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[Z man]

     I'm not at all pleased with either the navigation or XM in my Harmon Kardon radio and I am considering a Zumo 665.  I have several questions before I buy one and hope others can fill in the blanks for me.
     Can the included maps be updated in the next few years, and if so, how expensive might they be?  I cannot find any reference anywhere about maps other than it is preloaded with City Navigator.  I have a Magellen GPS now and they charge almost as much for the new maps that I could buy a new GPS instead.  The Zumo is much more expensive, so I buying a replacement unit is not much of an option.
     Can you store XM stations?  How easy is it easy to navigate and use the XM?
     Can you set the ZUMO to an FM frequency and pick up that signal on the HK FM radio like my other portable XM reciever does, or is the interface module necessary be connected to the HK?
     Has anyone used a RAM mount and are how pleased are you with it?
     Is this unit worth the high cost or should I consider mounting another GPS and XP reciever on my bike like I had on my last Ultra?
     Lots of questions, so maybe I can get some of them answered before I make the purchase.  THANKS!

[Monolyth]

The maps are $49 for a single shot and $99 for a lifetime of upgrades.  You do get to update it with the latest maps when you buy it for like 30 days or something.

Monolyth

[16HD117]

     I'm not at all pleased with either the navigation or XM in my Harmon Kardon radio and I am considering a Zumo 665.  I have several questions before I buy one and hope others can fill in the blanks for me.
     Can the included maps be updated in the next few years, and if so, how expensive might they be?  I cannot find any reference anywhere about maps other than it is preloaded with City Navigator.  I have a Magellen GPS now and they charge almost as much for the new maps that I could buy a new GPS instead.  The Zumo is much more expensive, so I buying a replacement unit is not much of an option.
     Can you store XM stations?  How easy is it easy to navigate and use the XM?
     Can you set the ZUMO to an FM frequency and pick up that signal on the HK FM radio like my other portable XM reciever does, or is the interface module necessary be connected to the HK?
     Has anyone used a RAM mount and are how pleased are you with it?
     Is this unit worth the high cost or should I consider mounting another GPS and XP reciever on my bike like I had on my last Ultra?
     Lots of questions, so maybe I can get some of them answered before I make the purchase.  THANKS!

!.  Yep, you can store XM stations.

2.  No FM from the Zumo, but you can still use the HK FM.

3.  Lots of folks use ram mounts.  They work great!

4.  Is it worth the money?  Definitely, if you take a lot of trips.

A nice feature on the 665 is the weather radar.  It won't keep you out of the rain, but you'll know when to put rain gear on!
 

[limited1432]

Ok any Gps zumo 665 from harley you will need the interface module......to use cd---fm---am---etc. for the prompts from the Nav unit.
A new modulator interface has just been updated since the other one had an issue.
The mp3 player in the zumo 665and  the Nav settings and and Xm settings all are saved.
The updates for unlimited maps and update have a fee through Garmin you can go to the garmin site.
Now as far as the mount....I would try the ram mount on the handle bars...I have it on the inner fairing and cant see it during the day when the Sun is bright. Also.....I cant adjust it to see it. At least if it was adjustable I would be more happy.
Also the Zumo 665 has weather doppler where the 660 does not...would i buy another one? yes
I am still waiting for the new Nav interface module

Hope this helps

[Midnight Rider]

The XM on the HK radio will work better if you relocate the antenna.

The NAV on the HK radio sucks and is basically useless, IMO.

If you want full functionality with the HK radio, like navigation prompts through the stereo system, you need to look into getting the HD NIM setup and instead of getting the Garmin 665, get the HD Roadtech 665.  Otherwise, you'll need to run the output of the Garmin through the AUX input on the HK.  Even with the Roadtech, you'd have to do that to hear MP3's, and the XM from the GPS.  Youll have to set the HK to AUX to hear the stuff from the GPS through the stereo/intercom.  If you don't care about the prompts interrupting the HK, then the Garmin units will do fine.

There is a thread here that talks about installing the NIM system on bikes that were not equipped with it.  It's just something you might want to consider before jumping in...

[Z man]

WOW!  Is this fourm GREATor what?  I had lots of questions and within a few hours they have ALL been answered. 

One last question about the NIM.  How will I know if I'm getting the new version?  Is there a part number difference?

Thanks for the feedback from all of you.

Z man

[CVODON]

Lifetime update from Amazon about $80.00, the handlebar bracket from the 2011 CVO Road Glide works very good and if you have an Ultra the fairing mount works excellent and both far exceed anything else in looks and are made for the bikes, not ADAPTED to the bike.

[bissjim]

WOW!  Is this fourm GREATor what?  I had lots of questions and within a few hours they have ALL been answered. 

One last question about the NIM.  How will I know if I'm getting the new version?  Is there a part number difference?

