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[ultrafxr]

Friend of mine is interested in using these in his Ultra.  Wondering if anyone has any experience good or bad.
http://www.innovativebalancing.com/index.html

[hd-dude]

There is a thread that discusses balancing here:
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=15080.0

[Chief]

Friend of mine is interested in using these in his Ultra.  Wondering if anyone has any experience good or bad.
http://www.innovativebalancing.com/index.html

Jerry, interesting read. I've read everything on their site and it sounds feasible. I may just try some, they're cheap enough and report back. Why not?

[ultrafxr]

Thanks Jim.  I did a search but must have done something wrong since I did not find the link you posted.  Looks like at least one member recommends them.  Like you said Chief, cheap enough to give 'em a try and see how they work.   

[Chief]

Thanks Jim.  I did a search but must have done something wrong since I did not find the link you posted.  Looks like at least one member recommends them.  Like you said Chief, cheap enough to give 'em a try and see how they work.   

So far I've found one forum where a member tried them and had nothing but positive comments. Looks good.

[Chief]

Try this link...

Dynabeads Google Search

[Chief]

I just ordered some for the bike and some for the truck too. I'll report back soon.

[hdbrad03]

From Dunlop M/C Tire Web site:Not covered.

Tires injected with dry/liquid balancers or sealants, or in which anything other than air has been used as the support medium.

So looks like Dunlop doesn't like the beads?

[Chief]

From Dunlop M/C Tire Web site:Not covered.

Tires injected with dry/liquid balancers or sealants, or in which anything other than air has been used as the support medium.

So looks like Dunlop doesn't like the beads?

I'm not to worried about tire warranty as I've never had a reason to use one yet, but I've had plenty of opportunity to use unbalanced / under balanced tires. In my opinion, there's no down side to using them.

[Eqcons]

Jerry, interesting read. I've read everything on their site and it sounds feasible. I may just try some, they're cheap enough and report back. Why not?

I can do that for you already, Chiefy! 

I've been using them in both tyres for a few months (before the end of the riding season). A bit difficult to get in (via the valve) at first, but once you master the technique, easy enough.

Seem to work just fine - no hint of either wheel being anything but in balance, and they let me get rid of the awful stick-on weights that would surely eventually lead to corrosion on the wheel rims.

Conclusion - seem to work just fine, worth the money. 

Jim

[Chief]

I can do that for you already, Chiefy! 

I've been using them in both tyres for a few months (before the end of the riding season). A bit difficult to get in (via the valve) at first, but once you master the technique, easy enough.

Seem to work just fine - no hint of either wheel being anything but in balance, and they let me get rid of the awful stick-on weights that would surely eventually lead to corrosion on the wheel rims.

Conclusion - seem to work just fine, worth the money. 

Jim

Thanks Jim. Mine should be here this week. I got some for the bike and for the truck. I have heard mostly great things about them, but have found out that Motorcycle Consumer News reviewed them 10/2006 and poo-pooed on them. Everyone else seems to like them. 

[Eqcons]

Thanks Jim. Mine should be here this week. I got some for the bike and for the truck. I have heard mostly great things about them, but have found out that Motorcycle Consumer News reviewed them 10/2006 and poo-pooed on them. Everyone else seems to like them. 

I'll be interested to hear whether you like them as much as me then, Chiefy!

Now stop replying to my posts so I can go to be - 2:24AM here! 

Jim

[Chief]

I'll be interested to hear whether you like them as much as me then, Chiefy!

Now stop replying to my posts so I can go to be - 2:24AM here! 

Jim

OK. I won't reply any more. We'll chat tomorrow. Good night.

[Eqcons]

OK. I won't reply any more. We'll chat tomorrow. Good night.

It's Ok to reply, just wait 5 minutes to fool me so I go off to bed! 

[resqdoc]

Luv 'em! I use them on 35" Mud tires on my truck. A friend has one of those miniature choppers, good to about 65 mph. He had a terrible wobble that cleared up completely with some beads I gave him.

[Chief]

Luv 'em! I use them on 35" Mud tires on my truck. A friend has one of those miniature choppers, good to about 65 mph. He had a terrible wobble that cleared up completely with some beads I gave him.

Your experience is very similar to those of others I've read. Still no idea why MCN trashed them.

