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CVO Technical => Wheels/Tires/Suspension/Brakes => Topic started by: harleydawg57 on May 14, 2008, 11:57:47 AM
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I was wondering if anyone on the sight has any info on filling tires with nitrogen on their bikes. I have talked to several people that have it in their car tires; and NASCAR has used it for years. Suppose to have less fluctuation in pressures and save on wear and tear on tires.
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Check out these threads....
what do you put in you're rubber? (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=20479.0)
Nitrogen in the tires? (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=10744.0)
Nitrogen Filled Tires? (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=9356.0)
Anyone using Nitrogen in their tires? (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=5501.0)
nitroger in your tires ? (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=16560.0)
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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All Aircraft use Nitrogen in there tires and yes they stay at a constant pressure better and longer. They also don't have to worry about regular air that always has moisture in it and freezes at altitude. Just don't let anyone ever talk you into using Pure Oxygen in your tires!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A Rolling BOMB!!! 8) 8) 8) 8)
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If I had 79% of all the girls, Harleys, steaks or other so very few actually worthwhile things in the world I'd be considered a glutton. So having 79% nitrogen in my tires should be fine. I don't want to be a nitrogen glutton. It seems so rude... :coolblue:
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I recently had nitrogen put in my truck tires it seems to increase my gas miles about 1+ mpg.
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The reason we loose air pressure in our tires is because of all the moisture in the air or water in some places we get air. When the temp changes so does your tire pressure. Dry Nitrogen is dry and clean air with no moisture so your tires stay the same pressure for a long time. 8) 8)
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I recently had nitrogen put in my truck tires it seems to increase my gas miles about 1+ mpg.
Sorry, I've got throw the Bravo Sierra flag on this one..... :givemebeer:
That's too statistically insignificant to be placed at the top of the list of all of the hundreds of other variables that influence fuel efficiency.
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I put helium in my tires, and my gas mileage went straight to hell! Damn tires kept floating up off the ground.
Jerry
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I put helium in my tires, and my gas mileage went straight to hell! Damn tires kept floating up off the ground.
Jerry
Jerry, I'm going to have to share a patent with you. Was just inspired by your post. Am going to invent little thin contoured helium filled bra bladders for that special lifting effect. And maybe start a sideline business for installation :coolblue: .
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/me shakes his head.
Only his brotha from anotha motha would think of this. :huepfenlol2:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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Jerry, I'm going to have to share a patent with you. Was just inspired by your post. Am going to invent little thin contoured helium filled bra bladders for that special lifting effect. And maybe start a sideline business for installation :coolblue: .
Sounds like a plan Don. :2vrolijk_21:
Jerry
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Jerry, I'm going to have to share a patent with you. Was just inspired by your post. Am going to invent little thin contoured helium filled bra bladders for that special lifting effect. And maybe start a sideline business for installation :coolblue: .
Yet another one of those things where I have to shake my head and say, Damn why didn't I think of that.....
:worthless:
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The reason we lose air pressure in our tires is because of all the moisture in the air or water in some places we get air. When the temp changes so does your tire pressure. Dry Nitrogen is dry and clean air with no moisture so your tires stay the same pressure for a long time. 8) 8)
the material tires are made of is porous.
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I put helium in my tires, and my gas mileage went straight to hell! Damn tires kept floating up off the ground.
I once added mercury to mine, but the the centrifugal force was so great I couldn't take the exits off the Parkway at speed :o
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There was an article on the Formula 1 site recently; if anyone will do anything to gain a tenth of a percent in performance it's an F1 team. Bridgestone, the tire supplier, said that moisture is the largest factor in pressure change with temperature. Dry air is fine, dry nitrogen is a little better. Unless you have an actual leak, molecular diffusion is why they lose pressure. Water being a relatively large molecule it stays inside. Those in the pipeline or welding fields will tell you that to find a small leak - use helium - very small molecule.
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Jerry, I'm going to have to share a patent with you. Was just inspired by your post. Am going to invent little thin contoured helium filled bra bladders for that special lifting effect. And maybe start a sideline business for installation :coolblue: .
Capitol idea Mr. !! I'm in for a franchise!
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had the nitrogen salesman come by yesterday and we said no. for aircraft or racing vehicles i can see it but we have enough trouble keeping people from putting fixaflat and balancing fluid in there tires. i know,i know its a gas and there is nothing wrong with it but i just don't see the need. just my two cents. oh and helium filled bra bladers? you guys are killing me. i got tears rolling down my face, ha ha ha .
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they just had a piece on the news this week , here in the Atlanta area it runs about $40 to fill up your car tires with nitrogen .. they are saying it's better for fuel economy as the tire pressure remains more consistent... of course if you check your tires regularly .... you can save the $40 and use the free air
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$40 bucks for something that I don't need... wow.... thats steep..... It is true that nitrogen is one of the inert gases therefore its response to temp. change in nominal, but this being said our tyres are designed to be cold filled with "air" and then ran to operating pressure.... this would allow for the expansion due to heat... and for the most part we are all operating within the normal operating parameters of said tyres, so there is no need to get alittle more from the tyre....
If I am going to spend $40 bucks on gas it is going to be the kind that goes in the tank not the tyres.....
nuke
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Nuke,
You took the words right out of my mouth!!
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Jerry, I'm going to have to share a patent with you. Was just inspired by your post. Am going to invent little thin contoured helium filled bra bladders for that special lifting effect. And maybe start a sideline business for installation :coolblue: .
Don,
Do U really want to get involed in a business where you're only dealing with women who's ur'uh, well you know. are pointing at their toes??
