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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2010, 12:10:37 AM »

It took more time peelin the backin off than installin the speakers! :o

One of my friends warned me about that, and the first piece came right off and I thought he was crazy.  Then the next 5 were a real pain.
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2010, 08:15:46 AM »

If I ever get to buy something for under a $100.00 for the bike I am thrilled!!
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2010, 10:10:47 AM »

I installed the foam and 3 way JM speakers last weekend and sounds great.  Biggest difference was did not have to turn the volume up as much to hear speakers. 
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2010, 12:40:00 PM »

I'm familiar with the Dynamat brand of sound deadener.  It's primary purpose is to deaden sheetmetal panels and to insulate the heat from under the car, roof and firewall.  Dynamat is a thinner more dense material, almost like a very thick tar paper that's a bit on the rubbery side.  The stuff a friend of mine used on his streetrod also had a silver foil over the top side, which could hurt garage door openers if it were blocking the direction of the signal.  This would also be counter productive for the use with backer material for speakers.  It would take any rattle out of the fiberglass though.  Maybe they have something new that is not foil covered.

As far as its use in a fairing compared to the foam supplied FREE with the J&M speaker kits, my opinion is that the foam will do more for us in our fairings as sound absorption material than deadening material.  I think it cuts down the out of phase from the rear of the speakers and helps to get more in phase sound out the grills.  It stops the sound from bouncing around inside a fiberglass enclosure.

Dr. V-Twin offered me the option to "upgrade" to the Dynamat, but I stayed with the freebie foam and I'm glad I did.

And for the sticky backer, I was about to give up on getting the paper off to actually stick it in the fairing until I took out a razor blade and cut in the middle of one of the paper peel patches and found out how to peel off the paper.  It sounds simple to just peel that paper off, but once you get the hang of doing it, it is a lot easier.

I am really impressed with the J&M 7.25" upgrade speakers.  (For the money...)  I'm sure that Hawg Wired and Hog Tunes have great products too, but without an extra amp, the $219.95 delivered to your door is not bad.

I had a kick butt system in my Willys streetrod with two amps, Bazooka sub, Infinity speakers and Eclipse head units.  It was awesome to say the least, but there were issues with it while driving.  My exhaust was 3" all the way and with a blown 392" hemi it made lots of noise.  On certain tracks and certain artists, the low frequencies of the exhaust would cancel out my low frequencies of the speakers and it was painfully just some mids and high frequencies getting through to the ears.  Now when I was at a show, it was the bomb.

I'm thinking that in our world, bikes with lots of low frequencies from our mufflers (or lack of them), any sound system we install and try to listen to while driving is going to be taxed to the limit to not get cancelled out by our low frequency exhaust.

Just something to ponder...
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2010, 03:34:49 PM »

One side !
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2010, 03:35:15 PM »

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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2010, 03:47:36 PM »

Just something MORE to ponder...

      Have the J & M amp and  speakers with foam pads.  Washed the SERG after a 425 mile ride up to Bass Lake last Friday.  Picked up a lot of dirt in Sequoia Nat'l. Park. where there is still about 6' of snow.  I always try to minimize water near the instruments or fairing.  After washing, I blew dry the bike as usual and then rode into Oakhurst.  It was warm so no jacket.  While riding, I kept getting a light spray of water on me coming from the bottom outside edges of the fairing.  While it was very nice and cooling, it seems the foam pads retain water and we should be very careful to ride after washing / rain, etc. to avoid mold or whatever may result from water retained inside the fairing. 

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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2010, 08:12:00 PM »

Just something MORE to ponder...

      Have the J & M amp and  speakers with foam pads.  Washed the SERG after a 425 mile ride up to Bass Lake last Friday.  Picked up a lot of dirt in Sequoia Nat'l. Park. where there is still about 6' of snow.  I always try to minimize water near the instruments or fairing.  After washing, I blew dry the bike as usual and then rode into Oakhurst.  It was warm so no jacket.  While riding, I kept getting a light spray of water on me coming from the bottom outside edges of the fairing.  While it was very nice and cooling, it seems the foam pads retain water and we should be very careful to ride after washing / rain, etc. to avoid mold or whatever may result from water retained inside the fairing. 

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I never knew that I was getting any water inside my fairing.  I don't know how it could get in there other than running down the windshield, and if that were the case, I would think I would see some indication of that on top of the radio and amp, etc...where it would drip straight down in...but not making it to the outer fairing and getting the foam wet.  I'm not sure I see how that can happen...at least not if everything is sealed properly when you put it back together.  Any theories on how the water is getting there?
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2010, 01:29:02 PM »

The outer fairing is not really "sealed" to the inner.  Water can easily get in by the edges of the windscreen and if you spray from the back, it's not sealed at all.  Water can also get in from below....  Even the headlight nacelle is not water proof.....
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2010, 06:03:33 PM »

Then I guess I'll have to run some bathroom caulking around mine.
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2010, 06:50:52 PM »

This foam product sounds (excuse the pun) like a great idea!

Just wondering if it will affect the reception of the Tune Trapper or XM?   :nixweiss:

Anyone have an opinion?
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2010, 08:43:47 PM »

This foam product sounds (excuse the pun) like a great idea!

Just wondering if it will affect the reception of the Tune Trapper or XM?   :nixweiss:

Anyone have an opinion?

I'm not having any problem with XM, and I have the acoustical pad and both hi and lo beams are HID with ballasts.  I just got the XM back a few days ago when they offered me a good deal that will last me through the warm months.  I don't use it much, but I did try it out a few times over the weekend to make sure it was working okay.
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2010, 03:30:40 AM »

Thanks for the posts, I bought a set from J&M yeasterday.
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2010, 09:57:18 PM »

I lined the inside of the outer and all of the inner fairing that I could with Dynamat. Major difference in sound, more than I expected. No problem with XM reception or Garage door opener. Bought a Dynamat door kit and a loose piece that the shop had left over for $40. Good investment. I looked at the foam from J&M @ Daytona, seemed "cheap" to me, IMHO.
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2010, 04:23:08 PM »

I added the J&M foam to mine, HUGE DIFFERENCE!! very happy, I looked at the Dynamat, sent it back I was concerned with the additional weight on fairing brackets, already have Hog Tunes and amp, we know that the inner fairing brackets are an issue anyway, so I felt go with the foam inview of the weight difference between the two. I have had no problems with reception for garage door opener. :bananarock:
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