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Rosie & Donald
« on: December 21, 2006, 09:50:44 PM »

Well don't go where I went! :-/

While sitting at the dinner table earlier watching Fox News, the story came on about Rosie & Donald. Wife said how rediculous Trump was looking and Rosie came out looking great. Bit my toungue and let that one pass. Then she mentioned Hillary was on the View the other day and she really came off good, would probably make a good president. That did it, couldn't let that one pass. I couldn't hold back, had to offer my thoughts on Rosie and then unloaded about my opinion of Hillary. ::)
AM BANISHED TO THE COUCH IN THE BASEMENT NOW! At least my dog agrees with me, he is here on the couch to comfort me. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] He's a male and I know by the way he is looking at me he is thinking why the hell didn't you just say [highlight]YES DEAR [/highlight] and let it go?
Hey kind of like Trump, could let that fat beotch get away with it. No, I not bitter.  >:( >:( >:(
Good thing she didn't bring up Oprah or I'd be banished to the backyard. ;D
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Re: Rosie & Donald
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2006, 10:00:56 PM »

MJZ,
        Believe me when I say I have no plans on voting for Hillary. I might take a look at Obama if his name were anything other than a constant reminder of who America's enemies are. But seriously, I'm hoping Rudy Guiliani decides to run. I like moderate Republicans better than moderate Democrats. It takes more guts to be a moderate Republican. Anyway, after saying all that, I have to ask what it is about Hillary that gets everyone so worked up. I have my reasons for not supporting her, but since you've already admitted to being so far to the right you're hanging onto the edge, I'd like a postcard from the edge. What is it with her that gets you so worked up ? I mean the woman is the most investigated polictican in the history of politics and what have they come up with ? Her husband can't keep his zipper zipped. But they never found a freakin thing on her. Nyet, nada, zippo and 6 years and 100 million dollars spent in the process. You seem like a very intelligent individual, so leaving emotion out of it, explain please. By the way, you don't have to explain about Rosey. Bout the best thing I can say about her is she likes women and so do I.  ;D

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Re: Rosie & Donald
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2006, 10:04:15 PM »

If my wife said that she would be sleeping on the couch!!!

Trump is way to smart for Rosie... We will see who haves the last laugh.
My guess is Trump.  And how could you mention Rosie and Hillary in the same post...that just upsets my stomach!!!  Hillary will become more and more conservative as the 2008 elections approach...and it blows my mind that people will actually by it?  Come on folks...she is even left of Bill!!!
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Re: Rosie & Donald
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2006, 10:53:36 PM »

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        Believe me when I say I have no plans on voting for Hillary. I might take a look at Obama if his name were anything other than a constant reminder of who America's enemies are. But seriously, I'm hoping Rudy Guiliani decides to run. I like moderate Republicans better than moderate Democrats. It takes more guts to be a moderate Republican. Anyway, after saying all that, I have to ask what it is about Hillary that gets everyone so worked up. I have my reasons for not supporting her, but since you've already admitted to being so far to the right you're hanging onto the edge, I'd like a postcard from the edge. What is it with her that gets you so worked up ? I mean the woman is the most investigated polictican in the history of politics and what have they come up with ? Her husband can't keep his zipper zipped. But they never found a freakin thing on her. Nyet, nada, zippo and 6 years and 100 million dollars spent in the process. You seem like a very intelligent individual, so leaving emotion out of it, explain please. By the way, you don't have to explain about Rosey. Bout the best thing I can say about her is she likes women and so do I.  ;D

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Brian I honestly think Hillary is the most controversial person in the world. There seems to be no middle ground in peoples thoughts of her, you either like and respect her or despise her, needless to say I fall in the latter. With me it started years ago, I personally know people that were employed by Hillary's representatives to investigate all of the women wild Bill nailed. Her objective was (using Arkansas tax funds) to get some dirt on these women to both intimidate and discredit. People I know and trust told me she was a total bitch. She was not the least bit upset that her husband had been unfaithful only that he was stupid enough not to be discrete. She wanted ammunition, fabricated or true, made no difference to her, to threaten these women and their families into keeping their mouths shut. These investigators were instructed to let these women know she would use the entire power of the Governors office to make both their lives and their families lives a pure hell. They were told their kids would be busted with drugs that would be planted in their cars, etc. Worst part they said were any dealings with her, they said she got the answers she wanted or would refuse to pay them. Some said they had never been cussed and berated by anyone the way she did to them. I could go on for hours about rumors but a couple of these guys were and still are deputies with me, I know what they were subjected to. All this took place years ago when Clinton was a young governor but I doubt she has changed for the better.
She is conniving, ruthless and totally without any character; the purest form of complete blind ambition with absolutely no conscience. Living here during that era, there were a million other stories about her blatant abuse of power as the Arkansas first lady. Talk to anyone, conservative or liberal, male or female, in Arkansas or west Tennessee and I'll bet you hear similar stories.
Whew, that raised my bp. I'd better get off the  [smiley=soapbox.gif] I'd better grab a brew and chill. ;D
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Re: Rosie & Donald
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2006, 12:21:07 AM »

