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Wheel balancing with Beads vs Weights
« on: September 04, 2012, 04:55:51 PM »

I have a 2008 fxstsse2 and the wheel weight for the rear tire came off during a freeway ride. Needless to say handling became a nightmare. I am considering using tire beads to re-balance both wheels and would appreciate any input. Thanks, Metalgrind.
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Re: Wheel balancing with Beads vs Weights
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2012, 05:40:51 PM »

I have them on two bikes and will have them on the others when i change the tires they are great  , no ugly weights
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Re: Wheel balancing with Beads vs Weights
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2012, 05:45:03 PM »

I have been using beads for 2 years, no issues
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Re: Wheel balancing with Beads vs Weights
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2012, 05:47:20 PM »

I replaced the rear tire on my bike earlier this summer and added the beads for the first time and have not noticed any difference. When it is time to change the front tire I will be using the beads in that tire as well. Go for it.

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Re: Wheel balancing with Beads vs Weights
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2012, 06:26:01 PM »

I use the beads so I don't see the weights
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Re: Wheel balancing with Beads vs Weights
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2012, 10:31:19 PM »

Beads are the way to go on any wheel that doesn't have spokes. 
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Re: Wheel balancing with Beads vs Weights
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2012, 10:33:10 PM »

Front and back currently and used them on the tires prior to this set.  I will be using them on the next set.
No ugly weights to be thrown off and dent your fenders.  
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Re: Wheel balancing with Beads vs Weights
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2012, 09:16:49 AM »

When I replaced my oem wheels with Performance Machine wheels I used Dyna Beads for the first time.  Will never go back to wheel/lead weights.
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Re: Wheel balancing with Beads vs Weights
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2012, 09:28:50 AM »

OK, what in the world are you talking about "Beads"???  Maybe I've been sleeping for the past 51 years but not sure what y'all are speaking of.  If anyone would like to post a link or mention a manufacture in a future post, I would like to investigate.  Only beads I know of are love... :bananarock:
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Re: Wheel balancing with Beads vs Weights
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2012, 09:33:04 AM »

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Re: Wheel balancing with Beads vs Weights
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2012, 09:41:58 AM »

WOW!  Thanks DJ...I will look-up dyna beads.  If this works that well, say goodbye to my weights..... :bananarock:
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Re: Wheel balancing with Beads vs Weights
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2012, 11:40:36 AM »

I have changed from weights to the Dyna Beads when I had new tires and wheels put on my Ultra,  and the difference is great I would never go back..
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Re: Wheel balancing with Beads vs Weights
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2012, 11:58:27 AM »

Best place to buy Dyna Beads?

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Re: Wheel balancing with Beads vs Weights
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2012, 05:04:14 PM »

I have nothing negative to say about Dyna Beads but be aware that Dunlop has an warranty exclusion against products such as Dyna Beads.  

From the Dunlop motorcycle tire website - what is not covered:

"Tires injected with dry/liquid balancers or sealants, or in which anything other than air has been used as the supporting medium."

My dealer has a sign posted in the service area about this.  So if you had a tire warranty claim from the manuufacturer due to cupping, sidewall cracking, etc., or have an ESP claim due to puncture, cut, etc., you might run into a problem using Dyna Beads.
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Re: Wheel balancing with Beads vs Weights
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2012, 05:16:26 PM »

Still remain skeptical ...what happens to the contact patch when the tire is spinning at 60 mphisnt that causing the dyna beads to move as that spot comes into contact with the road I have seen high speed tires shown in slow motion where the contact patch at high speed barely reforms its round shape before it hits the road again ...how do dyna beads compensate for a wheel which is not true ???  make me a believer
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Re: Wheel balancing with Beads vs Weights
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2012, 11:48:52 PM »

Still remain skeptical ...what happens to the contact patch when the tire is spinning at 60 mphisnt that causing the dyna beads to move as that spot comes into contact with the road I have seen high speed tires shown in slow motion where the contact patch at high speed barely reforms its round shape before it hits the road again ...how do dyna beads compensate for a wheel which is not true ???  make me a believer

Ride my SERG, have ran them since I purchased the bike, will never use weights again........
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Re: Wheel balancing with Beads vs Weights
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2012, 03:39:41 PM »

Thanks for the input. I will be going with the beads this time around.  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Wheel balancing with Beads vs Weights
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2012, 04:30:08 PM »

I've been pleased using dyna-beads for the past few years but must note that some have found that dyna-beads will not balance a wheel/tire combo that is too far out of balance regardless of the amt. used.  spyder
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Re: Wheel balancing with Beads vs Weights
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2012, 05:28:37 PM »

Still remain skeptical ...what happens to the contact patch when the tire is spinning at 60 mphisnt that causing the dyna beads to move as that spot comes into contact with the road I have seen high speed tires shown in slow motion where the contact patch at high speed barely reforms its round shape before it hits the road again ...how do dyna beads compensate for a wheel which is not true ???  make me a believer

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Re: Wheel balancing with Beads vs Weights
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2012, 06:30:58 PM »

Still remain skeptical ...what happens to the contact patch when the tire is spinning at 60 mphisnt that causing the dyna beads to move as that spot comes into contact with the road I have seen high speed tires shown in slow motion where the contact patch at high speed barely reforms its round shape before it hits the road again ...how do dyna beads compensate for a wheel which is not true ???  make me a believer

Make yourself a believer and give them a try :nixweiss:
Or not.

As far as a wheel that is not true, you are probably correct as dyna beads will most likely not help, but then again neither would wheel weights.
Contact patch?? Isn't there always a contact patch?  Unless we are talking about Fullsac's front wheel.
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Re: Wheel balancing with Beads vs Weights
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2012, 11:35:23 AM »

After numerous cupped front & rear Dunlop tires on my 08 SERK I have come up with the following plan.  Never trust a dealer for balancing when they have to use 4 to 6 weights.  I now purchase my tires bring them to a shop and have them installed & balanced with the weights.  After they are balanced & assuming they use 1 to 2 weights I remove them at home & insall the DYNA Beads.  If they need to use 4 to 6 weights and I can't get them to make it balance better I asks for a new pack of weights and replace them using the cleaning advice that Jerry has mentioned numerous times.  The reason I reinstall the weights is to avoid them coming & doing damage.  On one occasion I had a front tire that required nothing to balance, that was my best wearing tire.  What I have learned is you either have a tire that will not balance properly or an installer that cannot balance properly.  No amount of weights or beads can correct a bad tire or a bad balancing job. 

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Re: Wheel balancing with Beads vs Weights
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2012, 12:08:23 PM »

I've been using dyna beads for years on my steer tires on my dump trucks .no problems whatsoever. I have even taken the beads out and reinstalled in new tires when replacing tires. a brand called Equal works just as well.
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