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Title: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: Hotmetal2 on March 02, 2005, 12:18:12 PM
Hi all, I'm new in the Harley World. Last december I ordered an FLHTCI Lava Red and I should have it in April!! Anyway, I don't need it before April because here in Qu
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: mfgreen on March 02, 2005, 12:30:55 PM
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Hi all, I'm new in the Harley World. Last december I ordered an FLHTCI Lava Red and I should have it in April!! Anyway, I don't need it before April because here in Qu
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: Dirt Bagger on March 02, 2005, 12:42:50 PM
Hotmetal2,

Looks like you already made the choice!  I see the [bgcolor=Yellow]YELLOW[/bgcolor] picture there.  Anyway,  these bikes are a whole lot of fun! [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif]

Welcome to the site.

[bgcolor=Orange]Dirt Bagger[/bgcolor]
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: hd-dude on March 02, 2005, 12:59:41 PM
1st of all welcome to the site....2nd of all GET THE SEEG (if you can afford it). You will not be disappointed. As MFG stated don't be scared of the Yellow. I think it will have a great resale value, but that won't matter because you won't want to ever get rid of it.
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: Hotmetal2 on March 02, 2005, 01:57:58 PM
Thanks all for your replies,

Dirt Bagger .... no I didn't make my choice yet. Right now, I have the 2 bikes reserved!! The picture represents the temptation!!!

Just have to make my mind!!

Special color for special bike [smiley=thinking.gif]
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: JCZ on March 02, 2005, 02:16:07 PM
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Hi all, I'm new in the Harley World. Last december I ordered an FLHTCI Lava Red and I should have it in April!! Anyway, I don't need it before April because here in Qu
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: the O`Fender on March 02, 2005, 02:43:06 PM
Unfortunately Hotmetal you are probably on the wrong site if you want an UNbiased opinion. The majority of the members here are CVO owners and from my experience, we are mostly quite satisfied with our purchases. The CVO line offers what I believe to be a nicely modified HD at a discount price. For what I got for 30k ('04 SE Electric Glide) I couldn't buy a stock HD and add compareable mods for the same money. 103" motor, billet chrome mag wheels, custom paint, lots of chrome. So I believe it was a real BAHGEN!!! [smiley=bigok.gif]
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: Dirt Bagger on March 02, 2005, 03:43:19 PM
Another thought... the [bgcolor=Yellow]sunshine yellow[/bgcolor]will melt the snow before you.  Ya, you could ride the SEEG all year round in the Great North! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: Hotmetal2 on March 02, 2005, 03:46:14 PM
O' Fender,

The problem ... there is no UNbiased Forum!!! Some people were biaised too! I had comments like:
- The SE edition is more stripped than the FLHTCI
- Many dealers will not accept to trade yellow bike.
- It cost less to buy a Standard and to add stuff after
- You will never have the pleasure to personalize you bike ... OR
- Anyway you will put a lot of money to personalize your bike ... better to start from a standard.
- Twin 88 is a lot more reliable than twin 103 because there are few of it ...

Is that coming from UNbiased forum? [smiley=oops.gif]
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: the O`Fender on March 02, 2005, 04:03:50 PM
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O' Fender,

The problem ... there is no UNbiased Forum!!! Some people were biaised too! I had comments like:
- The SE edition is more stripped than the FLHTCI
- Many dealers will not accept to trade yellow bike.
- It cost less to buy a Standard and to add stuff after
- You will never have the pleasure to personalize you bike ... OR
- Anyway you will put a lot of money to personalize your bike ... better to start from a standard.
- Twin 88 is a lot more reliable than twin 103 because there are few of it ...

Is that coming from UNbiased forum? [smiley=oops.gif]


My response to those comments are as follows:
1) The SEEG started as FLHTCI and has more basic options (better stereo, cruise control, more chrome, braided cables, internal wiring, billet billet and more billet [oh yeah billet is better] lower fairings) did I miss anything?
2) I never heard of a dealer that was color biased and better to resell then trade up!!!
3) NO NO NO you could not add the items included, even if you could buy the parts at cost!!!
4) trust me, you will still personalise your scooter, read some posts here!!!
5) What's a few? haven't heard of any major failiures from 103 owners in fact I have owned both an 88 and a 103 the 103 creates much larger grins!!!

[smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: mfgreen on March 02, 2005, 04:12:19 PM
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O' Fender,

The problem ... there is no UNbiased Forum!!! Some people were biaised too! I had comments like:
- The SE edition is more stripped than the FLHTCI
- Many dealers will not accept to trade yellow bike.
- It cost less to buy a Standard and to add stuff after
- You will never have the pleasure to personalize you bike ... OR
- Anyway you will put a lot of money to personalize your bike ... better to start from a standard.
- Twin 88 is a lot more reliable than twin 103 because there are few of it ...

