Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

Author Topic: Barnett Scorpion Clutch Steel Plates  (Read 499 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

ltank

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1191
    • LA

    • CVO1: 2000 FXR4 S&S V111, CustomS.S. 2-1 exhaust, Primo-Rivera OD 6 speed, 49mm Custom Front End Ohlins 30mm Fork cartridges , Hyperpro Shocks, Barnett Scorpian Clutch
    • CVO2: 1983 88" Shovelhead Won the World of Wheels 1985 Sept 85 Issue of Hot Bike Mag
    • CVO3: 1989 FXRS, 1990 Custom 100" Shovelhead/ EVO
Barnett Scorpion Clutch Steel Plates
« on: March 05, 2021, 03:51:16 PM »

I have an older Barnett Scorpion Clutch for 98-06 BT.
608-30-10098.  With Two sets of clutch plates. The Instructions call for ten .051 steel plates. Problem is that there appears to be at least two different thickness that's obvious by looking, feeling and micrometer. On other clutches there's a thicker one at the hub and one at the pressure plate but the instructions doesn't say anything about it. Has anyone installed a Scorpion Clutch and have answers
that isn't available? Thanks
Logged

ltank

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1191
    • LA

    • CVO1: 2000 FXR4 S&S V111, CustomS.S. 2-1 exhaust, Primo-Rivera OD 6 speed, 49mm Custom Front End Ohlins 30mm Fork cartridges , Hyperpro Shocks, Barnett Scorpian Clutch
    • CVO2: 1983 88" Shovelhead Won the World of Wheels 1985 Sept 85 Issue of Hot Bike Mag
    • CVO3: 1989 FXRS, 1990 Custom 100" Shovelhead/ EVO
Re: Barnett Scorpion Clutch Steel Plates
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2021, 04:04:19 PM »

You can see the differences in the pics. The .051 are the thinner plates. They are all the same diameter with the same inside circumference and all the teeth are a perfect match on all plates?
Logged

ltank

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1191
    • LA

    • CVO1: 2000 FXR4 S&S V111, CustomS.S. 2-1 exhaust, Primo-Rivera OD 6 speed, 49mm Custom Front End Ohlins 30mm Fork cartridges , Hyperpro Shocks, Barnett Scorpian Clutch
    • CVO2: 1983 88" Shovelhead Won the World of Wheels 1985 Sept 85 Issue of Hot Bike Mag
    • CVO3: 1989 FXRS, 1990 Custom 100" Shovelhead/ EVO
Re: Barnett Scorpion Clutch Steel Plates
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2021, 04:13:03 PM »

More instructions
Logged

ltank

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1191
    • LA

    • CVO1: 2000 FXR4 S&S V111, CustomS.S. 2-1 exhaust, Primo-Rivera OD 6 speed, 49mm Custom Front End Ohlins 30mm Fork cartridges , Hyperpro Shocks, Barnett Scorpian Clutch
    • CVO2: 1983 88" Shovelhead Won the World of Wheels 1985 Sept 85 Issue of Hot Bike Mag
    • CVO3: 1989 FXRS, 1990 Custom 100" Shovelhead/ EVO
Re: Barnett Scorpion Clutch Steel Plates
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2021, 04:14:26 PM »

More instructions
Logged

motor1

  • Elite CVO Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 611
  • Current Harley: 2015 FLTRUSE

    • CVO1: 2015 FLTRUSE
Re: Barnett Scorpion Clutch Steel Plates
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2021, 06:29:34 AM »

My first dumb question:
Are you in the process of attempting to install them or are you just cleaning up the garage?
If you are doing an install (replacing Barnett for Barnett) compare and possible reuse the steels from the old clutch pack.
If you want to install (as is) find spec for installed height, match to old pack (take into account friction wear of old plates) install and insure you have proper disengagement before you fill with oil and seal her up.
Hope it go's well for you.
Logged

ltank

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1191
    • LA

    • CVO1: 2000 FXR4 S&S V111, CustomS.S. 2-1 exhaust, Primo-Rivera OD 6 speed, 49mm Custom Front End Ohlins 30mm Fork cartridges , Hyperpro Shocks, Barnett Scorpian Clutch
    • CVO2: 1983 88" Shovelhead Won the World of Wheels 1985 Sept 85 Issue of Hot Bike Mag
    • CVO3: 1989 FXRS, 1990 Custom 100" Shovelhead/ EVO
Re: Barnett Scorpion Clutch Steel Plates
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2021, 08:53:50 PM »

