Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  
Pages: 1 2 [All]

Author Topic: Pioneer Inno  (Read 6364 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Jock

  • Keep the Faith!
  • Photographer/Historian
  • 25K CVO Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 29032
  • Are You Valley Experienced?
Pioneer Inno
« on: May 22, 2006, 07:48:23 PM »

Any ownership here of the new Pioneer Inno for XM?  If so, can you provide some feedback regarding your experience with the unit?  Have you utilized it with your current CVO setup?

For those of you that are not familiar with this new product...



Features
 
Live XM When Portable or Docked
One touch recording
MP3 (WMA) Storage and Play
50 hours storage of XM recordings*
Compatible with XM + Napster
Home Dock Included
Built-in Wireless FM Transmitter
Artist and TuneSelect
Sports and Stock Tickers
 
 
*When 100% of memory is allocated to stored XM  

Included
 
Remote
Home Stand
Home Antenna
Power Adapter
RCA Cable
USB Cable
Belt Clip/Holder
Ear Buds
Rechargeable Battery
XM+Napster CD
Product Manual
 
Accessories
 
Vehicle Kit
Boblbee D-Pak XM Receiver & Accessory Case
Boblbee XM Travel Case
Belkin Vent Clip
Boblbee D-Pak XM Receiver & Accessory Case
Boblbee XM Travel Case
XM Micro Vehicle Antenna (may require vehicle kit)
XM Home Antenna (Requires use with home kit)
Shure E2 Isolating Earphones
Shure E4c Isolating Earphones
XM Sound Isolating Earphones
Logged

greglyon

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1444
  • 2013 FLHRSE5
    • AZ


    • CVO1: FLHRSE5
    • Phillips and Lyon LLC
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2006, 09:31:36 AM »

Just bought one off of Ebay.  I should get it this week and will do a post once I have a handle on it's performance.  
Logged
"A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory"

Jock

  • Keep the Faith!
  • Photographer/Historian
  • 25K CVO Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 29032
  • Are You Valley Experienced?
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2006, 07:34:48 AM »

Quote
Just bought one off of Ebay.  I should get it this week and will do a post once I have a handle on it's performance.  

Thanks...my thought is, I may replace my current stationary unit in one car with this one for car(s) AND bike.
Logged

The Mysterious Q!

  • Keep the shiny side up and ride it like you stole it.
  • 2.5K CVO Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3108
  • This town needs an enema!
    • CT
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2006, 12:01:37 PM »

I'd be interested as well. I have the MYFI in my car now and its a behemoth compared to the Inno.
Logged
When I grow up I want to be a SEEG 2002 FLHRSEI Rineharts Wild1 Apes Beaucoup Chrome Corbin Seat Wimmer Billet Breather and Spike Filter Beautiful Billet Power Commander PCIII USB LED Skull Horn Cover Skull everything Lyndall Z Pads Xtreme Machine Shredder 18's Metzeler ME 880's Xtra Lights HID

greglyon

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1444
  • 2013 FLHRSE5
    • AZ


    • CVO1: FLHRSE5
    • Phillips and Lyon LLC
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2006, 08:45:45 AM »

I have used my Inno about a week.  I am having problems with the on/off switch and will probably have to send it back. Other than that the quality is excellent.  Very easy to record music from XM.  It comes with docking station for charging and installing to a home stereo.  Includes patch cord for connection to stereo as well as hook up to computer should you care to download music from that source.  Prices are coming down on ebay.  Last time I looked you could buy one for around $290
Logged
"A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory"

Jock

  • Keep the Faith!
  • Photographer/Historian
  • 25K CVO Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 29032
  • Are You Valley Experienced?
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2006, 10:19:13 PM »

Quote
I have used my Inno about a week.  I am having problems with the on/off switch and will probably have to send it back. Other than that the quality is excellent.  Very easy to record music from XM.  It comes with docking station for charging and installing to a home stereo.  Includes patch cord for connection to stereo as well as hook up to computer should you care to download music from that source.  Prices are coming down on ebay.  Last time I looked you could buy one for around $290

Thanks for the feedback...
Logged

flyingwillie

  • Elite CVO Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 885
  • FLHRSEI.ORG

    • CVO1: 05 Cherry SEEG__Sold
    • CVO2: 06 Autumn Haze SEUC__Sold
    • CVO3: 09 Silver/Blue SEUC 4
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2006, 11:04:47 AM »

