Topic: GPS Navigation CD update (Read 6378 times)

theslash · « **on:** July 21, 2007, 05:07:42 PM »

Any body know any thing about a update for the Cd's My Harley dealer has this caught in the headlights look when I ask them.

bobaroni · « **Reply #1 on:** July 22, 2007, 01:00:40 AM »

Quote from: theslash on July 21, 2007, 05:07:42 PM

Any body know any thing about a update for the Cd's My Harley dealer has this caught in the headlights look when I ask them.

What have you heard about an update?

theslash · « **Reply #2 on:** July 22, 2007, 02:09:53 AM »

nothing it's like a big secret or something, I have some new roads around my home and would like to get a update.

Twolanerider · « **Reply #3 on:** July 22, 2007, 12:14:13 PM »

Quote from: theslash on July 22, 2007, 02:09:53 AM

nothing it's like a big secret or something, I have some new roads around my home and would like to get a update.

The Advanced Audio specific website makes no mention of updated data discs for sale. Harley being what they are they'd likely be selling the product if there was such a thing.

Might be that it's not a big secret. Just that no update has been released yet. Just because new roadbeds have been laid doesn't mean the publisher is going to quickly rush out new data discs.

theslash · « **Reply #4 on:** July 22, 2007, 12:57:48 PM »

The 08 seuc buyers are buying a gps system with 05 data dicks
Very poor Harley shame on them
Wow I feel so mush better

Twolanerider · « **Reply #5 on:** July 22, 2007, 01:04:24 PM »

Quote from: theslash on July 22, 2007, 12:57:48 PM

The 08 seuc buyers are buying a gps system with 05 data dicks
Very poor Harley shame on them
Wow I feel so mush better

Whose nav software is Harmon Kardon using? Garmin's or one of the others? National road updates to include every local project just isn't an every-year kind of thing. Would be nice. But it's not the norm.

mr_magoo · « **Reply #6 on:** July 22, 2007, 01:09:05 PM »

Will see what disc I get tomorrow with the 08.

theslash · « **Reply #7 on:** July 22, 2007, 01:12:45 PM »

please let me know

Quote from: mr_magoo on July 22, 2007, 01:09:05 PM

Will see what disc I get tomorrow with the 08.

mr_magoo · « **Reply #8 on:** July 22, 2007, 01:21:57 PM »

Sure will.

Fired00d · « **Reply #9 on:** July 22, 2007, 07:31:21 PM »

Quote from: Twolanerider on July 22, 2007, 01:04:24 PM

Whose nav software is Harmon Kardon using? Garmin's or one of the others? National road updates to include every local project just isn't an every-year kind of thing. Would be nice. But it's not the norm.

Garmin has City Navigator updates yearly (map software in the GPS units) at a cost ($75). Mapsource updates (software on computer to create maps/trips to load on GPS unit) are free to users that have registered the software. I was told that the minor updates in the City Navigator program may not be worth the yearly updates.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

RedDevil · « **Reply #10 on:** July 22, 2007, 09:28:43 PM »

Quote from: Twolanerider on July 22, 2007, 01:04:24 PM

Whose nav software is Harmon Kardon using? Garmin's or one of the others? National road updates to include every local project just isn't an every-year kind of thing. Would be nice. But it's not the norm.

The company that produces the disks for Harmon-Kardon is a company called Innovative Systems. The navigation/database engine though, is by the same company that does it for just about every GPS manufacturer out there; Navteq. The mapping programs typically run about 2 years behind. It's a very involved process to update a GPS database program. All new roads have to be driven and coordinates mapped into the database engine. Multiple points have to be entered to give an accurate portrayal on the screen of the road being traveled. The fact that the information on the HK disks is 2005 doesn't suprise me. I would venture a guess that HD/HK will come out with a new disk in 2008. It took three years for Alpine to put out a new one for my Honda, and Alpine hasn't come out with a new one for my 2006 Dodge pickup yet. But like d00d says, Garmin comes out with a new one pretty much every year, but even that doesn't give you the most current data. The new road outside of my housing development took about 2 years to show up on my Garmin disks.
Cheers

,

theslash · « **Reply #11 on:** July 22, 2007, 09:43:26 PM »

Thanks for the info. I hope you are right about 08 for the update. That will work for me.

Coyote. · « **Reply #12 on:** July 22, 2007, 10:21:09 PM »

I chucked my Harley nav system. The map files are so old and/or lacking that roads around here are missing that have been here for decades. It's pretty obvious that Harley/HK are not paying for good maps. I guess if you only travel major highways, it might me OK. But is that where we really ride? Not me...

