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Title: Harley-Davidson officially spins off new electric bicycle company
Post by: GregKhougaz on October 27, 2020, 01:57:16 PM
Well, since the motorcycle business is not going very well:

Harley-Davidson officially spins off new electric bicycle company  (https://electrek.co/2020/10/27/harley-davidson-spins-off-new-electric-bicycle-company-serial-1-cycle-company/amp/)
Title: Re: Harley-Davidson officially spins off new electric bicycle company
Post by: iski on October 27, 2020, 02:12:32 PM
Interesting. 

No answers to the Power? Battery Capacity? Price? questions. 
Title: Re: Harley-Davidson officially spins off new electric bicycle company
Post by: Twolanerider on October 27, 2020, 02:58:37 PM
Initial price point is projected to be $33,846 plus $895 PDI and $500 dealer docs fee with $90 upcharge for nitrogen for the tires.
Title: Re: Harley-Davidson officially spins off new electric bicycle company
Post by: GregKhougaz on October 27, 2020, 03:38:45 PM
Quote from: Twolanerider on October 27, 2020, 02:58:37 PM
Initial price point is projected to be $33,846 plus $895 PDI and $500 dealer docs fee with $90 upcharge for nitrogen for the tires.

LMAO but for the fact you're probably right!
Title: Re: Harley-Davidson officially spins off new electric bicycle company
Post by: mark on October 27, 2020, 04:31:16 PM
I don’t want to be the Negative Nancy here, but if I wanted an electric bike, I’d buy from an established bicycle manufacturer, like Trek, Specialized, etc.  What happens when HD stops making these and you need a part?  Plus, I can’t imagine what these will cost compared to the competition.   
Title: Re: Harley-Davidson officially spins off new electric bicycle company
Post by: mjb765 on October 27, 2020, 06:37:15 PM
Quote from: Twolanerider on October 27, 2020, 02:58:37 PM
Initial price point is projected to be $33,846 plus $895 PDI and $500 dealer docs fee with $90 upcharge for nitrogen for the tires.

And if you don't get your air from a dealer it will void the warranty
Title: Re: Harley-Davidson officially spins off new electric bicycle company
Post by: Twolanerider on October 27, 2020, 07:39:20 PM
Quote from: mjb765 on October 27, 2020, 06:37:15 PM
And if you don't get your air from a dealer it will void the warranty


True.  And we forgot to mention the "Neighborhood Compliance Requirement for Nitrogen Usage."  The NCRNU stipulates that if you don't use Harley branded nitrogen (HA or Hot Air) your warranty is voided as is the warranty of everyone in your neighborhood; for all bicycles, motorcycles, refrigerators and toaster ovens.  It is a broadly applied regimen.
Title: Re: Harley-Davidson officially spins off new electric bicycle company
Post by: iski on October 28, 2020, 07:10:51 AM
Sneak peak info from the grandson of the Harley pool guy, who runs sweeps out a used bicycle shop in Des Moines... 

All rumors on the nitrogen are verifiably true, because they were on the internet & read.

Some current electric bike brands will allow throttle assist up to 28 mph or more.  The Harley will be Speed Limited to 14 mph.  Or 10 mph for the non CVO option. Weight will be 214 pounds, a tad heavier than the average electric bike.  Range will be 5-6 miles under power, with the key words here being "under power."  Turning radius will be just under 20 feet.

There is a GPS option for an additional $2599. based on the award winning, customer acclaimed, all around perfect GTS system that is considered Best in Field by the HD folks that approved the GTS specs for their dino powered bikes. The rumor that the jiffy stand will also be fully electrically powered is under investigation but doubtful because it would cut battery life by 50%.
Title: Re: Harley-Davidson officially spins off new electric bicycle company
Post by: ultrarider123 on October 28, 2020, 07:15:16 AM
Quote from: Mark on October 27, 2020, 04:31:16 PM
I don’t want to be the Negative Nancy here, but if I wanted an electric bike, I’d buy from an established bicycle manufacturer, like Trek, Specialized, etc.  What happens when HD stops making these and you need a part?  Plus, I can’t imagine what these will cost compared to the competition.

All very good points, Mark.

I'll ask the question. 

Why? 

Because we all know just how well the MoCo does when it ventures into realms they are not accustom too.  I'm guessing this is why there's no money for a redesigned touring frame and/or they decided to drop 5 or more models from the line-up.  Gotta use that development money for these new-fangled doo-dads...

....and you kids stay off my lawn...
Title: Re: Harley-Davidson officially spins off new electric bicycle company
Post by: Ironhorse on October 28, 2020, 07:21:56 AM
It's voodoo business,

When no one wants to, or can afford to buy the overpriced under-engineered motorcycles you have to look at other options. So now in addition to shirts, hats, bangles and trinkets, the customers who cannot afford an HD can afford "the next best thing" an HD bicycle.

Nothing says "2020" like an HD bicycle.

Mark
Title: Re: Harley-Davidson officially spins off new electric bicycle company
Post by: Twolanerider on October 28, 2020, 10:07:06 AM
First actual publicly available model of the new bicycle will be the, "Buell-Aermacchi Vintage Edition."
Title: Re: Harley-Davidson officially spins off new electric bicycle company
Post by: JCZ on October 28, 2020, 10:41:56 AM
It appears to be a collector's item.  It's not practical or functional where most ebike owners are concerned.