Is that coming from UNbiased forum? [smiley=oops.gif]

This is MFG,
I would like to address  these things here and now.

The SE edition is more stripped than the FLHTCI
The paint, chrome and motor are not a definition of stripped.

Many dealers will not accept to trade yellow bike.
They haven't started delivering them number one. And number two, name the dealers that will not trade you for a Yellow Screamin' Eagle Electra Glide and I will guarantee you they have the same eyesight as RAY Charles.

It cost less to buy a Standard and to add stuff after
Yes it costs less to buy a lesser bike.......A CVO is a CVO and not a clone, not a wannabe, not a rice rocket and not for the weak of heart.  You cannot make a CVO. CVOs are made by H-D.  You can only augment, personalize and embellish your purchase.  This is what you would do with any bike.

Anyway you will put a lot of money to personalize your bike ... better to start from a standard.
Funny how folks will try to drag you down.  Tell 'em to get out of your way that you recognize what you want is better than standard.

Twin 88 is a lot more reliable than twin 103 because there are few of it
The 103 is a TC88.  It is bored with the 1550 big bore kit and stroked with the stroker kit right from the factory and you can get the extended factory warranty with it.  
Quit listening to folks without vision for purposes of guiding your life and it's pursuit of happiness.

Mike
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: RRSteve on March 02, 2005, 06:47:17 PM
One other point I would like to make. You spend all that money on a Classic or an Ultra trying to make it what you want. Then you decide to trade it in or sell it. The first thing they look at is what the book value is on the bike. Guess what, the book says the bike is an Ultra or a Classic and the value is established based on the original msrp. You may get a fraction of the money you put in those expensive parts you installed but probably not from a dealer on trade in. The same scenario with the SEEG, would have them looking in the book and seeing that the original msrp was $30k. Again the used value would be based on msrp. Even if you built a lesser bike to be the equal or better than the SEEG the SEEG will always bring more money used.
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: Darrellh on March 02, 2005, 07:17:57 PM
I had a 03 Ultra that I tried to turn into a SEEG c/w a 103 build. Now I have the black/blue 04 SEEG that again I have customized to a ridiculous level. (It's an addiction for me). Having done both bikes I can tell you there is no comparison, not even close, in cost between them. The SEEG is much better value and will not only save you money and a lot of time, it will also be more reliable in the end.
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: ido911s on March 02, 2005, 09:07:03 PM
You might as well go for it!! I struggled with the same question and finally decided it will probably be an awesome color! The more I've thought about it the moe pleased I am with my decision. I'm told my bike will be in in April and I plan on taking lots of pictures of it and posting them here so people can decide for themselves. Everybody on this site is pretty supportive so why not just do it. Best of luck

Steve
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: Loose_Goose on March 02, 2005, 09:36:18 PM
Snatch up the banana!  You won't regret it.  The SEEGS are the best there is!
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: LETS_ROLL on March 02, 2005, 10:14:51 PM
Ditto for all the positive post.  that have been posted.  I'm willing to bet all the people that are telling you not to do it and all the negative things are the same people that want that bike.  
It would go something like this.
"Hey buddy guess what, I just called the dealer and told them I didn't wanted the yellow SEEG (what you suggeted me to do)".  
Then your buddy will say" Oh I just remember I have to make this important phone call".  Then they would call the dealer and say, "hey I just heard you have a yellow SEEG coming and your buyer backed out, sign me up".

Buy it, Just do it.  If you don't like it then sell it......to your buddy [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif]
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: Hotmetal2 on March 02, 2005, 10:32:01 PM
Hehe Guys  [smiley=biggthumpup.gif]

I DID IT!..... IT IS DONE!!  I signed for the yellow SEEG, I will have it in April. I have  cancelled the FLHTCI Lava Red!!!  [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif]

Now, because it is done, March will be the longest month of my life!!!!

Thanks to all of you who helped me in my decision!  [smiley=beerchug.gif]
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: Jock on March 02, 2005, 10:36:07 PM
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Hi all, I'm new in the Harley World. Last december I ordered an FLHTCI Lava Red and I should have it in April!! Anyway, I don't need it before April because here in Qu
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: LETS_ROLL on March 02, 2005, 10:50:04 PM
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Hehe Guys
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: JCZ on March 02, 2005, 10:55:23 PM
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Hehe Guys
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: JR on March 02, 2005, 10:55:33 PM
Congrats Hotmetal2!!! [smiley=7.gif] [smiley=1syellow1.gif] [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] [smiley=beerchug.gif]

I have been waiting for 5 months for my Lil Bananna to arrive. I have been Blessed to find this wonderful site and have learned so much. At the same time I have made friends with alot of wonderful people. So my advice is to pull up a chair and read all the old threads and enjoy yourself.

