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Title: Stock Audio Question: BOOM I or II? Twin-Cool Lower Fairing Speakers
Post by: mturner2003 on January 25, 2017, 08:59:07 AM
Hello everyone. Just wanting to clarify something. Do stock 2016 CVO Street Glides come with Boom I or Boom II audio system? And how can you tell the difference between them? I appreciate your input.

Wanting to add the lower fairing speakers. So it got me thinking.
Title: Re: Stock Audio: Boom I/II ???
Post by: Phreakyz on January 25, 2017, 10:43:55 AM
Hello everyone. Just wanting to clarify something. Do stock 2016 CVO Street Glides come with Boom I or Boom II audio system? And how can you tell the difference between them? I appreciate your input.

Wanting to add the lower fairing speakers. So it got me thinking.

Boom II   Says so right on the RT Fairing Speaker.

To add the lower fairing speakers you will need to add the Amp to the RT Saddlebag and all the brackets and harness.

I recently added them to mine.   See this link     https://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=109276.msg1399307#msg1399307
Title: Re: Stock Audio: Boom I/II ???
Post by: mturner2003 on January 30, 2017, 09:19:28 AM
Thank you for the clarification and the link. Much appreciated!
Title: Re: Stock Audio: Boom I/II ???
Post by: mturner2003 on January 31, 2017, 07:27:38 AM
I also just realized you're the guy who left the review on the Harley website about the lower speaker kit, lol.
Title: Re: Stock Audio: Boom I/II ???
Post by: Phreakyz on January 31, 2017, 07:53:24 AM
Yes -    I think that myself and Pooj10 were some of the first to install the upgrade when Harley announced them.  The process is a little different for a 2015 vs a 2016 because of the different connectors used for the Saddlebags.    Pooj10's is a 2015 and mine is a 2016 so there are pics for both.   It was nice to have another person tackling the same project because the instructions from Harley were incomplete at the time and the parts lists did not list everything that was needed.     The upgrade is admittedly expensive and the result is not "Overly Dramatic" but IMHO it is worth the money especially if you save a few bucks and do the work yourself.     
Plus the speakers draw a lot of attention and conversation when folks see them.   :)
Title: Re: Stock Audio: Boom I/II ???
Post by: mturner2003 on January 31, 2017, 01:17:11 PM
   The upgrade is admittedly expensive and the result is not "Overly Dramatic" but IMHO it is worth the money especially if you save a few bucks and do the work yourself.     
Plus the speakers draw a lot of attention and conversation when folks see them.   :)

That is a big 10-4. I personally enjoy wrenching on things in the shop and saving a buck in the process is nice too. And all the better when it is a new toy!

May I ask what Harley charged you to flash the system?
Title: Re: Stock Audio: Boom I/II ???
Post by: Phreakyz on January 31, 2017, 02:19:32 PM
The dealer that flashed mine charged me nothing!  It was the dealer that I bought all of the parts from.   They actually seemed excited to do the flash because they had not seen any others that had this set up.  I told the service adviser that I was willing to pay for the techs time but he said that all of their techs were paid an 'hourly wage' and not by 'hours turned' so he said not to worry about the tech.  If you decide to do it then I would suggest trying to work the deal for the flash when you buy the parts.    Good Luck and post some pics of your bike!
Title: Re: Stock Audio: Boom I/II ???
Post by: OBB on January 31, 2017, 09:29:07 PM
Yes -    I think that myself and Pooj10 were some of the first to install the upgrade when Harley announced them.  The process is a little different for a 2015 vs a 2016 because of the different connectors used for the Saddlebags.    Pooj10's is a 2015 and mine is a 2016 so there are pics for both.   It was nice to have another person tackling the same project because the instructions from Harley were incomplete at the time and the parts lists did not list everything that was needed.     The upgrade is admittedly expensive and the result is not "Overly Dramatic" but IMHO it is worth the money especially if you save a few bucks and do the work yourself.     
Plus the speakers draw a lot of attention and conversation when folks see them.   :)

My dealer is doing a 'workshop' on the Boom systems next month. Anyone attending will get 20% off Boom stuff for the next 30 days. They just did a '15 SERGU like mine and it came out great. I'm thinking I may actually take them up on that offer. I asked them if I had to have them install it for that discount and they told me no. I don't mind doing stuff like that.
Title: Re: Stock Audio: Boom I/II ???
Post by: Phreakyz on February 01, 2017, 05:51:37 AM
My dealer is doing a 'workshop' on the Boom systems next month. Anyone attending will get 20% off Boom stuff for the next 30 days. They just did a '15 SERGU like mine and it came out great. I'm thinking I may actually take them up on that offer. I asked them if I had to have them install it for that discount and they told me no. I don't mind doing stuff like that.

