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[trahog]

after all the suggested problems for wobble this is a new tire I recived yesterday with only 1300 miles on old one,still wobbles and look at all the weights 7 on each side.Has any one ever heard of that many weights or does any one think bad rim,not getting much help from the harley shop

[Wheelsnkeels]

Screams bad rim to me that's a lot of weight

[TN]

after all the suggested problems for wobble this is a new tire I recived yesterday with only 1300 miles on old one,still wobbles and look at all the weights 7 on each side.Has any one ever heard of that many weights or does any one think bad rim,not getting much help from the harley shop

too many weights, something ain't right. 

 i assume there 1/4 ounce a piece?? that many weights with yer old tire mounted?

3.5ozs



good luck

TN

[hogasm]

Have them  spin balance the rim without the tire

[trahog]

1'4 ounce a piece,with the old tire 2,had Harley emblems on old weights so do not know how much it weighed,but 7 on each side looks like chit

[VRODDAVE]

I would think you have a legitimate complaint for warranty.  

[1abastarsmda]

Maybe they've got someone there that doesn't really know how to balance your wheel.  I'd almost be willing to place a bet on it that if you took all of the weights off and took it elsewhere to have it balanced, you wouldn't have anything near resembling what you have now...otherwise that wheel probably isn't acceptable.

[murphy]

There is no way you should have that much weight on a rim... something is absolutely wrong!

[erniezap]

Is the dot on the tire lined up with the valve?

[Dan_Lockwood]

Is the dot on the tire lined up with the valve?

I agree, way too much weight for a new tire.

I had streetrod tires tht balance with way too much lead and I had them spin the tire 180 degrees on the rim and the tire balanced within a couple ounces.

Cast or forged bike wheels should not be that far off though.

Good luck.

[grc]

If the original wheel & tire combination was able to be balanced with only two quarter ounce weights, I seriously doubt that the rim is severely out of balance.  More likely they didn't index the tire properly on the rim, or the new tire is defective, or the person or machine used to balance this last combination isn't capable.  Somehow I don't think even Harley would think over three ounces of imbalance was acceptable.

Not sure what you meant by the comment about the cheap weights versus the good ones, other than maybe the fancier looking ones with the little logo's on them.   Doesn't matter, fancy weights or plain ugly ones, 3.5 ounces is too much.  How about the original complaint, any difference in the "wobble" with the new tire, or is it exactly the same?


Jerry

[trahog]

still wobble on new tire,said put some miles on it put on 90 yesterday and going riding today,will see

[Fullsac Performance]

If posible, jack it up and spin it. You might be surprised at what you see in regards to up and down and side to side run out.
Hopefully not, but a visual inspection of run out is the first place to start when you have a wobbler or shaker. You can balance these conditions
to zero but they will always give feedback through the bars.

Steve George
Fullsac Performance

[grc]

still wobble on new tire,said put some miles on it put on 90 yesterday and going riding today,will see

I love how the typical Harley dealership always recommends putting some miles on it, no matter what the problem.  Putting some miles on it isn't doing anything but getting you out of their hair, and they hope you give up and don't come back.

The previous post is right on the mark, this situation needs to be properly and thoroughly diagnosed, and that should have started with a complete runout check of the entire rotating mass (wheel, tire, rotors).  Balancing won't fix a runout problem.  And they still need to make certain the steering head adjustment is correct and to the latest specification (you might be surprised, but I'm not, to find that many so-called techs don't consult the manuals but just go by memory).  The fall away specs and torque specs were changed for '09 and later Touring models.

Good luck.  While you're out putting some miles on it, keep your eyes peeled for another dealership.


Jerry

[Chrome O]

Had the same problems with my 2011 Ultra Glide SE.  The dealership really fought Harley, turns out the wheel was drilled off center.  No amount of weight is going to fix that. 

Do as I did and make them show you the work they do, as they do it.  But that much weight is unacceptable.  Also the new wheels do not have a center grove to center the brake disc this could be "off center". 

I have to be honest, the bike still is not the smoothest, I have ever owned but its only bad at very high speeds, I just not going to admit here how fast that is but way over the posted speed.