Wow! Same crowd with maybe a couple previous cheerleaders swapped out with a couple new ones, but unfortunately a much smaller audience now. I paid $45k for my 2015 all in with a couple relatively inconsequential extras. I LOVE my bike! I bought it for FUN.
Now most some people who have been around for awhile have come to realize that they can not just buy whatever they would like to. For me that is called life. Doesn’t mean you need to bad mouth the product. Consider playing in a different sandbox! Ok. Ok. Ok. I suppose now I might get “cancelled!”
I had a 15 CVO Road Glide limited, blue. Put 44K miles on the bike in 2 years. Lifter failed at 44K miles, the last day of its warranty. Harley replaced the engine, but I never rode the bike again. Traded it for a 17 CVO Street glide, not a fan of street glide, so I traded it on an 18 CVO Road Glide, then my 19 CVO road Glide.
But, what does the 23 CVO limited have that the 15 CVO Ultra doesn't have other than RDS? 23 is 10K MSRP more than the 15 was.
I can tell you what the 15 Has that the 23 doesn't have. 15 has XM, CB, Vents that close in fairing, 2 Key fobs.
Its getting harder to find the value. Pay way more to get less. The M8 is a great motor. Much better than previous designs.
I'm on my 7th CVO. The 09 was a very good value as was the 12, and 13. 15 Value was okay but resale not so good like the 3 previous CVO's. After 15 they started removing stuff but kept raising price. Im not seeing the value I once saw.
I hope that Harley will redesign the touring bikes and bring them up to date. Harley is very capable of doing that.
The Pan America is a 100% up to date bike. Fantastic motor, superb suspension, 5 ride modes that change everything from throttle response, suspension, power curve, traction management and more. Bike is the Quickest Harley ever. Bike is speed limited to 142 mph. By far the best riding, best handling Harley I have ever owned.
I want some of this technology put into the touring bikes. Better suspension is what I want most. A bump that throws me out of my seat on my CVO road glide at 45 mph I can hit at any speed on my PA and it doesn't hardly move the bike at all. Even at 100 its a non event on PA, but road glide I'm 5 inches out of seat at 45 mph.