Thanks for the feedback from all of you.

Z man

The NEW part # has (A3) at the end.

[Midnight Rider]

WOW!  Is this fourm GREATor what?  I had lots of questions and within a few hours they have ALL been answered. 

One last question about the NIM.  How will I know if I'm getting the new version?  Is there a part number difference?

Thanks for the feedback from all of you.

Z man

We like to spend other people's money, but try to help you only spend it once.     Bissjim is the expert on all things NIM related, plus a whole bunch of other stuff.   

[Ticitme]

The NEW part # has (A3) at the end.

A3? Crap, you mean they changed it again? My updated one came with an 11A on the end of it.

[RedEagle]

WOW!  Is this fourm GREATor what?  I had lots of questions and within a few hours they have ALL been answered. 

One last question about the NIM.  How will I know if I'm getting the new version?  Is there a part number difference?

Thanks for the feedback from all of you.

Z man

I am following this thread.
What is NIM?
I have a Garmin Nuiv 550 with a handlebar mount from my sold Road King.
Thanks

[SBB]

A3? Crap, you mean they changed it again? My updated one came with an 11A on the end of it.

Ticitme

Here is a picture of the latest NIM. (note the date on the box)
If you have the 11A you should have the latest one.

SBB

click on picture to enlarge

[Z man]

Another question about the Zumo 665:  Can the XM part be used in the automobile also or just the GPS?  You will need another antenna for the car, right?

[dayne66]

Another question about the Zumo 665:  Can the XM part be used in the automobile also or just the GPS?  You will need another antenna for the car, right?

Yep, another antenna AND another subscription! That's why I got a 660 and will use the mini-SD cards and I already have many CDs with over 200 MP3s on each. Don't need xm anyway.

[Z man]

Why would you need another subscription?  A subscription follows the reciever, not the vehicle or where it is being used.

Z mzn

[Fired00d]

Why would you need another subscription?  A subscription follows the reciever, not the vehicle or where it is being used.

Z mzn

If the 665 is like the 550 the "antenna is the receiver".

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Z man]

Now that SUCKS!

[dayne66]

Nope...subscription follows the antenna...just went through this with xM & Sirius.

Why would you need another subscription?  A subscription follows the reciever, not the vehicle or where it is being used.

Z mzn

[Z man]

How does this antenna attach? Is it magnetic where it could be moved from one vehicle to another?  I wanted to purchase the 665 and use both the GPS & XM (with a lifetime subscription) on the bike during the summer riding season and also use it in my car when I needed it there.

[dayne66]

It gets mounted in the fairing...not too bad to swap out twice a year......but, I would be swapping way too often,like twice a month! And...no new lifetime subscriptions available up here in Canada anymore.

[Z man]

I'm thinking. . . . could you not mount it perhaps on the dashboard or other place near the handle bars with some kind of magnetic mount base and have it available for easy removal?

[Midnight Rider]

I'm thinking. . . . could you not mount it perhaps on the dashboard or other place near the handle bars with some kind of magnetic mount base and have it available for easy removal?

There are ways to do that, but the XM antenna is a big 'ol thing for the 665, with a bunch of wire, all of which would be sitting wherever you mount it.  In a word, it's ugly as chit.

[bissjim]

I am following this thread.
What is NIM?
I have a Garmin Nuiv 550 with a handlebar mount from my sold Road King.
Thanks

Yes the part # on the box will have the "-11A" on the box.

Sorry I did not designate between the box and the unit in my reply. I spoke with a person a few days before this post. He was attempting to figure out if he had a new or old NIM already installed in his bike by the factory. He did not have the box so I told him to look for the A3 on the white tag on the unit itself. Me bad.

Jim

[charles05663]

If the 665 is like the 550 the "antenna is the receiver".

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

I know that I was looking at a 665.  What stopped me was the antenna/subscription issue.  It really sucks that you cannot just switch this between the bike/car and have you XM and weather.

[Ticitme]

Ticitme

Here is a picture of the latest NIM. (note the date on the box)
If you have the 11A you should have the latest one.

SBB

click on picture to enlarge

Yes the part # on the box will have the "-11A" on the box.




Sorry I did not designate between the box and the unit in my reply. I spoke with a person a few days before this post. He was attempting to figure out if he had a new or old NIM already installed in his bike by the factory. He did not have the box so I told him to look for the A3 on the white tag on the unit itself. Me bad.

Jim

Thanks for the clarification. I DO have the most current part #!

[SBB]

Thanks for the clarification. I DO have the most current part #!

THAT is the most important thing.

 

SBB

[TheLoneWolfPack]

I had the HK nav on my 09 Ultra, and now have the 665 on my 11 FLHXSE2, and in my humble opinion, the 665 kicks-buttocks -- works flawlessly.  I have the paid weather service as well, and this summer it saved my dry butt about 15 times -- i was able to outrun some storms, pulling over and the let fly by, reroute my trip for others, -- I'm trying to figure out what took Harley so long to provide the weather service on any nav device.

