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[RJ749]

Today is the day.  The installer is here with the film kit to do the install on the SEUC.  Looks to have the fairing, hard bags covered and will most likely need to return to do the lowers.

The kit includes the sides of the hard bags as well but I don't know if I'll do them.  Since he has them, I may just do them, they can always be removed.

He was quicker than me and had the upper half of the fairing done when I got down to take pics.  I couldn't tell in the shadow that it was on the bike already.

[RJ749]

The remaining pieces of the kit.

[RJ749]

What's next, the batwings...................

[RJ749]

Making sure the final fit is good and molds to the fairing..................

[RJ749]

Now the hard bags.......

[RJ749]

Squirt, squirt and then apply the film to be squeegied............

[RJ749]

Lay it on the bag and squeegy..................

[RJ749]

If this had taken longer I think I would feel better about the price

[RJ749]

Doing the right side...........

[RJ749]

Lining it up....................

[RJ749]

And squeegy in place..................

[RJ749]

So, only time will tell, but I am very pleased with the look so far.  It will get a few days in the warmth of the showroom to cure, total curing time is actually up to 30 days to have the ultimate look with all of the liquid used in application finally working it's way out through evaporation.

I am definitely pleased so far.............more to follow in a week or two.

[Fired00d]

Roger,
Looks good. Just think if you had taken the bags off and had them on a table for installer he would have had it done even faster.

BTW - I noticed a FXDWG3 over in the corner feeling a little neglected. You need to give it some attention too.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[RJ749]

Weather here is getting much better so I am glad to have this on for riding season.  The DWG is neglected, no doubt, not sure if it got any miles last summer.  I have a new battery for it that never got put in last year, we have had it on a maintainer of and on so I'll get some miles on this year.  Oh, just ordered a new tail light for the DWG though.  Still good for the OCD fix even when not riding it.

One of them will most likely live in eastern Washington at the new house so I know they both will log miles in 2007.

On the install, I had offered to have the bags off, he wanted them left on though so he could apply the pressure on the squeegy easily.

He'll be back to do the lowers and a couple of other small areas that he may custom cut.  Not sure whether I should do the headlight and fogs or not, the stuff is thicker on them and would protect against breakage as well as keep you on the road even if the light got a direct hit from a big rock.  I guess I will, it comes off easily enough.

We just had a 2000 Boxster traded and the headlights were covered, the detailers peeled it off as it had taken a beating and the actual lens was like new.

I think I'm sold on the install, just need to see how it dries and looks then.

[HWYMAN1]

Weather here is getting much better so I am glad to have this on for riding season.  The DWG is neglected, no doubt, not sure if it got any miles last summer.  I have a new battery for it that never got put in last year, we have had it on a maintainer of and on so I'll get some miles on this year.  Oh, just ordered a new tail light for the DWG though.  Still good for the OCD fix even when not riding it.

One of them will most likely live in eastern Washington at the new house so I know they both will log miles in 2007.

On the install, I had offered to have the bags off, he wanted them left on though so he could apply the pressure on the squeegy easily.

He'll be back to do the lowers and a couple of other small areas that he may custom cut.  Not sure whether I should do the headlight and fogs or not, the stuff is thicker on them and would protect against breakage as well as keep you on the road even if the light got a direct hit from a big rock.  I guess I will, it comes off easily enough.

We just had a 2000 Boxster traded and the headlights were covered, the detailers peeled it off as it had taken a beating and the actual lens was like new.

I think I'm sold on the install, just need to see how it dries and looks then.

Look good. Have done that on several cars with low front ends( 911, etc.). Still have mine in box for 06 SEUC. Will wait to hear more on your impression in future if you think make difference. Seems fairing, lowers, and at least front of saddle bags would mininum to cover. Hope it still looks as good in a month, john

[RJ749]

Look good. Have done that on several cars with low front ends( 911, etc.). Still have mine in box for 06 SEUC. Will wait to hear more on your impression in future if you think make difference. Seems fairing, lowers, and at least front of saddle bags would mininum to cover. Hope it still looks as good in a month, john

I just stuck it near the window in the showroom and the metalflake really shows well.  I know it will look great in a month, I just hope it looks really great

[RJ749]

Here's a pick that shows the crimson coming through the 3M film.  Pretty shiny too.