MJZ,
      Your timing is impecable. Dick Morris said the same things on O'Reilly today. He stated that the "Hillary" machine would go after Obama harder than the Republican right. However, he also stated that the RNC would not go after Hillary because of what I stated in my earlier post about her being the most investigated individual in history. The dynamic of this should be interesting to watch. Thank you by the way for giving an answer that went beyond the usual talking points of the RNC and explained in detail why you feel the way you do. Like I said, I'm hoping Rudy Guiliani steps out off the sidelines and into the ring. He pulled NYC from the verge of bankruptcy and the country is going to need that experience to deal with the looming Social Security debacle as well as the one no one talks about with the Pension Guarantee Authority.

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Re: Rosie & Donald
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2006, 01:37:34 AM »

As evidenced by many of the last elections, mostly in local races but nationally as well a tremendous amount of votes go to and against people simply based on appearance.

Sad as it is to say.

So this would be why some would be so against Hillary, rational or NOT.
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Re: Rosie & Donald
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2006, 08:13:14 AM »

Personally, I think the future of this great country is well vested in our youth....
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Re: Rosie & Donald
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2006, 09:41:26 AM »

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Personally, I think the future of this great country is well vested in our youth....


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Re: Rosie & Donald
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2006, 11:58:16 AM »

I still can't believe there are so many stupid people in NYcity,  that got her re-elected as senator. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Re: Rosie & Donald
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2006, 12:21:31 PM »

I guess the thing about so many (actually most) politicians and both the Clintons in particular is that is so obvious they are in it for the glory, their own egos, and to dispense their wisdom to us lesser mortals who are so privileged to be under their rule.  A pox on all of them.  Humility goes a long way in my book.
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Re: Rosie & Donald
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2006, 12:32:06 PM »

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I guess the thing about so many (actually most) politicians and both the Clintons in particular is that is so obvious they are in it for the glory, their own egos, and to dispense their wisdom to us lesser mortals who are so privileged to be under their rule.  A pox on all of them.  Humility goes a long way in my book.

Very true, Jerry...a person has to have a huge Ego and desire for attention to go into politics in the first place.  It is so easy for anyone to be tempted when Political "groupies" are constantly around...male or female.  

Personally, I could care less what they do in their personal lives so long as it's not illegal (business), and everyone consents.  I'd pick someone who lies about a BJ over WMD any day of any week.
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2006, 01:05:08 PM »

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I still can't believe there are so many stupid people in NYcity,  that got her re-elected as senator. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

Well not this stupid person! >:( I'm with the big man on this one. In 2008, "It's Gulianni Time!" [smiley=soapbox.gif] Happy Holidays Dennis to you and your family! [smiley=drink.gif] Hoist!  8-)
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Re: Rosie & Donald
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2006, 01:13:55 PM »

Me too! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] Can't wait to get a RUDY sign in my yard and on my bumper. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2006, 05:22:39 PM »

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Me too! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] Can't wait to get a RUDY sign in my yard and on my bumper. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
GO RUDY!!!!

Well that being the case, you need to be sure the RNC knows you're a conservative who supports Rudy. Every talking head I see on TV says the RNC thinks Rudy's too liberal " for the base "

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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2006, 06:01:59 PM »

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Well that being the case, you need to be sure the RNC knows you're a conservative who supports Rudy. Every talking head I see on TV says the RNC thinks Rudy's too liberal " for the base "

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Big B, maybe they monitor this site and now know. ;D
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Big B, maybe they monitor this site and now know. ;D
Yeah, just like moco! ;)
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Re: Rosie & Donald
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2006, 07:09:43 PM »

December 21, 2006
Hillary's Pelosi Problem
By Jed Babbin

Hillary Clinton has a problem. Its name is Nancy Pelosi. Clinton's run for the White House is being built - as was her husband's - on the idea of a "new democrat" who accurately triangulated between liberal and conservative well enough to shroud liberal policy with a cloak of moderation. The cloak was so tightly-woven and the media so compliant that no matter what Clinton did - from his first presidential act ("don't ask, don't tell") to the "wag the dog" episode in the impeachment days - he escaped scrutiny. But no matter how hard Mrs. Clinton clings to the Clinton Cloak, Speaker-to-be Pelosi's Animal House will be sticking its head out from every fold.