[Chief]

I got a box in the mail yesterday with my Dyna Beads. First off, they're VERY dense and very very tiny. They're smaller than the '.' on my keyboard. I was expecting something much bigger. The way they cling to the inside of the plastic bags had me entertained for way too long too. 

I decided to put them into the bike tires yesterday so I set off to do that.

First thing I did was to get two identical shot glasses to split the 6 oz. of beads into equal parts although it's really not that important. I then rigged up a funnel on the end of a tube that was large enough to just work down over the valve stem.

I put the tire in the wheel vise of the table and removed the valve core. I slipped the tube over the end of the valve stem and filled the funnel. I then went to dump them in and they rolled down the tube and got stuck in the valve stem. They were right, you have to do it slowly. No problem, I loosened the wheel and rolled it so the little suckers came out of the valve stem and remounted the wheel and tried again, this time just allowing a small steady stream of the little guys to roll down the tube and into the tire.

It took about 10 minutes for the first tire and about 5 minutes for the second one as I got better at gauging how fast I could feed them in.

I then removed the ugly and dirty wheel weights from both wheels. I had 2.5 oz. on each wheel. They look so much better all smooth and shiny with no visible weights. And now I don't have to worry about hurling weights anymore.

I'll be putting the other 20 oz. of beads in the truck this afternoon and drive it to Bushtec on Saturday. I don't have a balance problem now, but the idea behind these is that I'll never have to balance the tires again and it will increase tire life since they will always be balanced. Too good to be true? Maybe, but for $50 total, it's a pretty cheap experiment to find out.

I'll report back after the Bushtec trip.

[Eqcons]

I got a box in the mail yesterday with my Dyna Beads. First off, they're VERY dense and very very tiny. They're smaller than the '.' on my keyboard. I was expecting something much bigger. The way they cling to the inside of the plastic bags had me entertained for way too long too. 

I decided to put them into the bike tires yesterday so I set off to do that.

First thing I did was to get two identical shot glasses to split the 6 oz. of beads into equal parts although it's really not that important. I then rigged up a funnel on the end of a tube that was large enough to just work down over the valve stem.

I put the tire in the wheel vise of the table and removed the valve core. I slipped the tube over the end of the valve stem and filled the funnel. I then went to dump them in and they rolled down the tube and got stuck in the valve stem. They were right, you have to do it slowly. No problem, I loosened the wheel and rolled it so the little suckers came out of the valve stem and remounted the wheel and tried again, this time just allowing a small steady stream of the little guys to roll down the tube and into the tire.

It took about 10 minutes for the first tire and about 5 minutes for the second one as I got better at gauging how fast I could feed them in.

I then removed the ugly and dirty wheel weights from both wheels. I had 2.5 oz. on each wheel. They look so much better all smooth and shiny with no visible weights. And now I don't have to worry about hurling weights anymore.

I'll be putting the other 20 oz. of beads in the truck this afternoon and drive it to Bushtec on Saturday. I don't have a balance problem now, but the idea behind these is that I'll never have to balance the tires again and it will increase tire life since they will always be balanced. Too good to be true? Maybe, but for $50 total, it's a pretty cheap experiment to find out.

I'll report back after the Bushtec trip.

That's it Chiefy, you've mastered the technique! 

I note you've put 3oz in each tyre, I only used 2oz, and it seems fine.

Like you, I was very entertained by the static effect in the bag, to the extent that I keep my spare bag here on my desk as an executive toy! 

Jim

[Chief]

That's it Chiefy, you've mastered the technique! 

I note you've put 3oz in each tyre, I only used 2oz, and it seems fine.

Like you, I was very entertained by the static effect in the bag, to the extent that I keep my spare bag here on my desk as an executive toy! 

Jim

The reccomend 2 oz. for a motorcycle tire, but I already had 2.5 oz. (10 segments) stuck on each wheel, so I went with 3 oz. because too much is better with these things than too little.

Now, I'm ready to go out and try them. "If I only had a bike." (Sung to the tune of If I Only Had a Brain from The Wizard of Oz).

[spydglide]

Is it practical to 'save' um when you change tires?    spyder

[TN]

Is it practical to 'save' um when you change tires?    spyder

guess ya could but they're pretty cheap.

cost me 5 bucks a tire...