[nixobilly]

rjob749,

ok, now that you have our attention, what did it set you back for the treatment?

Mark

[RJ749]

rjob749,
ok, now that you have our attention, what did it set you back for the treatment?
Mark

Uh oh, was I supposed to ask? 

I'll call and see what he says, this was the first one he's done with all the pieces. 

This installer said it would be $350.00 installed.

I like having it installed since he's really good about backing up his work and should a piece need adjustment or reinstallation it is guaranteed by him.  (hope he stays in business)

[igofar]

Hey Roger, protective film looks great!!
You mention the installer had a kit... our guy just has been free hand cutting ours.
I wonder where he gets the pre cut panels from??

For anyone who has not seen the "latest" generation of protective film, times have changed and this stuff is VERY good looking now.
The acutal film is much thinner than before and the edges seem to stay put!


Brad

[Twolanerider]

$350.00 installed.

Just FWIW, the package that arrived here with all the pre-cut pieces was $140 for the 3M kit.  So apparently that's a pretty average parts cost.  Would be worth a fair bit for a knowing install with guaranteed re-do if something isn't right.  I just couldn't find a film installer around here who was willing to do it on a bike.

[nixobilly]

couldn't be more difficult than installing the wild one chubby bars would it?   

Mark

[Twolanerider]

couldn't be more difficult than installing the wild one chubby bars would it?   

Mark

Amen to that Brother Mark.  Amen to that.  I'd not be choosing to pay a full $200 for the install when all the product was only $130.00.  So we'll see how handy I am with a squeegee and a squirt bottle in a few days.

[RJ749]

Hey Roger, protective film looks great!!
You mention the installer had a kit... our guy just has been free hand cutting ours.
I wonder where he gets the pre cut panels from??
For anyone who has not seen the "latest" generation of protective film, times have changed and this stuff is VERY good looking now.
The acutal film is much thinner than before and the edges seem to stay put!
Brad

Several of the companies that are out there have the patterns.  The guy we use said he has two different ones that both have bike patterns.

Don mentioned he isn't doing the hard bags, but I figured it was there and once it was on I was impressed with it.  He's bringing some wax that is designed to clean and shine it too, so I'll pass that along as well when I find out what it is.

The really good part of all of this is if I decided I didn't like it, it comes off with a heat gun and some solvent to wipe the glue residue off.

[Twolanerider]

He's bringing some wax that is designed to clean and shine it too, so I'll pass that along as well when I find out what it is.

Definitely get the name of that product.  All I was told was "most products will work but nothing with any kind of abrasives."  When I tried to clarify that "most" suggestion the little girl on the phone just said "I dunno."

[RJ749]

Definitely get the name of that product.  All I was told was "most products will work but nothing with any kind of abrasives."  When I tried to clarify that "most" suggestion the little girl on the phone just said "I dunno."

This sounded like some new product he was getting from the supplier that was specifically for the film applications.  I'll talk with him tomorrow, I just got an order to do a Turbo for delivery so he'll be back up.

[hard10]

Just FWIW, the package that arrived here with all the pre-cut pieces was $140 for the 3M kit.  So apparently that's a pretty average parts cost.  Would be worth a fair bit for a knowing install with guaranteed re-do if something isn't right.  I just couldn't find a film installer around here who was willing to do it on a bike.

C'mon 2LN, where'd ya get the kit??? You know we're all dying to know!!!

[RJ749]

WFP found this one out there:

http://www.xpel.com/products/configurator.asp?prevtype=3&prevyear=2006&prevmake=70&prevmodel=950&prevsubmodel=2680&prevseries=0&type=3&year=2006&make=70&model=950&submodel=2680&series=1029

Roll Your Own: $29.95   http://www.onlinecyclestore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=389

[Twolanerider]

C'mon 2LN, where'd ya get the kit??? You know we're all dying to know!!!

Had to go check the package to remember for sure AJ.  A place called StickerCity out in Van Nuys.

Here's a link to the product itself:

http://www.stickercity.com/store/product.php?productid=18566

I'd remembered the price wrong too.  The 3m version was $121.94 for a precut kit to do the whole bike.