The timing for Sen. Clinton couldn't be better, or worse. The country has just handed the Dems control of both houses of Congress, President Bush is swimming in circles on Iraq and for the next two years Clinton has the opportunity to win her spurs by accomplishing something substantive. If she is a leader, now is the time for her to show it. The pressure is on, because if she can't manage more than campaign fundraising between now and November 2008, she'll have a hard time getting to the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House. Clinton knows that the 2006 vote was against George Bush and his Iraq policy, not for liberal nostrums peddled by her House peers. The problem for Clinton is Pelosi and her committee chairmen who are some of the most out-of-the-mainstream libs in the land.

Polls such as CNN's (reported by CQ Politics) analyzing election results in six of the most hotly contested states - Missouri, Montana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and Virginia - show that self-described moderates voted for Democrats by margins from 52-65%. (CQ also reported that in nineteen of the twenty-eight House seats captured by the Dems, voters had favored Bush over Kerry in 2004). The new House Dems aren't a radical bunch. Among the Blue Dogs, "fighting Dems" and the rest, there are enough moderates that could form a core of rebels big enough to stall Pelosi's agenda. Pelosi has been dealing with this, so far, by threatening all sorts of horribles to be inflicted on those who don't toe her line, from rotten committee assignments to awful office space. The effect of that approach can only last a while longer.

Pelosi's performance to date hasn't exactly endeared her to the moderates. First, by backing Jack Murtha over Steny Hoyer for Majority Leader she made clear that she wasn't among those who are working to avoid the "cut and run" label on Iraq. Next, by waiting too long to cut Alcee Hastings away from his expected Intelligence Committee Chairmanship and then appointing Silvestre Reyes of Texas in his place, Pelosi again showed a lack of care that must embarrass the moderates. Reyes's only accomplishment to date is proving his lack of knowledge about Islamic terrorist groups, confusing Sunni (al-Queda) and Shia (Hizballah) in a way that maximized embarrassment. Now Reyes, and the committee chairman Pelosi can't be blamed for - those old liberal lions - are about to seize the media's attention with splashy "investigative" hearings that will show again and again that they are liberals, not moderates.

Reyes has announced plans for a January hearing to investigate the "state of intelligence" provided in support of the troops in Iraq. How he can do this in an open hearing is not obvious. Will his committee leak what it can't publish? Since 9-11, sources on Capitol Hill and in the intelligence community have been insisting that major leaks - such as the NSA terrorist surveillance program - came from Congressional sources. Will Reyes's ascendancy make this worse, or better? Don't bet on "better."

Reyes isn't the only new (old?) committee chairman planning splashy hearings in January. There's a decade of pent-up populist outrage that the returning chairmen will treat us to. John Dingell's "investigative" juices have been pent up for too long. His subpoenas to Defense Department officials typically aim to score sound bites on the evening news on some real or imagined scandals. Henry Waxman will be chasing the pharmaceutical companies (to retard medical research and forestall production of miracle cures for dread diseases) and Jack "Redeploy to Okinawa" Murtha will be, on January 9th, trying to manufacture a scandal out of the desires of the Army, Navy and Air Force for more money than they are getting.

Murtha, who spent the past year remaking himself into the Dems loudest anti-war voice, wants to show how the Iraq war has to be abandoned or we will soon find our Army and Marine Corps so worn and reduced that it can't fight anywhere. The Dems - especially those who want to be president - need to think about Murtha, Dingell, Waxman and the rest because these old timers can destroy their chances in 2008.

Murtha will succeed scoring points on the evening news and in all the 527 Media because the media mentionables are even more liberal than he. But when Murtha's hearing devolves - as it must - into another argument between false choices ("stay the course" vs. "cut and run") voters will get a look under the Clinton Cloak. They will see Democrats - some of them the same people who caused us to cut and run from Vietnam - trying to do the same now, without a care about the message of terrible weakness they are sending our enemies.

Last week, in a lunch session with one of our most senior military officers, he expressed disgust and exasperation at people (he didn't mention Murtha by name) who are telling the world - including Iran, North Korea and others - that we don't have the strength to fight in Iraq or anywhere else. He said, pointedly, that if we had to - right now - we could defend South Korea. It wouldn't be pretty, he said, but we'd win. Those such as Murtha incite our enemies to take actions they wouldn't if we weren't weak.

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Re: Rosie & Donald
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2006, 07:18:43 PM »

Last year, when Murtha was saying our army was "broken" because of the strains imposed by the Iraq conflict, I visited Iraq to see for myself. Yes, the troops are under strain. Yes they are tired. But - and this is one of the many things the media declines to report - reenlistment rates in combat units is off the charts. Enlistees may have to wait their turn.

One Army First Sergeant I'd interviewed before told me he wanted to get home and stay there for a while. That problem can, and will, be fixed by growing the Army and the Marines. But what that sergeant told me had to be placed in context with what a youngish Army colonel told me that same night.

I asked him if the strain of long, repeated deployments would break the Army. His heated reply is still etched in my mind: "If you want to break this army, break your promises to it." Promises, he explained, like finishing the job in Iraq, like winning the war wherever it has to be fought.

Can Murtha and the rest be restrained? Not by Sen. Clinton, he can't. Clinton can't win in 2008 without all the moderates who voted Democratic this year. She won't get them, because for two years her party will showcase its hyperliberal best, Jack Murtha and the rest.

Jed Babbin was a deputy undersecretary of defense in the George H.W. Bush administration. He is a contributing editor to The American Spectator and author of Showdown: Why China Wants War with the United States (with Edward Timperlake, Regnery 2006) and Inside the Asylum: Why the UN and Old Europe are Worse than You Think (Regnery 2004).
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Re: Rosie & Donald
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2006, 07:45:27 PM »

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Last year, when Murtha was saying our army was "broken" because of the strains imposed by the Iraq conflict, I visited Iraq to see for myself. Yes, the troops are under strain. Yes they are tired. But - and this is one of the many things the media declines to report - reenlistment rates in combat units is off the charts. Enlistees may have to wait their turn.

One Army First Sergeant I'd interviewed before told me he wanted to get home and stay there for a while. That problem can, and will, be fixed by growing the Army and the Marines. But what that sergeant told me had to be placed in context with what a youngish Army colonel told me that same night.

I asked him if the strain of long, repeated deployments would break the Army. His heated reply is still etched in my mind: "If you want to break this army, break your promises to it." Promises, he explained, like finishing the job in Iraq, like winning the war wherever it has to be fought.

Can Murtha and the rest be restrained? Not by Sen. Clinton, he can't. Clinton can't win in 2008 without all the moderates who voted Democratic this year. She won't get them, because for two years her party will showcase its hyperliberal best, Jack Murtha and the rest.

Jed Babbin was a deputy undersecretary of defense in the George H.W. Bush administration. He is a contributing editor to The American Spectator and author of Showdown: Why China Wants War with the United States (with Edward Timperlake, Regnery 2006) and Inside the Asylum: Why the UN and Old Europe are Worse than You Think (Regnery 2004).
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This army is far from broken....in spite of the comments from the CSA to Congress... about how the army is on the edge of being broke ( a nice 180 from his usual comments)  but anyway...
I wont climb up on my soap box [smiley=soapbox.gif] anymore..I am awed by the professional soldiers that we have in our army, active, guard and reserve who do what they do and believe in what they do...  for themselves, there brothers in arms and their nation.
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Re: Rosie & Donald
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2006, 07:57:49 PM »

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This army is far from broken....in spite of the comments from the CSA to Congress... about how the army is on the edge of being broke ( a nice 180 from his usual comments)  but anyway...
I wont climb up on my soap box [smiley=soapbox.gif] anymore..I am awed by the professional soldiers that we have in our army, active, guard and reserve who do what they do and believe in what they do...  for themselves, there brothers in arms and their nation.

No need to get on the soapbox for me Scot, you're preachin' to the choir here.

The politicians need to get out of the way, unfortunately that isn't going to happen and certainly won't with the current make-up of Congress.


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Re: Rosie & Donald
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2006, 08:57:04 PM »

Back to Rosie & Donald -If they fought ,The Don would do ok if He could keep the fight standing. I,m afraid that Don,s comb over with fall in his face then rosie with a couple quick shot to don head will allow her to take Don  down  for some ground and pound.Rosie wins this one in the 2nd round. now if rosie fights miss america, Rosie licks her in the first round--- AK
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Re: Rosie & Donald
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2006, 09:10:00 PM »

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Back to Rosie & Donald -If they fought ,The Don would do ok if He could keep the fight standing. I,m afraid that Don,s comb over with fall in his face then rosie with a couple quick shot to don head will allow her to take Don  down  for some ground and pound.Rosie wins this one in the 2nd round. [highlight]now if rosie fights miss america, Rosie licks her in the first round[/highlight]--- AK


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