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Title: Starting problems sometimes
Post by: newseultra07 on January 15, 2017, 04:00:17 PM
Ok have a 2015 CVO RG. Sometimes when i go to start it really drags then starts rite up. Kinda like the battery is low. But then other times it cranks rite over like normal. Battery is 2 yrs old. I haven't had the battery tested to see if its bad or just weak. Or could it be the starter going bad or the compression releases..??
Title: Re: Starting problems sometimes
Post by: Mikey on January 15, 2017, 04:20:30 PM
Check the battery cables make sure they are tight!
Title: Re: Starting problems sometimes
Post by: newseultra07 on January 15, 2017, 04:22:59 PM
There tight
Title: Re: Starting problems sometimes
Post by: RoadTrip on January 15, 2017, 04:24:16 PM
Unless you've added some electrical accessories or had other electrical work done, it's a greater than 99% probability the battery is your problem. Clean and tighten the connections. If the problem persists, have the battery tested for cold cranking capacity.
Title: Re: Starting problems sometimes
Post by: newseultra07 on January 15, 2017, 05:11:09 PM
Have some LED lights only thing added. 
Title: Re: Starting problems sometimes
Post by: CVODON on January 15, 2017, 05:18:43 PM
I went thru the same thing with mine in November. Bike was 2yr old in Sept so battery was not that old. Replaced with Battery Mart unit vs HD for convenience. Battery Mart shipped to my door and I didn't have to drive 30 miles to HD store.
Afterwards I still had the occasional time where it just sort of "dragged" then spun on over and started.
In the mean time I changed FOB's as the ring on the one I was using was rusting and the other one was still new. No more dragging when starting so a couple weeks later I got out the old fob and presto occasional dragging returned. Put the questionable fob in metallic package my bridge pass came with to isolate it and went back to the other fob and have not had a "drag" since, now about 2 months. Also my radio stays on the station I used last now and does not go back to lowest AM setting as it was on the other fob regardless of what channel I used last it was always on AM580 when I started the bike next time. Now all is well.
Title: Re: Starting problems sometimes
Post by: newseultra07 on January 15, 2017, 05:31:27 PM
So it was your key FOB causing the problem. 
Title: Re: Starting problems sometimes
Post by: RGlideKid on January 15, 2017, 08:59:09 PM
Could be the fob, could be the battery.  I had to replace my battery this past fall, and the bike was just over a year old.
Sometimes they last, sometimes they don't.  I keep a tender on my full time now.
Title: Re: Starting problems sometimes
Post by: newseultra07 on January 15, 2017, 09:25:06 PM
How could the key FOB cause this to happen. 
Title: Re: Starting problems sometimes
Post by: GregKhougaz on January 16, 2017, 12:54:13 AM
I have the same bike which had the same symptoms even when kept on the battery tender. My battery was just replaced under warranty.
Title: Re: Starting problems sometimes
Post by: newseultra07 on January 16, 2017, 01:30:02 AM
Well I'm out of warranty so gonna have to buy new one.  I'm gonna take tomorrrow and have tested. 
Title: Re: Starting problems sometimes
Post by: FLY-DOG on January 16, 2017, 04:00:17 PM
Mine had the same problem and a new battery for the bike fixed it.
Title: Re: Starting problems sometimes
Post by: grc on January 16, 2017, 05:05:32 PM
Well I'm out of warranty so gonna have to buy new one.  I'm gonna take tomorrrow and have tested.

When in doubt the first step should be to check all battery connections (at the battery and the starter).  If clean and tight, with no voltage drop across any of the connections, then have the battery load tested.  Starting batteries, bike or car, seem to have a much wider range of service life these days (in my opinion due to excessive cost cutting in the production processes).  Some might fail in one year, some might fail in three or four years, and the really good ones might last six or more years.  It's a crap shoot. 

As for the posts about the key fobs, I don't doubt the veracity of those members but I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around how a fob whose only function is to turn off the security system could possibly affect engine cranking.  I'd love to see someone explain exactly how that happens.  The security system is either off or on, and once it's off the engine should crank normally.  Unless of course Harley has found a way to screw up that old simple technology. :nixweiss:

Jerry
Title: Re: Starting problems sometimes
Post by: Twolanerider on January 16, 2017, 05:27:16 PM

 Unless of course Harley has found a way to screw up that old simple technology. :nixweiss:

Jerry


Wouldn't impact the original poster's question but I did troubleshoot an aftermarket system once that shut off fuel without shutting off the starter. 
Title: Re: Starting problems sometimes
Post by: muddypaws on January 17, 2017, 07:32:54 AM
No way is the key fob the problem. Replace the battery.
Title: Re: Starting problems sometimes
Post by: newseultra07 on January 17, 2017, 02:11:05 PM
Had battery tested.  Has good voltage but the CCA are around 320. So that's prolly the problem.  Said need minimum of around 400 CCA. 

Where is a good place to get a new battery.  Don't feel like paying $170.00 for HD battery.  Only ones I've found outside HD only have around 310 CCA
Title: Re: Starting problems sometimes
Post by: grc on January 17, 2017, 03:25:41 PM
Had battery tested.  Has good voltage but the CCA are around 320. So that's prolly the problem.  Said need minimum of around 400 CCA. 

Where is a good place to get a new battery.  Don't feel like paying $170.00 for HD battery.  Only ones I've found outside HD only have around 310 CCA

Try Battery Mart.  http://www.batterymart.com/p-Big-Crank-ETX30L-Battery.html

The battery referenced in that link is made in the USA by East Penn, which may or may not be important to you.  It has 400 CCA, fits all Harley Touring models since about 1997, and is priced at $109 delivered to your door.  They often run specials that can drop that price to less than $100.  Beats the heck out of paying Harley $170 plus for their product.  Many of us around here use the East Penn battery, which is sold under their own brand name of Deka as well as many other names such as Big Crank.  They seem to work just as well as the Harley battery, and have about the same longevity as well.  As I've noted many times, batteries these days in bikes or cars seem to have a highly variable service life.  Some last for a year, some last for six or seven years, and most last for somewhere in the three to four year range.  As best I can tell the brand doesn't make much difference.

JMHO - Jerry

Btw, if you want a higher CCA high quality battery a good choice that will still cost you less than the Harley battery is a Yuasa GYZ32HL at 500 CCA.  The best price I've seen on that one is at Amazon, try this link and check the various sellers:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JAXXD2U/ref=asc_df_B00JAXXD2U4753398?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=shopzilla0d-20&ascsubtag=shopzilla_rev_574-20;14846855812415680127710070301008005&linkCode=df0&creative=395093&creativeASIN=B00JAXXD2U
This is also made in the USA.
Title: Re: Starting problems sometimes
Post by: newseultra07 on January 17, 2017, 08:06:18 PM
Ok thanx for the the info. 
Title: Re: Starting problems sometimes
Post by: newseultra07 on January 17, 2017, 08:08:19 PM
https://www.wholesalebatteriesdirect.com/harley-davidson-motorcycle-batteries/74143-harley-davidson-66010-97c-600cca-30ah-motorcycle-battery-upgrade.html



Anyone heard of this brand.