[newseultra07]

Name of product is called 3M invinca shield. They sell the kits & it comes with the solution & directions to install. I've bought kits from them for my truck....Now cant find them on internet...

[HWYMAN1]

Had to go check the package to remember for sure AJ.  A place called StickerCity out in Van Nuys.

Here's a link to the product itself:

http://www.stickercity.com/store/product.php?productid=18566

I'd remembered the price wrong too.  The 3m version was $121.94 for a precut kit to do the whole bike.

Don,
that is where I got mine also. Still sitting in roll tube. The cost now for kit is $99. see:
http://stickercity.com/store/home.php?cat=2482  john

[Twolanerider]

Don,
that is where I got mine also. Still sitting in roll tube. The cost now for kit is $99. see:
http://stickercity.com/store/home.php?cat=2482  john

John, it's $99 for a product called "Ventureshield."  Click the option to get the 3M product and it comes up to the higher price.

Mine's still setting in the tube too.  A weekend project this weekend I hope.

[HWYMAN1]

John, it's $99 for a product called "Ventureshield."  Click the option to get the 3M product and it comes up to the higher price.

Mine's still setting in the tube too.  A weekend project this weekend I hope.

Don,
My bad, should have known better than to doubt you! John

[Twolanerider]

Don,
My bad, should have known better than to doubt you! John

Not knowing squat (a very technical measure equating to "beans," "bubkus," or "zilch") about either of them I was tempted to order the cheaper stuff.  But a couple of more experienced souls here had already told me the 3M stuff was the way to go.  Having to specifically look for it as a result was the only reason I found the difference there either.

[HWYMAN1]

Not knowing squat (a very technical measure equating to "beans," "bubkus," or "zilch") about either of them I was tempted to order the cheaper stuff.  But a couple of more experienced souls here had already told me the 3M stuff was the way to go.  Having to specifically look for it as a result was the only reason I found the difference there either.

Flying solo and not having guidance of the gurus here I made the plunge and got the cheaper version (actually did not realize there were two qualities available!) Live and learn as usual. I guess since it still sits in roll tube has not had great emotional impact on me!!!  Still would consider putting on fairing if nothing else. Waiting for Rogers report on final cleaning and waxing, John

[RJ749]

Flying solo and not having guidance of the gurus here I made the plunge and got the cheaper version (actually did not realize there were two qualities available!) Live and learn as usual. I guess since it still sits in roll tube has not had great emotional impact on me!!!  Still would consider putting on fairing if nothing else. Waiting for Rogers report on final cleaning and waxing, John

Initial impression is great as expected.  When I get my front forks back I'll be able to get some road miles on it and see how it holds up.  However, with cars traded in that have thousands of miles on them the product holds up great.

I went with the whole package and it is not noticeable from a few feet.

Still waiting on the was spray.

[HWYMAN1]

Initial impression is great as expected.  When I get my front forks back I'll be able to get some road miles on it and see how it holds up.  However, with cars traded in that have thousands of miles on them the product holds up great.

I went with the whole package and it is not noticeable from a few feet.

Still waiting on the was spray.

roger,
any ride report update on the 3M product? John

[RJ749]

roger,
any ride report update on the 3M product? John

I have around 5-600 miles and bugs on it, the other day I was cleaning the wind screen with some glass cleaner.

I had a good amount of bug gunk on the fairing so I just sprayed it down with the glass cleaner as I was in a hurry.  Let it soak and wiped it off with a micro fiber.  Good as new.

It will never have the appearance of freshly waxed paint that shines and is 6 feet deep, but as far as prtecting the paint and looking very good and making clean up a breeze I am very happy with it.

I installed it on 5 Porsche deliveries this week, it is the trade off of rock chips and wear and tear versus a little reduction in appearance.  I still get compliments galore on the bike and the paint so it works for me.

[TimAT]

I just had my Red '07 SEUC done. Looks GREAT! I think it really made the red & gold colors pop up and looks deeper than it did (IMHO). Local guy here in KC is a dealer for XPEL. Did a really good job, very careful to make sure everything is clean, clean, clean. My only regret is that I didn't get my truck done BEFORE it got all chipped & scratched.