No matter what color you get you can't go wrong! They are all beautiful lookin rides! God Bless you and new scooter and warm welcome to this site!

                                                                                      JR [smiley=laugh.gif]
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: Dr. Evil on March 03, 2005, 10:28:54 AM
You're in Canada... what's a month??? It's not like you can ride today anyway  [smiley=laugh.gif]  [smiley=beerchug.gif]

Believe me... it's worse when it's in the garage and the weather won't let you ride.  You just spend more money on parts...
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: Hotmetal2 on March 03, 2005, 01:34:34 PM
My wife is very happy about the yellow SEEG on order ... but she has a question for you guys or .. more for your passenger.

She had the chance to try the FLHTCI (passenger seat) and she found it very comfortable. How can we compare the SEEG passenger comfort compare to the FLHTCI?

PS: Sorry for my English [smiley=oops.gif]
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: Dr. Evil on March 03, 2005, 01:36:30 PM
I traded my Ultra for my SEEG.  Have heard nothing but complaints ever since.  Expect to replace the seat if you plan on riding alot.   [smiley=beerchug.gif]
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: mfgreen on March 03, 2005, 02:02:28 PM
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My wife is very happy about the yellow SEEG on order ... but she has a question for you guys or .. more for your passenger.

She had the chance to try the FLHTCI (passenger seat) and she found it very comfortable. How can we compare the SEEG passenger comfort compare to the FLHTCI?

PS: Sorry for my English [smiley=oops.gif]


Very Firm
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: Screamin on March 03, 2005, 05:36:20 PM
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My wife is very happy about the yellow SEEG on order ... but she has a question for you guys or .. more for your passenger.

She had the chance to try the FLHTCI (passenger seat) and she found it very comfortable. How can we compare the SEEG passenger comfort compare to the FLHTCI?

PS: Sorry for my English [smiley=oops.gif]


Hell, your english is great. 'Specially compared to some of us from the south -  [smiley=laugh.gif] - Oh boy, here we go. Anyway, The SEEG seat is, IMHO, for looks, NOT comfort. We came off of an Ultra as well and are putting on another pillow look this weekend. Going to end up w/ two versions; one for styling around the state and another for serious long distance riding.
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: Tonys on March 03, 2005, 09:33:49 PM
Welcome to the site and SEEG world...I was gonna say: GET IT, GET IT, but I see you GOT IT! Good move, you will love it. Your questions have been answered, but I'll add this..I had an '03 Ultra...when I saw the info on the SEEG, I added up all the extras including the 103...and there is no way you could add the goodies to the ultra without spending more. The Ultra's seat is more passenger friendly but there are many seats you can get from Corbin, Mustang..H-D etc. Count the days and enjoy! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: nsrider on March 04, 2005, 09:33:56 AM
Hotmetal2, Bonjour de Nouvelle Ecosse. I have an '04 SEEG and the wife took one short ride on the stock seat and then I bought the Road King equivalent of the stock Ultra seat. The Ultra seat will not fit because of the tank plate. 17,500 km on the new seat and no complaints from the back. Remember, if momma ain't happy. ain't nobody happy.

Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: ccr on March 07, 2005, 10:54:21 AM
Hotmetal2 I never got to see your question before all the people before me advised you very well to go for it and buy the best bike HD has made in over 100 years.  And the colour is luscious.  I, do have the red, so love mine, husband has the Black and Blue so that is great too, but the orange and black holds a special place in our hearts, the teal is cool and that yellow ------- WOW!  You will never be sorry.  Listen to the guys who say, just buy whatever seat will make the Mrs. happy, but if I was advising you, I just reccomend two yellow SEEGs or perhaps a Fat Boy for the wife. Then you both get the best seat on any bike - the front seat.  Modifications are coming, and you got a month to plan them out so that you don't duplicate expenditures. You already know you need a new seat, order it.  Look at the "Must have changes for new SEEGs thread; http://flhrsei.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=eg_gen;action=display;num=1082739096" and order some of those too.  Then when the bike is in the garage and you can't sleep because of all the excitment you have pent up inside of you, you will have something to do with your hands.   [smiley=laugh.gif]  Smile, laugh, enjoy.  You have just made one of those life altering decisions. Congratulations.   [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: Hotmetal2 on March 07, 2005, 01:15:25 PM
Thanks Mrs.WeCVO for all your good words,

At the begining I was not sure about the Yellow .... but today .... I really like the color!! I would not change it! I'm very exited  [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif]

I will have it in about 5 weeks ... very long weeks. Today in Montr
Title: Re: Help me to take a decision!!!
Post by: hd2003-se2005 on March 07, 2005, 03:36:13 PM
Just glad that snow is not here! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]