I gave up on it and got a Zumo....

RJ749 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 22, 2007, 10:22:08 PM »

It's all driven by the MoCo, or the car manufacturer, if they pay to have their poprietary disc updated it will be. Otherwise NAVTEQ is in the drivers seat an you get the old disk.

NAVTEQ does three of my four manufacturers and it's a rip off IMHO.

Coyote. · « **Reply #14 on:** July 22, 2007, 11:26:25 PM »

I don't think Navtech is doing Harley's maps. Zumo, yes...

RJ749 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 22, 2007, 11:47:44 PM »

Quote from: coyotedata on July 22, 2007, 11:26:25 PM

I don't think Navtech is doing Harley's maps. Zumo, yes...

Looks like NAVTEQ to me.................

Coyote. · « **Reply #16 on:** July 23, 2007, 12:38:57 AM »

Well right you are then. That's very disappointing from Navtec. What came with my bike last Sept is pretty much useless unless you are on a major hiway. It;s bad enough the HK doesn't do maps (on the display) but bad data is even worse!

RJ749 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 23, 2007, 10:55:42 AM »

Quote from: coyotedata on July 23, 2007, 12:38:57 AM

Well right you are then. That's very disappointing from Navtec. What came with my bike last Sept is pretty much useless unless you are on a major hiway. It;s bad enough the HK doesn't do maps (on the display) but bad data is even worse!

I believe it is what the manufacturer (MoCo) is willing to pay for in upgrades, I see the NAVTEQ tracking rigs driving all over inputing the data, but unless the MoCo steps up for the upgrade with HK, we won't see it.

mr_magoo · « **Reply #18 on:** July 23, 2007, 08:13:05 PM »

The one that came with the bike I picked up today is V2.0 and has a part #76472-06A, hope that helps.

RJ749 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 23, 2007, 08:15:30 PM »

Quote from: mr_magoo on July 23, 2007, 08:13:05 PM

The one that came with the bike I picked up today is V2.0 and has a part #76472-06A, hope that helps.

That just might be the updated one, we'll have to check with a dealer.

RedDevil · « **Reply #20 on:** July 23, 2007, 09:07:50 PM »

Quote from: mr_magoo on July 23, 2007, 08:13:05 PM

The one that came with the bike I picked up today is V2.0 and has a part #76472-06A, hope that helps.

Must be an updated one. I checked mine and it's part #76472-06 Version 1. Now I have to find out if Version 2 is for sale.
Cheers

,

mr_magoo · « **Reply #21 on:** July 23, 2007, 10:17:46 PM »

If it has a part # the motor company will sell it.

Rhino · « **Reply #22 on:** July 27, 2007, 11:17:54 AM »

Hey all,

The only update I want in my 07 SEUC is the one that gives me a color screen, with a map, not the junk Harley calls a GPS.

Rhino

Sklywag · « **Reply #23 on:** August 05, 2007, 09:21:23 PM »

Quote from: theslash on July 21, 2007, 05:07:42 PM

Any body know any thing about a update for the Cd's My Harley dealer has this caught in the headlights look when I ask them.

Old long hair guy, long beard and no teeth? Ask him for points for your SEUC, he will go get you a set from the shelf without even looking them up. Doesn't have a clue it doesn't use points.

Sorry, I have had some very frustrating days at HD with my electrical problem in my 06 SEUC. It is like way too many of them have not advanced beyond about 1990 knowledge. If HD & the the Dealers are going to sell MC's with technology embeded in them they should train their people. Most of them can't even tell you what a GPS is.

UglyJohn · « **Reply #24 on:** August 13, 2007, 09:59:34 PM »

Quote from: RedDevil on July 23, 2007, 09:07:50 PM

Must be an updated one. I checked mine and it's part #76472-06 Version 1. Now I have to find out if Version 2 is for sale.
Cheers ,

Mine's the older version also, The whole GPS is total junk as far as I care. It doesn't even have streets around my area of town which has been around since the early 50's through the 70's. I can understand maybe the last 5 or 10 years, but that's just ridicules! Can't trust what it says about the location of gas stations, motels and such, including the location of HD Shops. I guess I'll buy a GPS that actually is functional. Thought by buying this SE that I wouldn't have to by much $hit....my bad. I was really looking forward to using the GPS and ride some back roads.

UglyJohn [/color]

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