 

[Twolanerider]

I just had my Red '07 SEUC done. Looks GREAT! I think it really made the red & gold colors pop up and looks deeper than it did (IMHO). Local guy here in KC is a dealer for XPEL. Did a really good job, very careful to make sure everything is clean, clean, clean. My only regret is that I didn't get my truck done BEFORE it got all chipped & scratched.


 

What did he charge to do the Glide?

[hard10]

I was just reading this thread half an hour ago wondering if I could find someone here in SC to do it.

[nixobilly]

... And in Houston....

Glare is great but I'm tired of wax on - wax - off....


Mark

[JjR]

What did he charge to do the Glide?

These installers are they a chain in other states? I'm in Chicago and would be intrested in having my 03 SERK done?

[TimAT]

I found this local guy thru XPEL's website dealer locator. It was $350 for the fairing, front and top of the saddlebags, side covers, and the top of the front fender. And it was the real 3M film too.

They have another kit that has the tank and lower fairings included, and I'll probably have the lowers done later.

 

[JjR]

I found this local guy thru XPEL's website dealer locator. It was $350 for the fairing, front and top of the saddlebags, side covers, and the top of the front fender. And it was the real 3M film too.

They have another kit that has the tank and lower fairings included, and I'll probably have the lowers done later.

 

Just went to the X-pel website and looked up motorcycles and they do not even list HD. Also they only listed a couple of Auto paint shops in my area that do the applications. I really prefer a bike dealer to do it?

[TimAT]

JjR-- try this link:
http://www.xpel.com/products/configurator.asp?prevtype=3&prevyear=2007&prevmake=70&prevmodel=950&prevsubmodel=0&prevseries=0&type=3&year=2007&make=70&model=950&submodel=5205

Once you get in there, poke around for your model.

Tim

[JjR]

JjR-- try this link:
http://www.xpel.com/products/configurator.asp?prevtype=3&prevyear=2007&prevmake=70&prevmodel=950&prevsubmodel=0&prevseries=0&type=3&year=2007&make=70&model=950&submodel=5205

Once you get in there, poke around for your model.

Tim

Believe it or not 03 SERK aka Road King not shown

[TimAT]

If you look at the pictures on the cut film, I'll bet there's a kit that will work. If not, call them- they can also custom cut the stuff. After I watched the guy install mine, there's no way I'd do a self install on my bike. He spent close to 4 hours getting it right, and having him do it also puts a 5 year warranty on it!!

Tim

[The Bolvine Gigolo!]

Hey! Guy's
Would one or more of you guy's with it on take acouple of Pic's of your bikes I know that not all pictures will do it justice but just maybe and idea of how it looks.

Don..........

[RJ749]

Hey! Guy's
Would one or more of you guy's with it on take acouple of Pic's of your bikes I know that not all pictures will do it justice but just maybe and idea of how it looks.

Don..........

[RJ749]

The above pic is of the front fairing, fender, lowers and hard bags done with 3M, the pic below is of the hard bags done on the top and rear as well as the sides but not shown.

Not as good as nekkid paint but not bad from a few feet.

Rog

[DW6019]

Be cheaper and look a WHOLE lot better if you just stayed further behind whatever it is you are following. I have Invisi Shield on my lowers where my foot comes in contact with the paint while feet are on the h/w pegs. It just looks cheap, no way around it. I see new Porsches, C-Vettes with it on them. Looks cheap there to.
Can not imagine where you all are riding that you need to cover urethane with semi-clear plastic to protect it. But good luck!

[Twolanerider]

Be cheaper and look a WHOLE lot better if you just stayed further behind whatever it is you are following. I have Invisi Shield on my lowers where my foot comes in contact with the paint while feet are on the h/w pegs. It just looks cheap, no way around it. I see new Porsches, C-Vettes with it on them. Looks cheap there to.
Can not imagine where you all are riding that you need to cover urethane with semi-clear plastic to protect it. But good luck!

The highway DW, the highway.  My outer fairing had 16 divots in it of various sizes when it came off.  A few were very large.  Several more on the lowers.  But they are easier to touch up and keep hidden.  Just part of being on the road.

