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Re: Dark Side CVO's?
« Reply #60 on: October 02, 2019, 10:58:36 AM »

Car tires on the back is old news. What I've been waiting for is someone go Full Dark Side and run car tires front and rear. Then they would NEVER have to change tires. It would be a win/win all the way around.

How about it, any Darksiders willing to go Full Dark Side?
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Re: Dark Side CVO's?
« Reply #61 on: October 02, 2019, 11:33:02 AM »

Well I am running Darkside on my 14 CVO ultra so far about
4000 miles with out a single issue 205/60RF-16
Bridgestone DriveGuard  RunFlat .

 I guess you can check with some of the CVO owners that were
 chasing me or that I was following in the Valley last month to see if I had any
problems keeping up or hanging with some of the best riders I know 2 up thru the twistys.

Smoother ride   better mileage about 1/2 the braking distance better handling 
and stopping in the rain I could go on but you should get the point.

So now maybe some of experts out here that have NOT RODE DARKSIDE can list what they think is the down side.

So if you have not tried it.  Don't condemn it Because you DON"T KNOW
Remember there were Motorcycles around for MANY MANY MANY
years before there were specialty motorbike TIRES.

I Did not crash and burn and I got the COOKIES :drink: :drink: :orange: :orange:

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Re: Dark Side CVO's?
« Reply #62 on: October 02, 2019, 11:56:56 AM »

Well I am running Darkside on my 14 CVO ultra so far about
4000 miles with out a single issue 205/60RF-16
Bridgestone DriveGuard  RunFlat .

 I guess you can check with some of the CVO owners that were
 chasing me or that I was following in the Valley last month to see if I had any
problems keeping up or hanging with some of the best riders I know 2 up thru the twistys.

Smoother ride   better mileage about 1/2 the braking distance better handling 
and stopping in the rain I could go on but you should get the point.

So now maybe some of experts out here that have NOT RODE DARKSIDE can list what they think is the down side.

So if you have not tried it.  Don't condemn it Because you DON"T KNOW
Remember there were Motorcycles around for MANY MANY MANY
years before there were specialty motorbike TIRES.

I Did not crash and burn and I got the COOKIES :drink: :drink: :orange: :orange:

Would you consider running a car tire on the front too? That way you can get the full benefit all the way around.
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Re: Dark Side CVO's?
« Reply #63 on: October 02, 2019, 12:24:33 PM »

Car tires on the back is old news. What I've been waiting for is someone go Full Dark Side and run car tires front and rear. Then they would NEVER have to change tires. It would be a win/win all the way around.

How about it, any Darksiders willing to go Full Dark Side?
Now's your chance Mr Riding Instructor. With your skill set and training, you'd be the best to try this out in a controlled environment. Let us know the results... We'll be patiently waiting.

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Re: Dark Side CVO's?
« Reply #64 on: October 02, 2019, 12:54:43 PM »

Now's your chance Mr Riding Instructor. With your skill set and training, you'd be the best to try this out in a controlled environment. Let us know the results... We'll be patiently waiting.

No thank you. I'm good with the way my bike is.

I ran a bike with a rear dark side through the course some years back, and both the owner and I struggled. The most difficult exercises were the ones with the bars at full lock and the bike leaned way over. But that's his choice to run his bike that way and I'm okay with that.

I'm just curious because I have never heard of one person going to the rear Dark Side and regretting it and changing it back to a motorcycle tire. They all rave about the mileage and handling. That being the case I'm just curious to know why no one has run a car tire up front, given all the benefits.
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Re: Dark Side CVO's?
« Reply #65 on: October 02, 2019, 02:37:51 PM »

Mark, maybe because most front tires last longer than the back.  I know I try to swap out the back somewhere around 15,000 miles (whether it needs it or not) while the front can go 25 to 30,000.  I do a LOT of interstate riding but my bikes get quite a bit in the twisties, too.  The wear/cost benefits for a car tire on the front wouldn't be worth it to me but the wear and cost for the rear would.  Isn't that why the folks do ride the dark side on the back anyway?

You are correct though on the folks that swap not going back to motorcycle tires...interesting
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Re: Dark Side CVO's?
« Reply #66 on: October 02, 2019, 03:28:57 PM »

Mark, maybe because most front tires last longer than the back.  I know I try to swap out the back somewhere around 15,000 miles (whether it needs it or not) while the front can go 25 to 30,000.  I do a LOT of interstate riding but my bikes get quite a bit in the twisties, too.  The wear/cost benefits for a car tire on the front wouldn't be worth it to me but the wear and cost for the rear would.  Isn't that why the folks do ride the dark side on the back anyway?

You are correct though on the folks that swap not going back to motorcycle tires...interesting

Interesting point about the mileage, I know I change out two rears to one front. I guess when a DarkSider does finally wear out a front motorcycle tire, they should go Dark up front too. And with the cost of quality motorcycle tires these days, it make would sense to put a car tire up front. Pay once, cry once, and expect 100,000 miles out of a Dark front tire.

Now that's a savings over a lifetime of riding. Why wouldn't a DarkSider do it?
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Re: Dark Side CVO's?
« Reply #67 on: October 02, 2019, 06:01:33 PM »

There are bunch guys running double dark. The problem I see It is harder to find the
 correct size tire for the front. Some are using a rear on the front for better mileage.
I have been reading and following darkside for 10 years or more. I thought it
was a good time to try it. I have been going thru 2 tires a year at 300 plus each. 
The tire I put on cost me 150 mounted and should get 30 to 40000 miles. I am still searching for the DOWN Side.
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Re: Dark Side CVO's?
« Reply #68 on: October 02, 2019, 06:42:33 PM »

There are bunch guys running double dark. The problem I see It is harder to find the
 correct size tire for the front. Some are using a rear on the front for better mileage.
I have been reading and following darkside for 10 years or more. I thought it
was a good time to try it. I have been going thru 2 tires a year at 300 plus each. 
The tire I put on cost me 150 mounted and should get 30 to 40000 miles. I am still searching for the DOWN Side.

Hopefully you will find a car tire to fit up front and be able to run double dark too.
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Re: Dark Side CVO's?
« Reply #69 on: October 02, 2019, 07:34:37 PM »

There are bunch guys running double dark. The problem I see It is harder to find the
 correct size tire for the front. Some are using a rear on the front for better mileage.
I have been reading and following darkside for 10 years or more. I thought it
was a good time to try it. I have been going thru 2 tires a year at 300 plus each. 
The tire I put on cost me 150 mounted and should get 30 to 40000 miles. I am still searching for the DOWN Side.
Just do a fat tire up front with the Native Baggers 180 kit.

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Re: Dark Side CVO's?
« Reply #70 on: October 02, 2019, 07:49:03 PM »

Mike

I have been looking at that.
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Re: Dark Side CVO's?
« Reply #71 on: October 02, 2019, 10:42:23 PM »

Just do a fat tire up front with the Native Baggers 180 kit.

But doesn’t that circumvent the whole DarkSide? I mean if you run a fat 180 motorcycle tire up front instead of a car tire then you’re just using a fat motorcycle tire. It’s not really a Double Dark Side. He wouldn’t get all the benefit of running a car tire up front like all the other DD riders.

With all the SmartCars, sub compact cars, micro cars, there’s gotta be a small car tire that will fit the front wheel of a Harley.
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Re: Dark Side CVO's?
« Reply #72 on: October 03, 2019, 07:09:48 AM »

OBB, YOU NEED TO GO FOR A RIDE!  :drink:
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Re: Dark Side CVO's?
« Reply #73 on: October 03, 2019, 01:38:34 PM »

OBB, YOU NEED TO GO FOR A RIDE!  :drink:
I did ride to work this morning.

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« Reply #74 on: October 03, 2019, 08:06:22 PM »

I did ride to work this morning.

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May I suggest take the scenic route.  :orange:
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