We have a couple of fat tire ebikes that we ride here in the desert.....fenders, suspension, speedometer/odometer, battery gauge, head light/tailight, luggage rack, etc.
Title: Re: Harley-Davidson officially spins off new electric bicycle company
Post by: mark on October 28, 2020, 11:38:24 AM
Quote from: Haird on October 28, 2020, 07:15:16 AM
All very good points, Mark.

I'll ask the question. 

Why? 

Because we all know just how well the MoCo does when it ventures into realms they are not accustom too.  I'm guessing this is why there's no money for a redesigned touring frame and/or they decided to drop 5 or more models from the line-up.  Gotta use that development money for these new-fangled doo-dads...

....and you kids stay off my lawn...
I am truly baffled by the executive team running HD...the old adage “fiddling while Rome burns” comes to mind.  An overpriced under performing electric motorcycle that won’t sell, a naked sport bike (apparently canceled), an adventure bike, and now an electric bicycle.  Stick with what you know and work to improve it.  There’s a reason we don’t see Ford making golf carts or Apple making kitchen appliances.
Title: Re: Harley-Davidson officially spins off new electric bicycle company
Post by: tazmun on October 29, 2020, 01:32:12 PM
Quote from: JCZ on October 28, 2020, 10:41:56 AM
It appears to be a collector's item.  It's not practical or functional where most ebike owners are concerned.

We have a couple of fat tire ebikes that we ride here in the desert.....fenders, suspension, speedometer/odometer, battery gauge, head light/tailight, luggage rack, etc.
What's the brand name  JC?
Title: Harley,s new Ebike
Post by: longlast on October 29, 2020, 09:09:11 PM
But it's a solo  ;D

https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/27/21536726/harley-davidson-serial-1-electric-bike-ebike-specs-price
Title: Re: Harley,s new Ebike
Post by: iski on October 29, 2020, 11:19:30 PM
6 volt model runs on 4 AAA batteries, 12 volt model runs on 8 AA batteries?   :nixweiss:
Title: Re: Harley-Davidson officially spins off new electric bicycle company
Post by: GregKhougaz on January 05, 2021, 10:48:09 AM

This is confounding. Harley has cheapened the production model and managed to disappoint the press before the model is even released.

Op-Ed: The New Harley-Davidson Serial 1 E-Bike Is Bullsh*t (https://cleantechnica.com/2021/01/04/op-ed-the-new-harley-davidson-serial-1-e-bike-is-bullsht/amp/)
Title: Re: Harley,s new Ebike
Post by: porthole on January 05, 2021, 12:20:37 PM
Quote from: iski on October 29, 2020, 11:19:30 PM
6 volt model runs on 4 AAA batteries, 12 volt model runs on 8 AA batteries?   :nixweiss:

Sure beats the battery requirements on the new Mercedes E snl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k1tbf8muMc&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Harley-Davidson officially spins off new electric bicycle company
Post by: porthole on January 05, 2021, 12:21:07 PM
Quote from: JCZ on October 28, 2020, 10:41:56 AM
We have a couple of fat tire ebikes that we ride here in the desert.....fenders, suspension, speedometer/odometer, battery gauge, head light/tailight, luggage rack, etc.

JC, are those Rad bikes?
Title: Re: Harley,s new Ebike
Post by: iski on January 05, 2021, 12:36:15 PM
Quote from: porthole on January 05, 2021, 12:20:37 PM
Sure beats the battery requirements on the new Mercedes E snl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k1tbf8muMc&feature=emb_logo

 ;D 
Title: Re: Harley,s new Ebike
Post by: JCZ on January 05, 2021, 05:04:07 PM
Quote from: longlast on October 29, 2020, 09:09:11 PM
But it's a solo  ;D

https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/27/21536726/harley-davidson-serial-1-electric-bike-ebike-specs-price

Rad Power Bikes is the mfg.  The model that we have is the Rover.  An entry level ebike that was the number one selling ebike at the time that we bought them a little over a year ago.

https://www.radpowerbikes.com/pages/electric-bikes?utm_source=Google%20Search&utm_medium=Brand&utm_campaign=B%20-%20Rad%20Power%20Bikes%20-%20Exact&g_acctid=717-180-1645&g_campaign=B%20-%20Rad%20Power%20Bikes%20-%20Exact&g_campaignid=9021516147&g_adgroupid=89303138777&g_adid=477369827023&g_keyword=rad%20power%20bikes&g_keywordid=kwd-773593115201&g_network=g&gclid=CjwKCAiAudD_BRBXEiwAudakX6kjtRTKTYaNsK_-MjzAGQ8BMjavZNEpWNPi4YEFMCEl9Xxf6avxfhoC08UQAvD_BwE
Title: Re: Harley-Davidson officially spins off new electric bicycle company
Post by: JCZ on January 05, 2021, 05:05:16 PM
Quote from: porthole on January 05, 2021, 12:21:07 PM
JC, are those Rad bikes?

Yes.... Rad Rovers

   https://www.radpowerbikes.com/pages/electric-bikes?utm_source=Google%20Search&utm_medium=Brand&utm_campaign=B%20-%20Rad%20Power%20Bikes%20-%20Exact&g_acctid=717-180-1645&g_campaign=B%20-%20Rad%20Power%20Bikes%20-%20Exact&g_campaignid=9021516147&g_adgroupid=89303138777&g_adid=477369827023&g_keyword=rad%20power%20bikes&g_keywordid=kwd-773593115201&g_network=g&gclid=CjwKCAiAudD_BRBXEiwAudakX6kjtRTKTYaNsK_-MjzAGQ8BMjavZNEpWNPi4YEFMCEl9Xxf6avxfhoC08UQAvD_BwE