[SPIDERMAN]

Be cheaper and look a WHOLE lot better if you just stayed further behind whatever it is you are following. I have Invisi Shield on my lowers where my foot comes in contact with the paint while feet are on the h/w pegs. It just looks cheap, no way around it. I see new Porsches, C-Vettes with it on them. Looks cheap there to.
Can not imagine where you all are riding that you need to cover urethane with semi-clear plastic to protect it. But good luck!

Couple years ago I bought Linda a Black on Black Mitsu Eclipse GTS Spyder convertible with all leather interior,the hot rod motor and all the other bells and whistles. This idiot at the dealership named Ernie Paremnjar talked me into the Invisi claiming I wouldn't even see it Well when we went to pick up the car, I could see it from 50ft away. Parmenjar tried to BS us, so my wife and I made an appt with the GM, drove the car to the dealership, walked into his office and handed him the keys. We gave him a choice- - take the Invisi off and refund us the cost or he could have the car back. They gave us a loaner, stripped it off the next day, detailed the car and apologized for the incovenience.

Moral of the story is you can put up with your bike looking like your Aunt Mabel's sofa covered in clear vinyl or you can ride it and put up with the dings.

[superbear]

Really looking forward to a report on how it is holding up. Alaska road are well...... not the best and the bug butts are like no where else I have ever ridden in the lower 48.  May just be the answer if it holds up.

[RJ749]

Mine for one is still in great shape and not discolored.  It has been washed many times and continues to hold up.  

Our car customers install it on many high end cars and we seldom have any complaint over time.  I have a 26,000 mile 911 in stock right now that has made numerous trips from Seattle to Great Falls (in excess of the 150's most trips) and even eating bugs at that speed it has held up great.

Some may recall on the GTG to Nelson a few years back I had the misfortune to eat a big pot hole and dump my SEUC, the film on the saddle bag saved a paint job for me that time, although the 3M film was shot, the paint just needed a little rub out.

I give it two thumbs up    

[J B]

I had a substandard install done by Central Coast Clearbra, located in the Bay Area CA. Nice guy, professional demeanor, but he wasn't willing to custom-cut pieces for what wasn't in the kit, and there are a number of flaws. Warrantee is there but it has been really hard to get in touch with the guy (Matt) to come fix the job.
In general a good product but it has to be installed well and the available kits won't cover everything - like the gold leafing, for example.
The kit my guy used (from xpel) covered the fairing, saddlebag lids (including a strip along the lip) and and the saddlebag fronts, but not the sides or backs. The fronts are a little short since we have the stretched bags, and the kit is made for standard.
Attached is a pic of some kind of grit trapped under there. About to pull it off but worried he'll make a fuss about warranty if I do. OCD aside (uncleanable specks! egad!) it has me imagining the film is pushing the grit deeper into the paint every day.
The pic shows a couple pieces of grit under the film, on the front side between the flames and the stripe. You can also see there is a bubble along the contour. The rest of the white spots in the pic (on the side, etc) are glare! On the upside - you don't notice the edge of the film at all  which runs up the edge between front and side.


 

[RJ749]

Is it actually grit or just water?

The little air bubbles can be mostly eliminated during evaporation and if not you can prick the bubble with a fine needle to let out air or moisture.  (do not penetrate to paint)

I wouldn't be concerned about whatever it is grinding the paint under the plastice as it is very stable.

Sorry you had the install issue.  Hope it works out.

I found this link that says it is Clear bra but not sure.  It has all the pieces and can be cut in three different plastics, Ventureshield, ventureshield  Premium and 3M.  http://www.stickercity.com/00-up-harley-flh-electra-glide-complete-clear-bra-kit.html

I'll attach their pattern example here too.  Looks to include sides of bags etc .

[Tom of VA]

I have use this product on my cars and I like it. I has a life of a couple of years before it starts to show wear which is fine. What I am concerned with is how easy does it come off when the time come to replace it? Has any one hear every removed theirs and was there an issue?

[J B]

it does come off easily - just warm it up (I laid a hot towel on the area I was working on), and once you get a corner lifted it peels right off.

PS - The suspicious spots in my pic above were in fact grit - water / air spots do come out if you rub them in with a cloth.

[bubtrauma]

Has anyone got or saved the backings? I have done some of this and would love the backings for templates.

Bub