I have looked at the Inno as well.  I was somewhat concerned  [smiley=confused5.gif] about
the quality of the internal antenna and how it would work on the bike.  Previously I was considering the Delphi Roady 2 until I saw the Inno.  So I too would be pleased to get feedback.
As info you can get a bracket for the Inno on www.bracketron.com I am told
thanks
flyingwillie
Logged

MJZ

  • 2.5K CVO Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3617

    • CVO1: 05 SEEG is on permanent vacation in CA.
    • CVO2: 09 BMW K1300S
    • CVO3: 2010 BMW S1000RR
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2006, 10:54:40 PM »

Quote
I have looked at the Inno as well.  I was somewhat concerned  [smiley=confused5.gif] about
the quality of the internal antenna and how it would work on the bike.  Previously I was considering the Delphi Roady 2 until I saw the Inno.  So I too would be pleased to get feedback.
As info you can get a bracket for the Inno on www.bracketron.com I am told
thanks
flyingwillie

I'm also in the same boat. I was looking into the roady2 or roadyXT for my bike when I came across this portable unit. Any information anyone can offer will be greatly appreciated. Also where have you that have the roady2 or XT installed the antenna? And which is better the 2 or XT?
Logged

jeffj

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1201
  • "Teach a man to swim, but not while he's drowning"

    • CVO1: 2004 Orange Pearl and Jet Black FLHTCSE & 2002 Candy/Brandywine FLHRSEI
    • CVO2: 2006 Autumn Haze FLHTCUSE Sold - 11-11-12 Bought another 2006 SEUC
    • CVO3: 2003 Gold FLHRSEI2 Sold CVO4: 2002 Purple FLHRSEI Crashed
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2006, 11:25:15 PM »

I have been thinking about an Inno, myself
My scooter has the factory XM Satellite system but the Inno would be great for bicycle or boat rides.
I do have to say that I think the Pioneer brand is a good manufacture as I have a couple of the Pioneer Plasma TVs

Logged

Jock

  • Keep the Faith!
  • Photographer/Historian
  • 25K CVO Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 29032
  • Are You Valley Experienced?
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2006, 02:54:27 PM »

I have found a couple of folk that have them, however no one utilizing them on a bike as of yet.  The folks that have them, love 'em.  It is my intent to get one around Christmas when the price is expected to come down another $50.
Logged

greglyon

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1444
  • 2013 FLHRSE5
    • AZ


    • CVO1: FLHRSE5
    • Phillips and Lyon LLC
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2006, 09:17:24 AM »

I have had one for several months.  I do not use it on my bike but could with the optional car kit. Reception is much improved over the earlier mobil xm units.  It incorporated many of the ipod features in an xm receiver package.
Logged
"A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory"

MJZ

  • 2.5K CVO Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3617

    • CVO1: 05 SEEG is on permanent vacation in CA.
    • CVO2: 09 BMW K1300S
    • CVO3: 2010 BMW S1000RR
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2006, 10:30:29 AM »

Quote
I have had one for several months.  I do not use it on my bike but could with the optional car kit. Reception is much improved over the earlier mobil xm units.  It incorporated many of the ipod features in an xm receiver package.
How is your reception w/ the internal antenna? Do you get alot of fading in and out?
Logged

greglyon

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1444
  • 2013 FLHRSE5
    • AZ


    • CVO1: FLHRSE5
    • Phillips and Lyon LLC
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2006, 01:43:44 PM »

Quote
How is your reception w/ the internal antenna? Do you get alot of fading in and out?

if your stationary or in an area that has terrestrial antennas no problem.
if you are jogging or walking it is finnicky.  Belton has a headset that doubles as an antenna that i am told is not as comfortable as the stock headphones but do a better job  w/reception.  I use mine in a car, at home and while traveling.  Works great so long as you have a South facing window on the internal antenna.  
Logged
"A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory"

JCZ

  • Global Moderator
  • 10K CVO Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 23525
    • AZ


    • CVO1: 04 SEEG...sold
    • CVO2: 10 SESG...sold
    • CVO3: 13 FLHTCSE 8
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2006, 07:18:52 PM »

Anybody use this on their bike that can give us a report on antenna reception for the XM radio side of it? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
Logged
Never trade the thrills of living for the security of existence.  Remember...it's the journey, not the destination!