20% is awesome!   Time to grab up what you need!
Title: Re: Stock Audio: Boom I/II ???
Post by: mturner2003 on February 04, 2017, 02:15:33 PM
Well hot damn. That is a deal. Could you gentlemen please share with me which dealerships you deal with? Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Stock Audio: Boom I/II ???
Post by: OBB on February 04, 2017, 07:10:17 PM
Well hot damn. That is a deal. Could you gentlemen please share with me which dealerships you deal with? Much appreciated.
I deal with Freedom in N. Canton. This discount they're tossing out is only for people attending the "workshop" about the infotainment system. Free to get in. They usually bring in a few pizzas too. :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: Stock Audio: Boom I/II ???
Post by: Phreakyz on February 05, 2017, 09:39:34 AM
I picked up the parts for my upgrade at Fink's Harley Davidson in Zanesville OH.   They had the Factory there one day for Demo Rides on the New Models and if you singed up for a test ride you received a coupon for 20% off on parts.   I signed up for a ride on a new M8 and then bought the audio parts...
Title: Re: Stock Audio: Boom I/II ???
Post by: mturner2003 on February 05, 2017, 10:35:21 AM
I deal with Freedom in N. Canton. This discount they're tossing out is only for people attending the "workshop" about the infotainment system. Free to get in. They usually bring in a few pizzas too. :2vrolijk_21:

Awesome. I signed up. Gives me an extra excuse to visit and hang out with my best friend who lives just outside of Akron. I told him to sign up too.

I just hope the 20% is applied towards all the parts needed to complete the kit and not just the BOOM speakers and amp.

I've done some serious internet searching and have found Surdyke and Intermountain Harley to have big discounts off the list prices. However, the 20% promotion gained by attending the workshop is still a better deal.

I appreciate all the input guys!
Title: Re: Stock Audio: Boom I/II ???
Post by: OBB on February 05, 2017, 12:34:37 PM
Awesome. I signed up. Gives me an extra excuse to visit and hang out with my best friend who lives just outside of Akron. I told him to sign up too.

I just hope the 20% is applied towards all the parts needed to complete the kit and not just the BOOM speakers and amp.

I've done some serious internet searching and have found Surdyke and Intermountain Harley to have big discounts off the list prices. However, the 20% promotion gained by attending the workshop is still a better deal.

I appreciate all the input guys!
Good deal. I guess I'll meet you guys on Sat then.
Title: Re: Stock Audio: Boom I/II ???
Post by: Glenncarp on February 05, 2017, 05:16:18 PM
Yes -    I think that myself and Pooj10 were some of the first to install the upgrade when Harley announced them.  The process is a little different for a 2015 vs a 2016 because of the different connectors used for the Saddlebags.    Pooj10's is a 2015 and mine is a 2016 so there are pics for both.   It was nice to have another person tackling the same project because the instructions from Harley were incomplete at the time and the parts lists did not list everything that was needed.     The upgrade is admittedly expensive and the result is not "Overly Dramatic" but IMHO it is worth the money especially if you save a few bucks and do the work yourself.     
Plus the speakers draw a lot of attention and conversation when folks see them.   :)

I just learned that there was a stage I and II, Was under the assumption that the CVO's came with the best available. I know, stupid me. Friend bought '16 CVO Street Glide, I bought '16 CVO Road Glide. I have stage I, he has stage II. His sounds a lot beter than mine volume wise. I am not going to spend $2K just to have music louder.

My question is...was stage II an option on the Road Glides or was stage II just model dependant?
Title: Re: Stock Audio: Boom I/II ???
Post by: Trigger-Man on February 05, 2017, 06:10:59 PM
I just learned that there was a stage I and II, Was under the assumption that the CVO's came with the best available. I know, stupid me. Friend bought '16 CVO Street Glide, I bought '16 CVO Road Glide. I have stage I, he has stage II. His sounds a lot beter than mine volume wise. I am not going to spend $2K just to have music louder.

