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CVO Technical => Intake/Exhaust/ECM => Topic started by: rayson56 on January 04, 2021, 06:36:43 PM

Title: External Breather Install
Post by: rayson56 on January 04, 2021, 06:36:43 PM
I had a rare day off today and since it's not exactly riding weather here in Washington I decided to tackle what appeared to be a fairly nominal task. After seeing several suggestions on this site and researching on the internet and U toob It was time to take my Ventilator A/C off again and do what I hope is another upgrade.

I started by removing the little breather hoses that route that nasty hot oil vapor from the breather bolts in the  heads back into the throttle body, then marked and removed the backing plate so that I could drill a couple of 1/2" holes in it for re-routing to the out side of the A/C.

After drilling and cleaning up the holes I put a couple of rubber grommets in them for a clean and tight fit.

Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: rayson56 on January 04, 2021, 06:39:28 PM
Then ran some 1/4" vacuum line through to a T on the backside.

Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: rayson56 on January 04, 2021, 06:40:40 PM
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Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: rayson56 on January 04, 2021, 06:49:13 PM
Then I ran a piece of 3/8" out and down under the bike. I chose not to use a filter or catch can at least for now, so we'll see if that changes after a few rides. The cost of this upgrade was under $10.

Also the video that I got most of my info from was this one;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23XS_5f_t_o
Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: rayson56 on January 04, 2021, 06:50:42 PM
Here is a pick of the finished product;

Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: rayson56 on January 04, 2021, 06:51:42 PM
Another

Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: rayson56 on January 04, 2021, 06:52:43 PM
One more

Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: rayson56 on January 04, 2021, 06:57:32 PM
I really wasn't crazy about having a tube running down the side of my motor but until I come up with a more discrete
or cleaner way to route my line, this'll have to do.
Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: CVODON on January 06, 2021, 06:02:10 PM
I agree don't like the look of a rubber hose running down the side of the engine but I also would think you'd need a catch can somewhere to keep oily residue from blowing back onto the bottom of the bike. I definitely don't want residue all over the bike underside & dripping on the garage floor like in the '70's.
Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: CVO Couple on January 06, 2021, 06:32:31 PM
Braided stainless line for ascetics. 


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Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: HOGMIKE on January 06, 2021, 06:54:43 PM
One more

I ran two short lengths of plastic hose behind the backing plate into a T then forward and down under the engine.
See if it’s noticeable with a similar picture.
It’s been on for about 1000 miles no drips from the filter on the end.......yet.
 8)
Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: rayson56 on January 07, 2021, 12:05:33 AM
Started out for a test ride after work today since the weather was cooperating and while waiting for a traffic light about a half mile from home some dumb b***h in a beater ran in to me from behind. !@#$%&

No major damage, rear fender and some other items will need to be replaced and I didn't go down but it sure ruined my week. So I didn't get the opportunity to check out the breather system. Guess that's the least of my worries at the moment.
Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: FLSTFI Dave on January 07, 2021, 07:00:52 AM
Glad you didn't go down and are not hurt.   That really sucks, let me guess beater had no insurance.

I know when I got hit, the itch did not have insurance.
Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: CVO Couple on January 07, 2021, 07:21:41 AM
Anyone using one of the kits that route the fittings and hoses upwards toward the tank so theoretically the oil solids will run back into the heads?


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Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: rayson56 on January 07, 2021, 12:32:40 PM
Anyone using one of the kits that route the fittings and hoses upwards toward the tank so theoretically the oil solids will run back into the heads?


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I would be very interested in this information if you would be so kind as to pass it on to me. Getting it out of my Ventilator as I did was the big thing but now that I have everything bypassed, what I do with it, is the million dollar question.