West Coast GTG   
Reno, NV (04), Reno, NV (05),  Cripple Creek, CO (06)  Hood River, OR (09), Lake Tahoe, CA (11) Carmel, CA (14), Ouray CO (15) Fortuna, Ca. (16)

Ceej

  • HD C-ustomer V-ery O-ften
  • Elite CVO Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 625
  • You've found CVOHarley.com, Now seek counseling...
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2006, 07:51:51 PM »

I have one and love it, BUT..... just so you know, The FM trasnmitter feature has been disabled in the software unless the car kit is used. The FCC came down on them saying it was to powerful. The early models with the early software still function but not any you get now. This means it has to be in the car dock and I just bought one on ebay so I will see how it works with that this weekend. Reception is good with the built in antenna but havent tried it on the bike just yet as I would have to use the patch cord. I might still do that, bought an extra fuel cap cover door to modify and mount it if I have to. The storage is huge so I just tuned in top tracks and recorded a ton of that and will just listen back to that until I rig up an antenna if it gives me reception problems with the built in one.
Logged
2004 SEEG
1995 FLHR
2000 FLSTF
1968 RSSS

Eagle Rider #1747

There really is a Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown........:)

Ceej

  • HD C-ustomer V-ery O-ften
  • Elite CVO Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 625
  • You've found CVOHarley.com, Now seek counseling...
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2006, 07:56:27 PM »

Also - anybody that recently got one, there is a new software upgrade on the XM website, download it then hook up a mini USB cable to the unit while in the home dock and it will upgrade - supposed to greatly improve the battery life when the unit is off - right now when you turn it off I don't think it really shuts down, keeps using power and won't last long off.
Logged
2004 SEEG
1995 FLHR
2000 FLSTF
1968 RSSS

Eagle Rider #1747

There really is a Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown........:)

MJZ

  • 2.5K CVO Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3617

    • CVO1: 05 SEEG is on permanent vacation in CA.
    • CVO2: 09 BMW K1300S
    • CVO3: 2010 BMW S1000RR
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2006, 08:18:57 PM »

The clerk at Bestbuy was warning me not to download the update for it. He said it had something to do with taking a peice of software off the unit and I would have to buy that capability after I did the update. Not sure what he said but I remember he said not to fall for the BS about the update. You might want to look into it. I think I read something about it on the Circuit City website, user comments.
Logged

Ceej

  • HD C-ustomer V-ery O-ften
  • Elite CVO Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 625
  • You've found CVOHarley.com, Now seek counseling...
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2006, 08:40:52 PM »

No, It is the wireless deal I spoke of. When you first start your Inno on the screen you will see a v1.xx on the bottom. Unless you got it early this year it is likely v1.10 only the very early ones were v1.05 and they sold out quick. The FCC said the power was too high and you transmit to other cars near you on the road - which stinks because I loved the wireless on the myfi, could tune in in the house from the unit in the garage. So anyhow, if you upgrade you lose that but only if you have v1.05 - the fixes in the upgrade are many.....

Here are the release notes:

If you are upgrading from Pioneer Inno with software version 1.05, the following changes are included in this XM software upgrade version v1.30:

(1) Due to regulatory issues, as a result of this upgrade,
the FM modulator feature will not be available when the
unit is used in the portable mode or when the unit is
used in the home dock. The FM modulator will now
operate only if the unit is placed in the optional car
dock. If this upgrade is not acceptable to you by
reason of the loss of the FM modulator outside of the
car dock, you may return your unit for a full refund
by contacting XM at 1-866-259-9771. (This offer is
available only to consumers who purchased a Pioneer
Inno XM Satellite Radio with software version 1.05.)

(2) The factory default frequency for the FM modulator was
changed to 97.9.

(3) An issue in which scheduled recordings would sometimes
not initiate unless the radio was powered up first in
the home dock has been addressed.

(4) Users will now be able to play MP3 and WMA files
without XM subscriber activation.

(5) The upgrade provides support for certain MP3 id3v2.3
extended headers that had previously resulted in
continuous 'scanning files' message.

(6) An issue in which the radio sometimes froze when a USB
cable was connected in the midst of powering down has
been addressed.