My question is...was stage II an option on the Road Glides or was stage II just model dependant?
Model Dependant Glenncarp. Apparently the MOCO decides arbitrarily to equip the various CVO models as they see fit. Not sure if they still publish a separate CVO sales brochure, but they used to itemize which optional P&A equipment each of the models came with as standard equipment. The CVO Street Glide typically has been equipped with the best available audio equipment of the CVO lineup. My 2015 CVO Road Glide came with the Stage I audio system and I've just finished upgrading to Stage II. Haven't taken any high-speed rides yet .....but the system sounds awesome around town 8)!
Title: Re: Stock Audio: Boom I/II ???
Post by: OBB on February 05, 2017, 08:33:27 PM
Model Dependant Glenncarp. Apparently the MOCO decides arbitrarily to equip the various CVO models as they see fit. Not sure if they still publish a separate CVO sales brochure, but they used to itemize which optional P&A equipment each of the models came with as standard equipment. The CVO Street Glide typically has been equipped with the best available audio equipment of the CVO lineup. My 2015 CVO Road Glide came with the Stage I audio system and I've just finished upgrading to Stage II. Haven't taken any high-speed rides yet .....but the system sounds awesome around town 8)!
Hey Glenncarp, TM pretty much nailed it right here. MoCo seems to give the SESG and SERG the "fun" extras such as stretched bags and better audio while the Ultra versions of those bikes get CB, Intercom, Tourpack, etc.
Title: Re: Stock Audio: Boom I/II ???
Post by: mturner2003 on February 05, 2017, 08:35:19 PM
I have CB and intercom lol
Title: Re: Stock Audio: Boom I/II ???
Post by: OBB on February 05, 2017, 09:33:02 PM
I have CB and intercom lol
I just realized your profile says you have a SESG. Are you looking to do the lower speaker kit on yours?
Title: Re: Stock Audio: Boom I/II ???
Post by: mturner2003 on February 06, 2017, 07:59:33 AM
Yup. That is the true underlying meaning for my original post. I was curious what I had and whether or not I needed to upgrade EVERYTHING or just add the lower speakers. Which I will purchase on Saturday.

Kinda disappointed to spend all that money only to find that the wiring harness is too short. Phreakyz did you ever make your extension? Does it even plug in?
Title: Re: Stock Audio: Boom I/II ???
Post by: Phreakyz on February 06, 2017, 08:36:28 AM
The connector at the saddlebag was not too short for my installation.     I am assuming the difference between the 2015s and the 2016s?    Remember that the 2015 FLHXSE had different disconnects for the saddlebag speakers and amps.    My 2016 has the larger connectors that you slide the locks to release.    I would have liked for the harness to be longer on the other end (front of the fuel tank area)  it would have made for a neater install but it worked out fine.   
Title: Re: Stock Audio Question: BOOM I or II? Twin-Cool Lower Fairing Speakers
Post by: mturner2003 on February 27, 2017, 08:37:15 AM
Hey everyone, just an FYI for anyone looking to install the lower fairing speaker kit... If you have an aftermarket ECU, such as a Thunder-Max, like in my case, make sure you bring your stock ECU with you to the dealership. When I went in to get my amps flashed, they could not communicate with the Thunder-Max installed. So, I will need to go back with my stock ECU so they can complete the flash.
Title: Re: Stock Audio Question: BOOM I or II? Twin-Cool Lower Fairing Speakers
Post by: Trigger-Man on February 27, 2017, 06:49:28 PM
Hey mturner ......please let us know how much the lower fairing speaker installation improved your sound. I'm wondering as your existing Stage II speakers are three-way with 6.5" woofers and these "twin cooled" speakers are two-way (tweeter and bass/midrange) with significantly smaller 4" bass/midrange drivers. Presumably there should be mostly higher frequency sound improvement from these as they don't have speaker enclosures to enhance bass like the 3-way 6.5" non-twin-cooled lower-fairing versions do. On the other hand, you're still throwing a dedicated 300 watts at these two smaller speakers :nixweiss:.
Title: Re: Stock Audio Question: BOOM I or II? Twin-Cool Lower Fairing Speakers
Post by: mturner2003 on February 28, 2017, 06:47:25 AM
I'm heading back to the dealership this weekend to get the amps flashed with my stock ECU in place. I've got over 500 miles with the stock stereo system, so I feel I should be able to give a good review. I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Stock Audio Question: BOOM I or II? Twin-Cool Lower Fairing Speakers
Post by: mturner2003 on March 06, 2017, 09:49:56 AM
Hey mturner ......please let us know how much the lower fairing speaker installation improved your sound. I'm wondering as your existing Stage II speakers are three-way with 6.5" woofers and these "twin cooled" speakers are two-way (tweeter and bass/midrange) with significantly smaller 4" bass/midrange drivers. Presumably there should be mostly higher frequency sound improvement from these as they don't have speaker enclosures to enhance bass like the 3-way 6.5" non-twin-cooled lower-fairing versions do. On the other hand, you're still throwing a dedicated 300 watts at these two smaller speakers :nixweiss:.

The new speakers and flash definitely help! Like Phreakyz said, you can really feel the bass now (and I run my EQ below half). I think that with the new speakers handling more mid range frequencies, the flash designates more bass to the rear speakers. I am pleased with the purchase. Now, does it make a HUGE difference? No, but it is noticeable and I am content.

The fade and balance adjustment screen is now made into 4 squares. And you can move the cursor to get sound balanced the way you want. I'll take a picture when I get home. Might even post a video.
Title: Re: Stock Audio Question: BOOM I or II? Twin-Cool Lower Fairing Speakers
Post by: KY-SESG on March 19, 2017, 02:36:10 PM
MTurner, please remember to post the pics/video. I'm considering adding the lower speakers to my 2015 SESG and will do the install myself. Thanks!
Title: Re: Stock Audio Question: BOOM I or II? Twin-Cool Lower Fairing Speakers
Post by: mturner2003 on March 19, 2017, 08:34:57 PM
MTurner, please remember to post the pics/video. I'm considering adding the lower speakers to my 2015 SESG and will do the install myself. Thanks!

Sorry, I've been in Daytona for bike week. I'll post later this week.
Title: Re: Stock Audio Question: BOOM I or II? Twin-Cool Lower Fairing Speakers
Post by: KY-SESG on March 20, 2017, 08:54:54 PM
Sorry, I've been in Daytona for bike week. I'll post later this week.

Enjoy the rally. I'm jealous, but looking forward to Sturgis. Wish I had the time to do them all...
Title: Re: Stock Audio Question: BOOM I or II? Twin-Cool Lower Fairing Speakers
Post by: mturner2003 on March 23, 2017, 07:08:05 AM
Here it is folks. Let me know if you have any questions.

https://youtu.be/3BE4YA-4m80
Title: Re: Stock Audio: Boom I/II ???
Post by: ultrarider123 on March 23, 2017, 07:30:15 AM
Model Dependant Glenncarp. Apparently the MOCO decides arbitrarily to equip the various CVO models as they see fit. Not sure if they still publish a separate CVO sales brochure, but they used to itemize which optional P&A equipment each of the models came with as standard equipment. The CVO Street Glide typically has been equipped with the best available audio equipment of the CVO lineup. My 2015 CVO Road Glide came with the Stage I audio system and I've just finished upgrading to Stage II. Haven't taken any high-speed rides yet .....but the system sounds awesome around town 8)!

Well bust my buttons....I had never noticed that!  I looked this morning and yeppers, stage 1 on my '15.  It sounds great and is an improvement over the old system but dang it all (and this site....again), now I'm'a thinking what am I missing from 1 to II?  So, what would be involved with upgrading the current system to stage II and no lower speakers...just the ones in the current locations.  I'm all for upgraded sound and more speakers but the faring lower speakers with the twin cooled bikes aren't for me.
Title: Re: Stock Audio Question: BOOM I or II? Twin-Cool Lower Fairing Speakers
Post by: OBB on March 23, 2017, 08:42:45 AM
Well bust my buttons....I had never noticed that!  I looked this morning and yeppers, stage 1 on my '15.  It sounds great and is an improvement over the old system but dang it all (and this site....again), now I'm'a thinking what am I missing from 1 to II?  So, what would be involved with upgrading the current system to stage II and no lower speakers...just the ones in the current locations.  I'm all for upgraded sound and more speakers but the faring lower speakers with the twin cooled bikes aren't for me.
Here ya go.
https://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=110035.0