I have XM radio paid subscription, I use it on long trips, but have most of the songs played on XM either on the Ipod or in the  665 itself.  Sometimes I use it to listen to talk radio and the weather channel, because I can only listen to Free Bird so many times.  LOL

In sum, I would highly recommend it, and get the fairing mount -- less vibration so you can read it standing still.

[guppytrash]

I had the HK nav on my 09 Ultra, and now have the 665 on my 11 FLHXSE2, and in my humble opinion, the 665 kicks-buttocks -- works flawlessly.  I have the paid weather service as well, and this summer it saved my dry butt about 15 times -- i was able to outrun some storms, pulling over and the let fly by, reroute my trip for others, -- I'm trying to figure out what took Harley so long to provide the weather service on any nav device.

I have XM radio paid subscription, I use it on long trips, but have most of the songs played on XM either on the Ipod or in the  665 itself.  Sometimes I use it to listen to talk radio and the weather channel, because I can only listen to Free Bird so many times.  LOL

In sum, I would highly recommend it, and get the fairing mount -- less vibration so you can read it standing still.

So is this pretty much the general results.  The 665 is working flawless and the 660 has some glitches?

[bissjim]

They all have glitches if you get a bad one contact your dealer. If they replace it you will get a new one. If you go thru Garmin you will get a refurbished one, which sucks because you bought new and they should replace it with new. For the most part they are good units.

Jim

[TheLoneWolfPack]

So is this pretty much the general results.  The 665 is working flawless and the 660 has some glitches?

I never had a glitch on the HK Radio Nav or the 665.  However, my current FLHXSE2 HK boom system has already had an amp replaced, and going in a second time for the same or different fix.  From what I read, the Boom audio is junk -- I don't there is a problem with the HK head unit in this bike, but we shall see.  IMO, the Garmin 665 is an excellent product.

[TheLoneWolfPack]

If the 665 is like the 550 the "antenna is the receiver".

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

The Antenna is a separate plug in unit, called GXM 40, and need it in your car too.  Your paid subscription is for the device, and not the Antenna.

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=15004&ra=true

[TIF2]

The Antenna is a separate plug in unit, called GXM 40, and need it in your car too.  Your paid subscription is for the device, and not the Antenna.

True.

Unfortunately, in the case of the Garmin, the XM receiver is in the "antenna" and not the GPS unit itself (hence the designation "XM" in GXM-40). It is a combination unit and cannot be separated.

Each GXM-40 will require a separate XM subscription.

[TheLoneWolfPack]

True.

Unfortunately, in the case of the Garmin, the XM receiver is in the "antenna" and not the GPS unit itself (hence the designation "XM" in GXM-40). It is a combination unit and cannot be separated.

Each GXM-40 will require a separate XM subscription.

I stand corrected. Thanks Rich for clearing that up. Lucky I did not buy that antenna.  But it looks like an atenna - there's nothing to it really.

[480Ruger]

Does this look correct?

The following are the parts you need per HD....
1106 screw
1107 screw
11100009 pad, inr fairing
4569x2 screw for dash
57842-06 decrotive trim-fairing dash
57860-06 dash pad
76000014 665 gps
760000024a navigation interface
7686x2 nut
92346-10 gps mount
92466-10 retainer gps

2010 SEUC 
Thanks,
Gregg

[480Ruger]

Wonder why she gave me a different P# for the NIM and not 83537-11A?

[S.E.Chic]

Ok guys,
I am also looking at adding the Zumo 665 to my '11 FLHXSE2.  Why does it say that the interface will not work with this model? Has anyone put one on their street glide?
76000014  KIT-GPS,ZUMO 665...
92238-09  FAIRING MOUNT KIT, ZUMO 6...
76000024A Navigation Interface Module
I was thinking that all I need are the above 3 parts.
Can anyone confirm? What about the interface?
Thanks!
Kim

[Mano]

It works. Had mine installed from day one from the stealer.

[bissjim]

Ok guys,
I am also looking at adding the Zumo 665 to my '11 FLHXSE2.  Why does it say that the interface will not work with this model? Has anyone put one on their street glide?
76000014  KIT-GPS,ZUMO 665...
92238-09  FAIRING MOUNT KIT, ZUMO 6...
76000024A Navigation Interface Module
I was thinking that all I need are the above 3 parts.
Can anyone confirm? What about the interface?
Thanks!
Kim

It may be because your bike does not have the rquired connectors. You need to add an overlay harness of follow the direction in this thread.

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=53364.15

Jim

[S.E.Chic]

Thanks for the info! My service manager was working to come up with an answer and was to call me on Tuesday.