(7) An issue was corrected in which quickly selecting 2
un-used XM channel numbers in a row with the remote
control would cause the radio to change back and forth
between these 2 channels until a subsequent valid
channel selection was made.

(8) An issue in which artist names longer than 16 characters
resulted in incorrect tune-select pop-up text has been
addressed.

(9) An issue in which the radio would sometimes freeze on
the start-up screen after playing music from a playlist
followed by a hard restart has been addressed.

(10) The time required for the radio to power up automatically
when the USB cable is connected has been reduced.

(11) A screen advisory has been added during firmware
updates, telling the user to keep radio connected to
external power source until the firmware update is
complete.

(12) A screen advisory has been added during a change in the
memory partition, telling the user to keep the radio
connected to external power source until memory
repartition is complete.

(13) If unit is in USB mode and activated over the air,
“scanning files” will not occur. (Scanning files will
occur when USB is disconnected.)

(14) The scanning files dialog box was made larger to cover
the animation graphic.

(15) The “/” character is now always displayed correctly when the
display is running in the large, scrolling format.

(16) Battery life when the radio is off is extended considerably
when starting from a fully charged battery.

(17) Corrected a problem in which the digital clock on the radio
occasionally displayed the incorrect time.

Please select 'CONTINUE' to accept these changes and continue the upgrade, or 'CANCEL' to cancel. By selecting “CONTINUE”, you are agreeing to accept all the changes listed above. If you have any questions regarding this upgrade please contact XM at 1-866-259-9771.  

....so there you go, the current standby or off battery life STINKS - like one day - so the fix is worth it.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2006, 08:55:12 PM by ceej »
Logged
2004 SEEG
1995 FLHR
2000 FLSTF
1968 RSSS

Eagle Rider #1747

There really is a Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown........:)

greglyon

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1444
  • 2013 FLHRSE5
    • AZ


    • CVO1: FLHRSE5
    • Phillips and Lyon LLC
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2006, 09:08:09 AM »

Quote
Also - anybody that recently got one, there is a new software upgrade on the XM website, download it then hook up a mini USB cable to the unit while in the home dock and it will upgrade - supposed to greatly improve the battery life when the unit is off - right now when you turn it off I don't think it really shuts down, keeps using power and won't last long off.


The battery has been a major issue when i take it on the road.  Turned off it fully discharges in 2 days .  Thanks for the info.  I will download the file.  
Logged
"A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory"

Jock

  • Keep the Faith!
  • Photographer/Historian
  • 25K CVO Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 29032
  • Are You Valley Experienced?
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2006, 09:50:49 PM »

Thanks for all of the great information...I purchased mine today and will install it in the car tomorrow.  Plan to order the bike mount this week and hope to have it installed prior to Maggie Valley.
Logged

JCZ

  • Global Moderator
  • 10K CVO Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 23525
    • AZ


    • CVO1: 04 SEEG...sold
    • CVO2: 10 SESG...sold
    • CVO3: 13 FLHTCSE 8
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2006, 12:04:45 PM »

Quote
Thanks for all of the great information...I purchased mine today and will install it in the car tomorrow.  Plan to order the bike mount this week and hope to have it installed prior to Maggie Valley.

Jock....after you've had an opportunity to experiment with it......will you give us a report on how well it works on the bike?

Thanks a bunch!
Logged
Never trade the thrills of living for the security of existence.  Remember...it's the journey, not the destination!

West Coast GTG   
Reno, NV (04), Reno, NV (05),  Cripple Creek, CO (06)  Hood River, OR (09), Lake Tahoe, CA (11) Carmel, CA (14), Ouray CO (15) Fortuna, Ca. (16)

Jock

  • Keep the Faith!
  • Photographer/Historian
  • 25K CVO Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 29032
  • Are You Valley Experienced?
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2006, 07:28:50 AM »

Quote

Jock....after you've had an opportunity to experiment with it......will you give us a report on how well it works on the bike?

Thanks a bunch!

JC,

Will do...Works great in the car...as for portable, the reception must be enhanced.  I already know that I will need to purchase an antenna for best reception.  I will keep ya posted.
Logged

greglyon

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1444
  • 2013 FLHRSE5
    • AZ


    • CVO1: FLHRSE5
    • Phillips and Lyon LLC
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2006, 09:20:49 AM »

I did the download.  It fixed the battery problem. When using the car mount and external antenna the reception is flawless. I would be a little concerned that the connection between the inno and mount would be secure enough on a bike.
If you are going to use it on a bike figure on using the external antenna.  

