helps.
Title: Re: First gear ingagement
Post by: HOGMIKE on May 22, 2021, 08:35:10 AM
19 road glide, noisy clunk on first when cold.My 04 5 speed was a lot quieter.
Any body else have that issue?

Bike cold.
Pull your derby cover, bike upright, and check your oil level. It should be at the bottom of the clutch plate.
Take out the trans dip stick and check for proper level.
If you had oil transfer from the trans to the primary (common problem with your year) get that taken care of.

If everything is set, start the bike in neutral and if you have a big clunk into low you may have to try a different primary fluid. I use the stock Harley fluid that works ok when cold and shifts pretty good when hot, but I’m using Lucas gear oil in the trans.
They all clunk some worse than others.
Why can’t Harley build a transmission like my Baker? Smooth all the way!
Hope this helps.
 :nixweiss:
Title: Re: First gear ingagement
Post by: FRITZBOB on May 22, 2021, 10:43:45 AM
My primary fluid seem to be overfilled when I was draining fluids but I forgot to check the trans level. I’m thinking this is my whole problem. Thanks all for your help.
Title: Re: First gear ingagement
Post by: Yellow09SERG on May 22, 2021, 04:46:15 PM
Bike cold.
Pull your derby cover, bike upright, and check your oil level. It should be at the bottom of the clutch plate.
Take out the trans dip stick and check for proper level.
If you had oil transfer from the trans to the primary (common problem with your year) get that taken care of.

If everything is set, start the bike in neutral and if you have a big clunk into low you may have to try a different primary fluid. I use the stock Harley fluid that works ok when cold and shifts pretty good when hot, but I’m using Lucas gear oil in the trans.
They all clunk some worse than others.
Why can’t Harley build a transmission like my Baker? Smooth all the way!
Hope this helps.
 :nixweiss:

Mike even with my Baker I still get a clunk from time to time. Mainly cold, but I also know clutch has always had a little drag in this bike. I had hoped swapping to the alto clutch and ATF would have solved it but didn't. Changed fluid and rebuild clutch slave earlier this year with little to no change. I have about decided to just agree with the stealers on this one and claim they all do that!
Title: Re: First gear ingagement
Post by: HOGMIKE on May 23, 2021, 12:20:33 AM
One other thing I noticed on a friends bike (2012) his shift linkage was way sloppy. We replaced the shift levers and tightened everything up. He uses regular Walmart motor oil in all 3 holes and says his shifter still clunks, but much better than before.
Yes, they all do that to some extent. 8)
Title: Re: First gear ingagement
Post by: havenolife on May 23, 2021, 05:47:25 AM
Start it in gear NO MORE CLUNK lol