TN

[Eqcons]

Is it practical to 'save' um when you change tires?    spyder

Yes, so they say.

Jim

[Hoist!]

i've been using the dyna beads since my last tire change on my FLHRSE3, elite III's with 2 oz in each tire. ....

i just got some more to go in my fltr. but haven't got to put em in.

i'm sold,  heck i use a fitch fuel catalyst for fuel stabilization so WTFDIK.




good luck

TN

And you tried to sell me a fairing too! You wanna buy a bridge? I got one in Brooklyn!!!

Hoist!

[Hoist!]

you're right my friend, it won't happen again.

now tell me bout yer bridge.



TN

 

Hoist!

[Chief]

For obvious reasons I haven't tried out the ones in the bike, but I did put about 500 miles on the truck today with 5 oz. in each tire.

I don't currently have a balance problems that I'm trying to cure, but merely testing this to see if it maintains balance as the tires wear.

All I can say is that putting 5 oz. in each tire did not cause a balance problem. At 75 mph all the way, it was silky smooth. It's a 3/4 ton running empty with 55 psi so it's not a cushy ride, but on nice smooth blacktop, it was perfect. This proved to me that they don't cause problems, which is half the battle. Now, when I have 60,000 miles on the truck, somewhere like 10 years down the road, I'll know if they work.  I live pretty close to work so I don't rack up the big miles.

[spydglide]

Thanks, Chief.  The more I read you guys' reports on these little buggers, the more I realize I'm gonna have to break down and try some.  har!  spyder

[Chief]

Thanks, Chief.  The more I read you guys' reports on these little buggers, the more I realize I'm gonna have to break down and try some.  har!  spyder

Right now I can't tell you if they do what they claim. I can tell you that they don't throw a tire OUT of balance. That's half the battle.

If you do, go ahead and get one of the smallest bag just to keep on your desk. The dance those little guys do because of a static charge is pretty cool.

[TN]

i put 2oz in each tire on my fltr and its smooth as silk. the ease and cost of this alone should make everyone try it.

they do dance a bit while in the package.



TN

[Chief]

Yesterday I took my wheels off and took them to a local motorcycle tire shop to remove the Dyna Beads.

Putting Dyna Beads in: $6.

Removing Dyna Beads: $61 ($19 for chrome lead stick-on weights)

Lesson learned from another failed experiment: Priceless.

In my case, I think the problem is how badly out of balance my wheels and tires are. I'm running over 2.5 oz (10 squares of lead) on both tires. That's HUGE amounts of lead for a motorcycle. We tried to clock the rear tire to see if that was the problem and then it was 3.75 oz out of balance.

My guess is that the beads will work better when there's less of a balancing act they need to do. In my case, I was asking just too much from them.

When these tires are in need of being replaced, I'll be making sure to get the wheels balanced before new tires are put on. Hopefully then I won't need so much lead.

I'm NOT saying Dyna Beads don't work, they just didn't work for my badly out of balance wheels and tires.

On to the next experiment........

[Eqcons]

Yesterday I took my wheels off and took them to a local motorcycle tire shop to remove the Dyna Beads.

Putting Dyna Beads in: $6.

Removing Dyna Beads: $61 ($19 for chrome lead stick-on weights)

Lesson learned from another failed experiment: Priceless.

In my case, I think the problem is how badly out of balance my wheels and tires are. I'm running over 2.5 oz (10 squares of lead) on both tires. That's HUGE amounts of lead for a motorcycle. We tried to clock the rear tire to see if that was the problem and then it was 3.75 oz out of balance.

My guess is that the beads will work better when there's less of a balancing act they need to do. In my case, I was asking just too much from them.

When these tires are in need of being replaced, I'll be making sure to get the wheels balanced before new tires are put on. Hopefully then I won't need so much lead.

I'm NOT saying Dyna Beads don't work, they just didn't work for my badly out of balance wheels and tires.

On to the next experiment........

That's a shame, Chiefy.  They work just great for me.....  I'll be putting a new back tyre on in the next couple of weeks, so perhasp things wont work out then, time will tell.

Jim

[Chief]

That's a shame, Chiefy.  They work just great for me.....  I'll be putting a new back tyre on in the next couple of weeks, so perhasp things wont work out then, time will tell.