While flying, I wedged it in the window facing south and had great reception the entire flight.  
Logged
"A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory"

Jock

  • Keep the Faith!
  • Photographer/Historian
  • 25K CVO Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 29032
  • Are You Valley Experienced?
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2006, 10:03:11 PM »

Today I purchased the Antenna Headphones for the portable use...Very nice...no flaws here...

Now I am reviewing several options for the bike including one that has already been posted in this thread.  Another one is on http://www.cyclegadgets.com...I will keep you posted on my results...At this point I am thinking a car kit with the antenna on the mount from cycle gadgets... [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
Logged

Ceej

  • HD C-ustomer V-ery O-ften
  • Elite CVO Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 625
  • You've found CVOHarley.com, Now seek counseling...
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2006, 10:14:31 PM »

I also did the software upgrade and can say definate improvement in signal and major improvement in battery life. I have the handlebar mount for the car kit but this car kit is a joke as far as securely holding the unit - not even close. Will be experimenting this weekend.
Logged
2004 SEEG
1995 FLHR
2000 FLSTF
1968 RSSS

Eagle Rider #1747

There really is a Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown........:)

greglyon

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1444
  • 2013 FLHRSE5
    • AZ


    • CVO1: FLHRSE5
    • Phillips and Lyon LLC
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2006, 10:09:36 AM »

Quote
Today I purchased the Antenna Headphones for the portable use...Very nice...no flaws here...

Now I am reviewing several options for the bike including one that has already been posted in this thread.  Another one is on http://www.cyclegadgets.com...I will keep you posted on my results...At this point I am thinking a car kit with the antenna on the mount from cycle gadgets... [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

The key will be finding a mount that is secure enough but will allow you to easily and without tools pop it out.  Let me know what you come up with.  Also what brand ear plug/antenna did you  purchase?  Are they as comfortable as the stock headphones?
Logged
"A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory"

Jock

  • Keep the Faith!
  • Photographer/Historian
  • 25K CVO Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 29032
  • Are You Valley Experienced?
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2006, 09:16:33 PM »

Quote

The key will be finding a mount that is secure enough but will allow you to easily and without tools pop it out.  Let me know what you come up with.  Also what brand ear plug/antenna did you  purchase?  Are they as comfortable as the stock headphones?

Belkin...they can be purchased at Best Buy...$39 and some change...work well outdoors.  Reviewing options for the bike...I hear everyone regarding securing it on the bike...
Logged

Ceej

  • HD C-ustomer V-ery O-ften
  • Elite CVO Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 625
  • You've found CVOHarley.com, Now seek counseling...
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2006, 12:29:39 AM »

Got a standard chrome gizmo holder plate off ebay for 10$ and got it in place but this car holder is a joke. The unit will never stay in place on its own. So I got some hair ties - basically cloth rubber bands, to go around the unit, the car cradle and the mount plate. No antenna rigged up yet, might try on the dash, but I may just use it like an Ipod alot anyhow via the FM modulator, It stores like 50hours of XM - and you can edit it so should the antenna cause problems, I'm good.
Logged
2004 SEEG
1995 FLHR
2000 FLSTF
1968 RSSS

Eagle Rider #1747

There really is a Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown........:)

Ceej

  • HD C-ustomer V-ery O-ften
  • Elite CVO Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 625
  • You've found CVOHarley.com, Now seek counseling...
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2006, 12:32:19 AM »

one more...Its not bad but not as good as it should be..
Logged
2004 SEEG
1995 FLHR
2000 FLSTF
1968 RSSS

Eagle Rider #1747

There really is a Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown........:)

Ceej

  • HD C-ustomer V-ery O-ften
  • Elite CVO Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 625
  • You've found CVOHarley.com, Now seek counseling...
Re: Pioneer Inno
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2007, 08:54:56 PM »

Updated install pic, I routed the antenna up into the fairing and came out on the dash, works great, no drop out unless very heavy foilage or riding along a side a building or cliff to the south west...
Logged
2004 SEEG
1995 FLHR
2000 FLSTF
1968 RSSS

Eagle Rider #1747

There really is a Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown........:)
Pages: 1 2 [All]
 

Page created in 0.214 seconds with 21 queries.