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[cpm83]

I notice clunky noises when I shut my motor off.  I have 6800 miles on a 2012 Softail Convertible. Could a bad compensator cause this noise?  I don`t notice any unusual noises on startup or while riding.

[smenard415]

Hell the adhesive is bad enough but the 07-10 touring and trikes require a new rotor assembly for $105.00

SteveM

[Twolanerider]

Hell the adhesive is bad enough but the 07-10 touring and trikes require a new rotor assembly for $105.00

SteveM

When first saw the pictures of the new comp kit realized that was going to be needed too.  Hadn't noticed it on the printed specs but the part itself makes it clear.  The 06 (stand alone year for the rotor) is flat on its face.  So is the rotor used on the 2011 and newer bikes.  But the years from 07-10 have a rotor with a bigger piece of the compensator that is part of the rotor itself.  Can't use that with the new comp kit. 

[tennisman]

My 08 FLHTCUSE3 lost its original compensator at 30,000 miles; lost it's 2nd compensator at 76,000 miles.  Am now at 92,000 miles and all is quiet BUT, every primary change (5,000 miles) yields a lot of iron on the magnetic drain plug (always has - far different than my '96 Heritage Softail).  The last compensator had a revised design (p/n 40296-06A).
One thing I did when my previous comp was failing is as soon as I turned the ignition ON, I quickly hit the starter and held it in until I was SURE the engine fired off.  This seemed to minimize the kickbacks I was getting when the comp was failing.  So I continued the practice with the current comp.  So far, okay.  ALSO, it has been reported that on engine shutdown, some hear loud clunking noise.  That IS the sound of a failing comp.  I heard it on my last failing comp.  I do not have that sound at present, but the iron coming out says there is high wear occuring in the primary, and I'm sure it's the comp.
I have a Kawasaki with a 125 cube motor, dynoed at 136 ft-lb torque, and it has a comp in the driveline.  Never had an issue in 73,000 miles so far.  So, what gives Harley??

[timo482]

the harley is a 45 deg twin and the kaw is a balanced 4

the 45 twin is very uneven, especially at very low rpm

if you think about it, one of the most reliable hd engines is the 45 - the current engine each cylinder is larger than the entire engine.

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[tennisman]

Timo:
WRONG, my Kaw is NOT a V-4;my Kaw is the Vulcan VN2000, a balanced V-twin, 125 cube motor (2053cc), single pin crank, water-cooled heads, air-cooled cylinders.  Check it out: http://www.mbike.com/kawasaki/vn2000/2006

I have the shop manual and it does have a compensator in its primary drive.

[reg26]

Well I bought one for %20 off thru Kutter Harley with free delivery and unpacked it this morning to do the install and low and behold there is an installation kit part # 11100088 that is available to dealers only! (you think the guy woulda told me that when I ordered it) At least that what it says in the install directions. The kit contains the adhesive used to glue the plasic part onto the primary cover. Soooo I guess I'll call Kutter back and see if he will sell it to me if not I'm thinking about installing the previous style one I installed 12000 mi ago. He offerd me one of those at $180 delivered. I plan on purchasing a 2015 Harley so it will hopefully last me till next August. I thought about buying a new primary but I don't feel like spending another $300 bucks just for something that I only need for a year
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[Twolanerider]

Well I bought one for %20 off thru Kutter Harley with free delivery and unpacked it this morning to do the install and low and behold there is an installation kit part # 11100088 that is available to dealers only! (you think the guy woulda told me that when I ordered it) At least that what it says in the install directions. The kit contains the adhesive used to glue the plasic part onto the primary cover. Soooo I guess I'll call Kutter back and see if he will sell it to me if not I'm thinking about installing the previous style one I installed 12000 mi ago. He offerd me one of those at $180 delivered. I plan on purchasing a 2015 Harley so it will hopefully last me till next August. I thought about buying a new primary but I don't feel like spending another $300 bucks just for something that I only need for a year
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The "installation kit" part number you list above is the part number that shows on the Harley website as being for the adhesive kit.  There is now an official bit of confusion and/or contradiction.

[reg26]

It says its a dealer only part but anyone can buy it as I now know. $33 bucks from Kutter here
http://www.kutterharleyonline.com/harley/11100088

Wish I knew what kind of adhesive it was. The more I think about gluing a plastic part in my primary the more I'm thinking about just getting a 2014 primary and just ebaying my original one. After looking on ebay looks like a hundred bucks for a great condition one would sell pretty quickly and I'll have peace of mind. I'm confident to wrench on my bike but just a little leery about just that part.

[North Georgia Hawg]

It says its a dealer only part but anyone can buy it as I now know. $33 bucks from Kutter here
http://www.kutterharleyonline.com/harley/11100088

Wish I knew what kind of adhesive it was. The more I think about gluing a plastic part in my primary the more I'm thinking about just getting a 2014 primary and just ebaying my original one. After looking on ebay looks like a hundred bucks for a great condition one would sell pretty quickly and I'll have peace of mind. I'm confident to wrench on my bike but just a little leery about just that part.

That's what I will do when I need this new comp. Can't believe they want $33 for that little glue kit...

I repeat... NOTHING will EVER get GLUED inside of Honey Badger's primary!

Ken

[mjb765]

That's what I will do when I need this new comp. Can't believe they want $33 for that little glue kit...

I repeat... NOTHING will EVER get GLUED inside of Honey Badger's primary!

Ken

Agreed...When I open it up to check on my comp since I think I am hearing the noise, if I replace with the new style it will also get a new outer primary cover.

[Twolanerider]

That's a $350 primary cover.....

[North Georgia Hawg]

That's a $350 primary cover.....

True, Don. But on Honey Badger - for better or worse - that's a rounding error. In for a penny, in for a POUND...

Ken

[reg26]

That's a $350 primary cover.....

True but at %20 off your down to $280 and if you sell the old one for a hundred it still sucks but makes it a little easier to take for peace of mind

[North Georgia Hawg]

True but at %20 off your down to $280 and if you sell the old one for a hundred it still sucks but makes it a little easier to take for peace of mind

YEP! That's the way I look at it. And for a net $200 I'll do that in a heartbeat. It's a LOT better option than having pieces of plastic glued inside the primary...

Ken