I plan to swap clutches from FXR4 V111 Scorpion clutch to Road King S&S V124 Baker 9 plate street clutch. The Baker Clutch with light spring is too weak
For motor, the race diaphragm spring has caused damage to my left thumb. There's no other springs to fit the Baker and there aren't any Variable Pressure Plates for it. So I was going to swap them out.
There are Variable Pressure Plate for the Scorpion
Logged

Unbalanced

  • FUD Examiner
  • 5k CVO Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6707

    • CVO1: 2011 SESG,
    • CVO2: 2004 SEEG Pumpkin,
    • CVO3: 2002 Police Roadking, Maudie and Maybelle Slayer
Barnett Scorpion Clutch Steel Plates
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2021, 09:08:22 PM »

I plan to swap clutches from FXR4 V111 Scorpion clutch to Road King S&S V124 Baker 9 plate street clutch. The Baker Clutch with light spring is too weak
For motor, the race diaphragm spring has caused damage to my left thumb. There's no other springs to fit the Baker and there aren't any Variable Pressure Plates for it. So I was going to swap them out.
There are Variable Pressure Plate for the Scorpion
I have the scorpion in my RK - 167 hp, recommend you get the owner of Barnett (Mike) and have him send you the bigger first ring - mine was squealing and lurching until we changed it out.   Was easy to deal with but I couldn’t launch the bike with any power.  Now it’s great
« Last Edit: March 06, 2021, 11:01:07 PM by Unbalanced »
Logged
HBRR Florida Chapter,  STILL - The Fastest Chapter - Proven yet again Bikeweek 2017

ltank

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1191
    • LA

    • CVO1: 2000 FXR4 S&S V111, CustomS.S. 2-1 exhaust, Primo-Rivera OD 6 speed, 49mm Custom Front End Ohlins 30mm Fork cartridges , Hyperpro Shocks, Barnett Scorpian Clutch
    • CVO2: 1983 88" Shovelhead Won the World of Wheels 1985 Sept 85 Issue of Hot Bike Mag
    • CVO3: 1989 FXRS, 1990 Custom 100" Shovelhead/ EVO
Re: Barnett Scorpion Clutch Steel Plates
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2021, 12:35:21 AM »

I have a bigger 1st ring fiber plate that's in perfect condition as far as I can tell. I bought second set of plates years ago as spare and never used them yet.
Maybe you can answer another question for me.
I am wanting to buy a Barnett 84 tooth Clutch Basket
But I don't know what pinon gear it uses. A 9 or 10 tooth. EVO IND has a Clutch basket that's looks identical to the Barnett that uses a 10 tooth pinon.
My Baker 84 tooth uses a 9 tooth pinon gear. You would think that if both Clutch basket starter ring gears were 84 tooth they would use the same number of teeth on the pinon gears? Don't Figure!
Logged

Unbalanced

  • FUD Examiner
  • 5k CVO Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6707

    • CVO1: 2011 SESG,
    • CVO2: 2004 SEEG Pumpkin,
    • CVO3: 2002 Police Roadking, Maudie and Maybelle Slayer
Re: Barnett Scorpion Clutch Steel Plates
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2021, 02:54:10 AM »

ITank,

Sorry I cant recall if it is a 9 or 10 tooth, I do know I bought the larger strong ring gear and pinion gear.  Saved a lot of broken teeth along with the 1400 starter.   

I was not referring to the plates behind the plates is a dampener spring there are 2 sizes of them the smaller didn’t hold the motor, took a while to figure out the cause so we used the one from the hydraulic clutch setup and that was the ticket.

Barnett was super in helping figure it out.  Originally they thought it was stack height, so they sent me a new clutch pack,  one launch with a little power and we knew we still had an issue so Mike said let’s try the larger Dampener,   2-3 days later we tore back into it and it’s been perfect since.

Hope you get yours squared away.
Logged
HBRR Florida Chapter,  STILL - The Fastest Chapter - Proven yet again Bikeweek 2017
 

Page created in 0.121 seconds with 20 queries.