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Title: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: syoder76 on October 07, 2008, 10:44:24 PM
 Hello : Syoder76 here (Sean ) . Still learning how to use this sight, so forgive me if I am out of place.
Just bout my second Harley [ 2009 CVO FAT BOB Screamin Eagle 110 ] . I launched a search for info for slip ons and came to your sight. Through my readings, I discovered Rush ,2-1/2 baffles. Today I went to a Harley dealer and found that all of the hired help new nothing of this topic. All of there 08 catalogs are of no help unless you ask them to call the actual maker of the slip on you want. Turns out Rush indeed makes a specific slip-on for the 09 CVO Fat Bob. How ever, I chose the 2" baffle verses the 2-1/2 because I want some back pressure to help preserved the engine in the long run. In my opinion based on many different opinions of Harley service techs , is that to little or no back pressure can not only result in running hot , but also could result in a loss of horse power.
  My dealer ( whom I will no longer deal with ) talked me out of slip ons and told me they would remove the baffles to achieve the same results ( good loud sound ).
Well, I am here to say it sounds great, but pops excessively during throttle down. I called another dealer closer to me and they said that was wrong to do. They said that dealer should have never advised that. They said the engine will run hot.
  That brings me to a side thought : I thought popping , also known as back firing was and explosion of excess gas in the exhaust system. I am being told that removing the baffles made the engine run lean. If its running lean, where is the back firing coming from ?
  Now, back to the topic of getting better sound out of the Fat Bob.   Ask your parts advisers to call the makers.  You will achieve better results. Most makers of parts and ECMs/tuners haven't even updated there web sights yet.
  I also found out that the "Model 5 " power commander will not be out till October. The "Thunder Max " ECM while a great expensive product that produces excellent results, binds me to my certified mechanic. It also is a pain to restart the bike if you disconnect the power. If You don't restart the bike in a specific manor, you will loose the program in the "Thunder Max " ECM. So , I went with Harley's Sreamin Eagle Tuner. A four hour dyno tuned process, that keeps the original EC M.
 I also have an 08 Victory and formerly owned a 06 Fat Boy. Both ran much much smother that the 09 Fat BOB. That being said , I love the performance of the 110 engine and the fit of the bike to my 5-8" frame.
Any thoughts or advice or corrections is welcome...please.

Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: BayouBiker on October 07, 2008, 11:11:31 PM
laissez les bon temps rouler - from Bourbon St, New Orleans!   
                                                          :drink:
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: Rooster452 on October 07, 2008, 11:26:53 PM
Howdy & welcome to the site from southern Florida! If it's info you need, you came to the right place.
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: DEDE on October 07, 2008, 11:50:37 PM
Bienvenue Welcome from Quebec
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: Ride n Shine on October 08, 2008, 12:52:57 AM
Welcome aboard from New Zealand. :drink:
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: BALIS on October 08, 2008, 03:09:37 AM
Welcome from Brussels,Belgium
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: bisounours on October 08, 2008, 03:36:11 AM
Good morning Sean,

 :welcome_005: on the CVO website  :2vrolijk_21:

But  :worthless: of your bikes

I send you the  :welcome_005: from FRANCE

Best regards

  :vrolijk_26: Jacques
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: Fired00d on October 08, 2008, 06:27:05 AM
Welcome to the site glad to have you join us. :2vrolijk_21:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: MIKEYTEE on October 08, 2008, 07:11:47 AM
Sean,
Welcome to the site from The Lowcountry of South Carolina!
Mike
 :drink:
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: Classic45 on October 08, 2008, 08:06:19 AM
Welcome to the site from - Moss - Norway! :coolblue:
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: mr_magoo on October 08, 2008, 08:42:42 AM
Welcome to the site.
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: ice6900 on October 08, 2008, 10:42:29 AM
hi Sean,  greetings from switzerland, many thanks for the info in ur 1st post, best of luck with ur ride
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: sadunbar on October 08, 2008, 11:29:47 AM
Welcome to the site, Sean!   :2vrolijk_21:   Glad you have joined us!
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: FLYNDYNA on October 08, 2008, 11:32:32 AM
Welcome aboard from Northern Virginia...you will find answers to your questions in other threads, such as Intake/Exhaust, Twin Cam, ect...congratulations on a great ride!
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: Buy early on October 08, 2008, 11:39:10 AM
Welcome from Minnesota! Ride safe.
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: LRebel on October 08, 2008, 12:21:49 PM
Welcome from Oklahoma!
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: GregKhougaz on October 08, 2008, 12:30:43 PM
Welcome aboard from Santa Monica, CA Sean!! 

You'll learn more perusing this site for one day than in a year of conversations with dealer..... 
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: xjackx on October 08, 2008, 12:34:30 PM
Sean, welcome to the site from South Carolina!    :bananarock:
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: d o g o l s on October 08, 2008, 03:54:33 PM


syoder76  welcome aboard  :2vrolijk_21:
 
 
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: ryr8828dj on October 08, 2008, 04:11:12 PM
I went with the Power Commander III and Rush Slip-Ons (2") on my SE Fat Bob.  Never discussed it with my dealer.  Which color did you get syoder76?  If my count is right there are 2 Yellow, 1 Blue, and 2 Black on the site now.  Lets see some pics!   :worthless:
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: sullyboo on October 08, 2008, 05:46:39 PM
Welcome to the site from New Jersey.
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: BIGDOG on October 08, 2008, 08:48:37 PM
Welcome to the CVO site from Washington State. :bananarock:
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: syoder76 on October 08, 2008, 09:41:09 PM
 Thanks for the warm welcome. Hope I didn't bore anyone with my long intro. Anyway , I work 7 days a week for the mighty U.S ARMY, repairing Chinook twin blade helicopters, so i Will only be on for a short time , here and there.
   To ryr8828dj : I got the red and black. Or , should I say rust color and black. When I learn how to import pics to this sight I will load them the minute I get a chance.
Question : Can I put the original baffles back in with out the glass packing ? The dealer ship threw the packing away. I was thinking of nut and bolt at the aft end of the original slip ons while I wait for my Rush slip ons . Any advice ?