Yeah Dave thanks for your kind words. I just got off the phone with her insurance co. (Travelers) and she apparently has coverage. Next is to go and get an estimate at my local dealer and get the ball rolling. Harley painted parts.....oh boy, hurry up and wait, but you know all about this, huh Dave?!
Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: michaelokielee@yahoo.com on January 07, 2021, 01:48:38 PM
Started out for a test ride after work today since the weather was cooperating and while waiting for a traffic light about a half mile from home some dumb b***h in a beater ran in to me from behind. !@#$%&

No major damage, rear fender and some other items will need to be replaced and I didn't go down but it sure ruined my week. So I didn't get the opportunity to check out the breather system. Guess that's the least of my worries at the moment.

Glad you are not hurt brother!
Title: External Breather Install
Post by: CVO Couple on January 07, 2021, 02:37:56 PM
I would be very interested in this information if you would be so kind as to pass it on to me. Getting it out of my Ventilator as I did was the big thing but now that I have everything bypassed, what I do with it, is the million dollar question.

It involves using Kuryakyn 9932 or 9930 breather fittings and modifying your existing air filter backing plate for clearance and blocking off unnecessary holes. I’ll keep looking for the procedure that was done on a Twin Cam.  Another way I saw it done was drilling and tapping the breather bosses for 1/8 pipe thread hose fittings.

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Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: rayson56 on January 07, 2021, 07:52:21 PM
Glad you are not hurt brother!

Thanks Michael


It involves using Kuryakyn 9932 or 9930 breather fittings and modifying your existing air filter backing plate for clearance and blocking off unnecessary holes. I’ll keep looking for the procedure that was done on a Twin Cam.  Another way I saw it done was drilling and tapping the breather bosses for 1/8 pipe thread hose fittings.

Thank you, this site is amazing.
Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: FELIX on May 26, 2021, 07:45:28 PM
this is exactly what I want to do with mine. 2020 SG

did you ever decide to change up the routing of the oil

are you happy with this modification?
Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: rayson56 on May 27, 2021, 03:43:57 PM
Still using my original design and it seems to work extremely well. I'm changing my backing plate to the K&N ventilator kit after a minor message by Paul at Fuel Moto and some gloss black powder coating though to facilitate my upcoming build that will include a 64mm throttle body.
Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: FELIX on May 27, 2021, 03:56:48 PM
Thank you
So the drain line is rooted forward and down, and you're not noticing much if any oil?  is there a filter on the end?  My motor has so much oil, I know its new and it might take a bit to seal up but I dont want that going into my cylinders to bake onto the piston tops.
Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: rayson56 on May 27, 2021, 07:40:52 PM
Nope, down and back. Don't overfill your oil. Always check it after it's good and hot and give it a few minutes to cool/drain down and never fill all the way to the hot line or it will burp oil unnecessarily.

Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: rayson56 on May 27, 2021, 07:42:55 PM
Here is a pic.

Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: FELIX on May 27, 2021, 07:45:31 PM
Thank-you.
I am definatly going to do this very soon.
Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: HOGMIKE on May 27, 2021, 09:49:57 PM
I ran mine up front to under the engine. Wanted to hide it a little bit better.
 8)
Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: HOGMIKE on May 27, 2021, 09:51:03 PM
One more….
Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: FELIX on May 27, 2021, 09:58:51 PM
Did you put a filter or something on the end or just let it free, if you do capture the oil, about how much h comes out.
Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: rayson56 on May 27, 2021, 10:40:54 PM
I ran mine up front to under the engine. Wanted to hide it a little bit better.
 8)

I agree Mike, that does look a little cleaner.
Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: HOGMIKE on May 28, 2021, 08:03:46 AM
Did you put a filter or something on the end or just let it free, if you do capture the oil, about how much h comes out.


I had an old filter that fit the tubing and I shoot a little carb cleaner on it every 5000 miles when I have it on the lift to change oils. Never had any oil drips on the floor.
Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: HOGMIKE on May 28, 2021, 08:09:14 AM
My green bike has a little more complicated vent system that goes into a catch can and after going through a breather screen, out the back of the bike.
Title: Re: External Breather Install
Post by: FELIX on May 28, 2021, 08:39:52 AM
Hi, that looks great thanks for the information and the picture.