I just got the rest of the parts in for mine. Waiting on a warmer day to play with this in the unheated garage.
Title: Re: Stock Audio Question: BOOM I or II? Twin-Cool Lower Fairing Speakers
Post by: OBB on March 23, 2017, 08:43:20 AM
Bike sounds good Matt  :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: Stock Audio Question: BOOM I or II? Twin-Cool Lower Fairing Speakers
Post by: ultrarider123 on March 23, 2017, 09:02:10 AM
Here ya go.
https://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=110035.0

I just got the rest of the parts in for mine. Waiting on a warmer day to play with this in the unheated garage.

Thank you sir! 

I remember that thread now but it never registered with me I didn't have stage II...and at $1,300 bucks for the HD upgrade, I believe I'll just keep on singin' along with the boom I for a while.  With our bike trade/worth prices dropping like a rock, I can't see spending much more on Beauregard except maybe a couple hundred on performance mods once the warranty is gone July 26th, 2017.
Title: Re: Stock Audio Question: BOOM I or II? Twin-Cool Lower Fairing Speakers
Post by: Trigger-Man on March 23, 2017, 12:26:58 PM
Here ya go.
https://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=110035.0

I just got the rest of the parts in for mine. Waiting on a warmer day to play with this in the unheated garage.
Hey OBB .......why not consider a space heater for your garage? After shivering next to one of those portable heaters while performing a winter project on my bike, I ordered a 240 volt space heater for only $160:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HS8FZAC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HS8FZAC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Cost me another $100 to have an electrician install an appropriate outlet near my work area. This setup makes my winter bike upgrades outright comfy now ;D :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: Stock Audio Question: BOOM I or II? Twin-Cool Lower Fairing Speakers
Post by: Phreakyz on March 23, 2017, 01:35:37 PM
Here it is folks. Let me know if you have any questions.

Nice!    I added some of those songs to my riding playlist!
Title: Re: Stock Audio Question: BOOM I or II? Twin-Cool Lower Fairing Speakers
Post by: mturner2003 on March 23, 2017, 03:10:37 PM
Nice!    I added some of those songs to my riding playlist!

 :2vrolijk_21: :drummer:
Title: Re: Stock Audio Question: BOOM I or II? Twin-Cool Lower Fairing Speakers
Post by: ultrarider123 on March 31, 2017, 08:46:04 AM
Without starting another thread, I thought I would pose the question here.  If I just wanted to upgrade my speakers and NOT add an amp or anything else, what would be a good choice?  Which speakers are good with the stock amp? 
Title: Re: Stock Audio Question: BOOM I or II? Twin-Cool Lower Fairing Speakers
Post by: Glenncarp on March 31, 2017, 07:34:05 PM
Without starting another thread, I thought I would pose the question here.  If I just wanted to upgrade my speakers and NOT add an amp or anything else, what would be a good choice?  Which speakers are good with the stock amp?
I may be wrong, but the Ohms on HD speakers are not like those of other speakers. I am no audio whiz, but I gave an old pair of Boom speakers to a buddie of mine who owns an Indian and he gave them back stating the ohm issue prevented him from using them. I dunno, I seem to get half a story from half assed people.  :-\
Title: Re: Stock Audio Question: BOOM I or II? Twin-Cool Lower Fairing Speakers
Post by: ultrarider123 on March 31, 2017, 07:57:03 PM
Hey Glenn, that's sorta the same thing I heard, too. That's why I was asking just in case someone had tried and achieved, hopefully. Thank ya, sir.
Title: Twin-Cool Lower Fairing Speakers
Post by: mturner2003 on December 07, 2020, 09:57:45 AM
Well. Had an accident with the CVO back in August. I'm OK but the bike is totaled. I pulled the entire lower fairing speaker kit, wiring harness and amp off the bike. It's for sale if anyone is interested. The right side speaker has a small amount of rash but could be buffed out and would be barely be noticeable.  It was $1300 new. $500 bucks and it's yours. I'll post pics here and in the classifieds soon. 937 309 8432