Jim

I really wanted them to work as I hate the look of the weights on the smooth chrome. Since I'm running a combined total of over 5 oz. of lead, I just think it was too much. Did you remove your lead weights when you installed them, or are you using them in addition to the lead?

[spydglide]

Oh no........I just received my dyna beads and haven't installed in either bike yet......anyone else have any feedback on whether or not they're 'snake oil' or the real deal?    spyder

[Chief]

Oh no........I just received my dyna beads and haven't installed in either bike yet......anyone else have any feedback on whether or not they're 'snake oil' or the real deal?    spyder

Do you know how much lead you've got on the wheels now?

I'm not totally done with them yet. I sucked them out with a vac yesterday so I've still got them. If I can get my wheels trued out to where they don't take as much lead, I'm going to try them again. I WANT them to work, but have to be mindful on how much work they can do.

[Eqcons]

I really wanted them to work as I hate the look of the weights on the smooth chrome. Since I'm running a combined total of over 5 oz. of lead, I just think it was too much. Did you remove your lead weights when you installed them, or are you using them in addition to the lead?

Took the weights off - none required at all now.

Jim

[Chief]

Took the weights off - none required at all now.

Jim

How much lead did you have on there? This would be a good comparison.

[Eqcons]

Oh no........I just received my dyna beads and haven't installed in either bike yet......anyone else have any feedback on whether or not they're 'snake oil' or the real deal?    spyder

All I can say is they work great for me, Spyd.  

Jim

[spydglide]

Not much on either bike, Chief.  But, in the past I have had tires that required lots of weight as you are indicating on yours.  spyder

[Eqcons]

How much lead did you have on there? This would be a good comparison.

If only I could remember.....    Certainly less than 2oz on each wheel.

Jim

[Eqcons]

Do you know how much lead you've got on the wheels now?

I'm not totally done with them yet. I sucked them out with a vac yesterday so I've still got them. If I can get my wheels trued out to where they don't take as much lead, I'm going to try them again. I WANT them to work, but have to be mindful on how much work they can do.

Were the dots on your tyres properly lined up where they should be?

Jim

[Chief]

Not much on either bike, Chief.  But, in the past I have had tires that required lots of weight as you are indicating on yours.  spyder

They'll probably work well for you then. When you try them, make sure to come back with a good report. I really want to get rid of the lead on my wheels and your success will encourage me to not give up on them.

[Chief]

Were the dots on your tyres properly lined up where they should be?

Jim

Yes. We even tried moving the tire on the rim 180 degrees to check it and it then indicated a need for 3.75 oz. of lead so we put it back to the original position.

[Eqcons]

Yes. We even tried moving the tire on the rim 180 degrees to check it and it then indicated a need for 3.75 oz. of lead so we put it back to the original position.

I think you've just been really unlucky with a tyre that needed so much weight, Chief.

[Chief]

I think you've just been really unlucky with a tyre that needed so much weight, Chief.

Twice. They both need huge amounts. I removed 20 0.25 oz squares of lead when I put the beads in. I'm going to Metzlers when these are done. The installer told me the Metzlers generally do not take as much lead as the Dunlops.

I guess I'll have to wait and see.

[Eqcons]

Twice. They both need huge amounts. I removed 20 0.25 oz squares of lead when I put the beads in. I'm going to Metzlers when these are done. The installer told me the Metzlers generally do not take as much lead as the Dunlops.

I guess I'll have to wait and see.

I've never had that much on the Dunlops, so I suspect your wheels may be more out of ballance than most....

Jim

[Chief]

I've never had that much on the Dunlops, so I suspect your wheels may be more out of ballance than most....

Jim

HD quality at it's finest.

[spydglide]

I've never had that much on the Dunlops, so I suspect your wheels may be more out of ballance than most....

Jim

That's what I was wondering.  Instead of changing tires, how 'bout some new (read: fancy/cool) wheels?  har!  spyder

[Chief]

That's what I was wondering.  Instead of changing tires, how 'bout some new (read: fancy/cool) wheels?  har!  spyder

I'll know if it's the tires or rims when the current rubber comes off later this year. If it's definintely the rims then I'll see what methods of balancing a chromed rim are available. I'd prefer to add material to the light side instead of  removing material from the heavy side.