Thanks every one...Sean from South Jersey
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: planenut on October 08, 2008, 09:45:52 PM
welcome from northwest nj     :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: FLHTCUSE3 Erling on October 09, 2008, 06:58:09 AM
Welcome to the site from Stavanger, Norway :)
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: syoder76 on October 09, 2008, 10:57:03 PM
Took your advice, every one. I put the stock baffles back in till my Rush slip-ons come in. Also hooked up my Gerbings heated gear. Works great. Gonna break the bike in properly, then I already have an appointment for the Harley Screemin Eagle Super Tuner , when I  install my Rush slip-ons.
   Once again , today, I was still being told from my selling dealer that the 110 already has the "Hot Down load ". He said the tuner was a waist of money. I disagree.
You can't go from stock slip-ons to aftermarket performance slip-ons with out a Fuel air adjustment.
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: ryr8828dj on October 10, 2008, 03:41:29 PM
Yeah it is possible to install the aftermarket exhaust without a tuner on this bike... it's already got the heavy breather.  But the stock ECM dogs the engine so much you'll be glad you've got the abilty to offer up some more torque.
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: Hoist! on October 10, 2008, 05:02:20 PM
Took your advice, every one. I put the stock baffles back in till my Rush slip-ons come in. Also hooked up my Gerbings heated gear. Works great. Gonna break the bike in properly, then I already have an appointment for the Harley Screemin Eagle Super Tuner , when I  install my Rush slip-ons.
   Once again , today, I was still being told from my selling dealer that the 110 already has the "Hot Down load ". He said the tuner was a waist of money. I disagree.
You can't go from stock slip-ons to aftermarket performance slip-ons with out a Fuel air adjustment.

Your motor will thank you for putting them back in. Next step isn't the SEST, IT'S TO GTF OUT OF THAT IDIOT DEALER, and find another!!! He hasn't told ya anything right yet. Why would you let him touch your bike!!! FTD!!! ;)

Hoist! 8)
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: amigo Jorge on October 10, 2008, 07:02:33 PM
Welcome from South Florida to this great site  :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: Hugh Janis on October 11, 2008, 05:37:30 AM
Congratulations on the bike.  Welcome the site from western NY.  It looks like you are on the road to dealer recovery.  You'll learn a lot here.  Even about helicopter repair (you aren't the only mechanic!), see 'HML'.
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: DAD on October 11, 2008, 11:04:32 PM
Welcome to CVO Harley from Southern Indiana!   :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: new 2009 CVO FAT BOB owners-comments - questions -shared info/discoveries
Post by: Capo on October 12, 2008, 11:35:36 AM
Hello : Syoder76 here (Sean ) . Still learning how to use this sight, so forgive me if I am out of place.
Just bout my second Harley [ 2009 CVO FAT BOB Screamin Eagle 110 ] . I launched a search for info for slip ons and came to your sight. Through my readings, I discovered Rush ,2-1/2 baffles. Today I went to a Harley dealer and found that all of the hired help new nothing of this topic. All of there 08 catalogs are of no help unless you ask them to call the actual maker of the slip on you want. Turns out Rush indeed makes a specific slip-on for the 09 CVO Fat Bob. How ever, I chose the 2" baffle verses the 2-1/2 because I want some back pressure to help preserved the engine in the long run. In my opinion based on many different opinions of Harley service techs , is that to little or no back pressure can not only result in running hot , but also could result in a loss of horse power.
  My dealer ( whom I will no longer deal with ) talked me out of slip ons and told me they would remove the baffles to achieve the same results ( good loud sound ).
Well, I am here to say it sounds great, but pops excessively during throttle down. I called another dealer closer to me and they said that was wrong to do. They said that dealer should have never advised that. They said the engine will run hot.
  That brings me to a side thought : I thought popping , also known as back firing was and explosion of excess gas in the exhaust system. I am being told that removing the baffles made the engine run lean. If its running lean, where is the back firing coming from ?
  Now, back to the topic of getting better sound out of the Fat Bob.   Ask your parts advisers to call the makers.  You will achieve better results. Most makers of parts and ECMs/tuners haven't even updated there web sights yet.
  I also found out that the "Model 5 " power commander will not be out till October. The "Thunder Max " ECM while a great expensive product that produces excellent results, binds me to my certified mechanic. It also is a pain to restart the bike if you disconnect the power. If You don't restart the bike in a specific manor, you will loose the program in the "Thunder Max " ECM. So , I went with Harley's Sreamin Eagle Tuner. A four hour dyno tuned process, that keeps the original EC M.
 I also have an 08 Victory and formerly owned a 06 Fat Boy. Both ran much much smother that the 09 Fat BOB. That being said , I love the performance of the 110 engine and the fit of the bike to my 5-8" frame.
Any thoughts or advice or corrections is welcome...please.



Sean,
Benvenutti la famiglia CVO from the Great Pacific North West! Hang on to your wallet.

 :worthless:

Ride Safe!  :coolblue: