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Will they have it in BLUE?

With your connections I'm sure you will know sooner than anyone else.


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[16HD117]

Nothing in writing.
A 14 year run on the 1800 is lending speculation that the 15 will be 2000cc.
Wing owners have been looking for a 6 speed for years.
Maybe it's just an optimistic expectation.
Who knows.

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Otherwise know as a WAG!  Not a SWAG.
 

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Otherwise know as a WAG!  Not a SWAG.
 

OK


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[gadgetz]

All this wing talk is making me hungry.  The only wing that's good is covered in BLUE cheese dressing.


Just sayin 

[110tHunDer]

 
See, Harley's have 6-speeds.  So, they're better.

[sinner]

I just bought the Yamaha FZ09 and it's the best bike I've ever owned. It's not without flaws but I really love the bike.  I bought the 14 CVO Breakout the day after buying the FZ09 but the Harley still has tuning issues and hasn't been a good bike.  It's at GMR right now getting sorted out.

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See, Harley's have 6-speeds.  So, they're better.

And have for 7 years!

 

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[SBB]

All this wing talk is making me hungry.  The only wing that's good is covered in BLUE cheese dressing.


Just sayin 

Keep talking!

 

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[phato1]

Well to me it seems that the moto journalists generally have had a love affair with anything european for the past few years and in CW's defense these "awards" are usually given to bikes that have been substantially redesigned or a clean sheet new model - that will usually disqualify HD right there.

BMW warrants some love for their technological advances like selectable ride modes and electronically adjustable suspension on the flagship touring model  and I admit to drooling over the S1000RR. KTM makes a great dirt bike and therefore their supermoto is superb again this one has the full electronic package. Ducati is, well, Ducati and they build some of the most beautiful sport bikes on the planet - always have.

Honda has some nice offerings, origami styling aside,  but lately seems to concentrating on developing "entry level" bikes - those under 750cc - and the wing is getting long in the tooth and due for an update, not just some cosmetic changes --oh wait they stole our playbook 

Suzuki has been sorta quiet with "new" offerings. Kawasaki is trying to build a super sport tourer with the 1400 ninja and an entry level with the ninjet 300.

Now if HD went and put electronically adjustable(or at least adjustable) suspension , selectable riding modes and an adjustable windscreen on a fully water cooled touring bike with a quality sound system/electronics package - then they would ride away with all the awards. But it seems we as faithful buyers have established that the current state of the product is what we want whether that's because of the beautiful styling, glorious sound or we just like to modify our bikes - who am I to say, for me it's a little of all three and that makes the HD offerings appear on MY list

So I guess all this rambling translates to while I don't necessarily agree with any of the moto journalists "best" lists, there are plenty of bikes out there to suit whatever your tastes, desires and riding styles are and it's up to the consumer to decide what bike is "best" for them. If your lucky like me your better/smarter half will let you keep a few different makes and models in the garage so then you can pick the one that suits your needs/mood for the days ride 

[LARK]

ok but 1 stat that is not in that article is that HD sells 55% of every bike sold in the USA and every other manufacturer  with every bike (including those 10 bikes) they make share the other 45%. I don't mean to be Polly-Anna about the Motor Co but numbers are numbers and every one on this site knows we don't have the best running/performing/technically advanced/best braking/etc bike made out there but we have all spent a tremendous amount of money to own/maintain 1/2/3/?

Harley sells 55% of all bikes 601cc and larger sold in the US not 55% of all motorcycles.

[Jswerve]

Harley sells 55% of all bikes 601cc and larger sold in the US not 55% of all motorcycles.

They sell 100% of the bikes I'll ride

[SDCVO]

Harley sells 55% of all bikes 601cc and larger sold in the US not 55% of all motorcycles.

True, my bad.. changes everything

[Phantom309]

I never valued CW's opinion and never will, all that impresses them are everything BUT Harleys.

[FLHTCUSE7]

Not a real surprise. HD does not really belong in the top 10 category in my opinion.

[CVOThunder]

Now if HD went and put electronically adjustable(or at least adjustable) suspension , selectable riding modes and an adjustable windscreen on a fully water cooled touring bike with a quality sound system/electronics package - then they would ride away with all the awards. But it seems we as faithful buyers have established that the current state of the product is what we want whether that's because of the beautiful styling, glorious sound or we just like to modify our bikes - who am I to say, for me it's a little of all three and that makes the HD offerings appear on MY list

Yeah, I need to force myself to hold off on buying another new HD until they do this. It was mentioned awhile back about making up a voting list about the water cooled engine but I guess we just have to vote with our cash. I don't mind the new Road Glide the more I look at it but I have to say no to anything new until they change more items. I still think the V-Rod design made bigger and put into the bagger design would work well. Those who don't like the change will complain but won't be able to say it's designed after the Japanese. I suspect killing the aftermarket will play a big part in all of this. Who knows what they could do on engine mods if it's already powerful and reliable. Cams and head work might be the only thing left if the case and jugs are one. Pretty crafty network out there, they'd probably come up with something.