:nervous: :( :nervous:
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I think that kind of business would be more important than worrying about nitrogen in bike tires. :P
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Don,
Do U really want to get involed in a business where you're only dealing with women who's ur'uh, well you know. are pointing at their toes??
:nervous: :( :nervous:
(prior warning, uh oh)
You just reminded that the new venture would still need its advertising written. My apologies to Dr. King. But something like this :nixweiss: :
I speak with you today in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation. We come together to speak of uplifting freedom for everyone.
Seven score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we stand today, signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree freed men and helped forge a great nation. But the boobies were not free. Now we have a a great beacon of hope to millions of tiny or sagging boobies that have withered in this injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of their captivity.
Now one hundred and forty years later, the boobies shall be free. Helium my sisters, helium shall set you free. Rise up to no longer by crippled by the manacles of gravity and the chains of post lactation deflation. Helium Inserts hallelujah. No longer be segregated on that great island of perky. Enjoy the mammary prosperity that Helium can bring to you. I have a dream of proud breasts everywhere; standing tall, floating toward Freedom.
Announcer cut in: Please dial BR-549 to inquire about your very own Freedom Helium Bra inserts today. Products available for all sizes and conditions. Installation available (often for free).
(my real apologies to Dr. King)
(I really am going to hell someday)
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(I really am going to hell someday)
At least you'll have your fiends er friends there. I'll be in the back swilling...
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(prior warning, uh oh)
You just reminded that the new venture would still need its advertising written. My apologies to Dr. King. But something like this :nixweiss: :
I speak with you today in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation. We come together to speak of uplifting freedom for everyone.
Seven score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we stand today, signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree freed men and helped forge a great nation. But the boobies were not free. Now we have a a great beacon of hope to millions of tiny or sagging boobies that have withered in this injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of their captivity.
Now one hundred and fourty years later, the boobies shall be free. Helium my sisters, helium shall set you free. Rise up to no longer by crippled by the manacles of gravity and the chains of post lactation deflation. Helium Inserts hallelujah. No longer be segregated on that great island of perky. Enjoy the mammary prosperty that Helium can bring to you. I have a dream of proud breasts everywhere; standing tall, floating toward Freedom.
Announcer cut in: Please dial BR-549 to inquire about your very own Freedom Helim Bra inserts today. Products available for all sizes and conditions. Installation available (often for free).
(my real apologies to Dr. King)
(I really am going to hell someday)
Don, you do know that your mind operates on an entirely different level than everyone else's don't you??
I remember when people had to eat a sugar cube to come up with stuff like that!
:vrolijk_12:
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Just shows to go ya--"If it has tits or tires it will cause you grief someday"
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Don, you do know that your mind operates on an entirely different level than everyone else's don't you??
I remember when people had to eat a sugar cube to come up with stuff like that!
:vrolijk_12:
oh damn, made me laugh until my eyes leaked :2vrolijk_21:
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oh damn, made me laugh until my eyes leaked :2vrolijk_21:
Hmmm, this must have been what you were reading when I called you. ;D
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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Hmmm, this must have been what you were reading when I called you. ;D
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
It was a 1-2 punch. This one immediately followed by the same man's ruminations on Chip's center stand deployment issues. I was down for the count sucking air for a minute :huepfenlol2: !
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There was an article on the Formula 1 site recently; if anyone will do anything to gain a tenth of a percent in performance it's an F1 team. Bridgestone, the tire supplier, said that moisture is the largest factor in pressure change with temperature. Dry air is fine, dry nitrogen is a little better. Unless you have an actual leak, molecular diffusion is why they lose pressure. Water being a relatively large molecule it stays inside. Those in the pipeline or welding fields will tell you that to find a small leak - use helium - very small molecule.
having been in the Pipeline and welding field for over 35 years, I have never heard of anyone testing with heliun to find a pin hole leak, We teet at 1.5 times the operating presure, for 500lb lines we test at 750lbs...with nitrogen...always have...the standard in the industry
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don stop it, i still have tears running down my face. we have got to get to gather and tip a couple .
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don stop it, i still have tears running down my face. we have got to get to gather and tip a couple .
Amen to that. Where tipping beers is concerned I definitely have a dream :drink: !
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I'm adding a nitro tank and tapper to the Beer Frig for those English ales I so dearly enjoy, now I'll have a second use for this great gas :) :drink: :drink: :drink:
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I'm adding a nitro tank and tapper to the Beer Frig for those English ales I so dearly enjoy
You don't drink them room temp?
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You don't drink them room temp?
No, technically thats only a requirement if they are cask conditioned and served from a hand pump ;)
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You don't drink them room temp?
what those brits call room temp is alot colder than what we would consider room temp
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what those brits call room temp is alot colder than what we would consider room temp
Their room temp is between 50-60 degrees
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Don't recall the exact temp, but 2 weeks of local pubs and you acquire quite the taste :2vrolijk_21:
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And a few less brain cells!!
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And a few less brain cells!!
But like Cliff Clavin said...drinking kills the weak brains cell, leaving only the stronger ones behind, so it is good for your brain....
J
ust like in nature, the loins eat the weak animals out of the pack 1st and the pack becomes stronger. :P
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But like Cliff Clavin said...drinking kills the weak brains cell, leaving only the stronger ones behind, so it is good for your brain....
J
ust like in nature, the loins eat the weak animals out of the pack 1st and the pack becomes stronger. :P
yup, thats why you always feel smarter after a few beers :drink: :drink: :drink: :drink: :drink: