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CVO Social => New Member Introduction => Topic started by: syoder76 on October 07, 2008, 10:44:24 PM
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Hello : Syoder76 here (Sean ) . Still learning how to use this sight, so forgive me if I am out of place.
Just bout my second Harley [ 2009 CVO FAT BOB Screamin Eagle 110 ] . I launched a search for info for slip ons and came to your sight. Through my readings, I discovered Rush ,2-1/2 baffles. Today I went to a Harley dealer and found that all of the hired help new nothing of this topic. All of there 08 catalogs are of no help unless you ask them to call the actual maker of the slip on you want. Turns out Rush indeed makes a specific slip-on for the 09 CVO Fat Bob. How ever, I chose the 2" baffle verses the 2-1/2 because I want some back pressure to help preserved the engine in the long run. In my opinion based on many different opinions of Harley service techs , is that to little or no back pressure can not only result in running hot , but also could result in a loss of horse power.
My dealer ( whom I will no longer deal with ) talked me out of slip ons and told me they would remove the baffles to achieve the same results ( good loud sound ).
Well, I am here to say it sounds great, but pops excessively during throttle down. I called another dealer closer to me and they said that was wrong to do. They said that dealer should have never advised that. They said the engine will run hot.
That brings me to a side thought : I thought popping , also known as back firing was and explosion of excess gas in the exhaust system. I am being told that removing the baffles made the engine run lean. If its running lean, where is the back firing coming from ?
Now, back to the topic of getting better sound out of the Fat Bob. Ask your parts advisers to call the makers. You will achieve better results. Most makers of parts and ECMs/tuners haven't even updated there web sights yet.
I also found out that the "Model 5 " power commander will not be out till October. The "Thunder Max " ECM while a great expensive product that produces excellent results, binds me to my certified mechanic. It also is a pain to restart the bike if you disconnect the power. If You don't restart the bike in a specific manor, you will loose the program in the "Thunder Max " ECM. So , I went with Harley's Sreamin Eagle Tuner. A four hour dyno tuned process, that keeps the original EC M.
I also have an 08 Victory and formerly owned a 06 Fat Boy. Both ran much much smother that the 09 Fat BOB. That being said , I love the performance of the 110 engine and the fit of the bike to my 5-8" frame.
Any thoughts or advice or corrections is welcome...please.
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laissez les bon temps rouler - from Bourbon St, New Orleans!
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Howdy & welcome to the site from southern Florida! If it's info you need, you came to the right place.
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Bienvenue Welcome from Quebec
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Welcome aboard from New Zealand. :drink:
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Welcome from Brussels,Belgium
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Good morning Sean,
:welcome_005: on the CVO website :2vrolijk_21:
But :worthless: of your bikes
I send you the :welcome_005: from FRANCE
Best regards
:vrolijk_26: Jacques
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Welcome to the site glad to have you join us. :2vrolijk_21:
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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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Sean,
Welcome to the site from The Lowcountry of South Carolina!
Mike
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Welcome to the site from - Moss - Norway! :coolblue:
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Welcome to the site.
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hi Sean, greetings from switzerland, many thanks for the info in ur 1st post, best of luck with ur ride
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Welcome to the site, Sean! :2vrolijk_21: Glad you have joined us!
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Welcome aboard from Northern Virginia...you will find answers to your questions in other threads, such as Intake/Exhaust, Twin Cam, ect...congratulations on a great ride!
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Welcome from Minnesota! Ride safe.
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Welcome from Oklahoma!
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Welcome aboard from Santa Monica, CA Sean!!
You'll learn more perusing this site for one day than in a year of conversations with dealer.....
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Sean, welcome to the site from South Carolina! :bananarock:
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syoder76 welcome aboard :2vrolijk_21:
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I went with the Power Commander III and Rush Slip-Ons (2") on my SE Fat Bob. Never discussed it with my dealer. Which color did you get syoder76? If my count is right there are 2 Yellow, 1 Blue, and 2 Black on the site now. Lets see some pics! :worthless:
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Welcome to the site from New Jersey.
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Welcome to the CVO site from Washington State. :bananarock:
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Thanks for the warm welcome. Hope I didn't bore anyone with my long intro. Anyway , I work 7 days a week for the mighty U.S ARMY, repairing Chinook twin blade helicopters, so i Will only be on for a short time , here and there.
To ryr8828dj : I got the red and black. Or , should I say rust color and black. When I learn how to import pics to this sight I will load them the minute I get a chance.
Question : Can I put the original baffles back in with out the glass packing ? The dealer ship threw the packing away. I was thinking of nut and bolt at the aft end of the original slip ons while I wait for my Rush slip ons . Any advice ?
Thanks every one...Sean from South Jersey
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welcome from northwest nj :2vrolijk_21:
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Welcome to the site from Stavanger, Norway :)
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Took your advice, every one. I put the stock baffles back in till my Rush slip-ons come in. Also hooked up my Gerbings heated gear. Works great. Gonna break the bike in properly, then I already have an appointment for the Harley Screemin Eagle Super Tuner , when I install my Rush slip-ons.
Once again , today, I was still being told from my selling dealer that the 110 already has the "Hot Down load ". He said the tuner was a waist of money. I disagree.
You can't go from stock slip-ons to aftermarket performance slip-ons with out a Fuel air adjustment.
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Yeah it is possible to install the aftermarket exhaust without a tuner on this bike... it's already got the heavy breather. But the stock ECM dogs the engine so much you'll be glad you've got the abilty to offer up some more torque.
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Took your advice, every one. I put the stock baffles back in till my Rush slip-ons come in. Also hooked up my Gerbings heated gear. Works great. Gonna break the bike in properly, then I already have an appointment for the Harley Screemin Eagle Super Tuner , when I install my Rush slip-ons.
Once again , today, I was still being told from my selling dealer that the 110 already has the "Hot Down load ". He said the tuner was a waist of money. I disagree.
You can't go from stock slip-ons to aftermarket performance slip-ons with out a Fuel air adjustment.
Your motor will thank you for putting them back in. Next step isn't the SEST, IT'S TO GTF OUT OF THAT IDIOT DEALER, and find another!!! He hasn't told ya anything right yet. Why would you let him touch your bike!!! FTD!!! ;)
Hoist! 8)
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Welcome from South Florida to this great site :2vrolijk_21:
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Congratulations on the bike. Welcome the site from western NY. It looks like you are on the road to dealer recovery. You'll learn a lot here. Even about helicopter repair (you aren't the only mechanic!), see 'HML'.
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Welcome to CVO Harley from Southern Indiana! :2vrolijk_21:
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Hello : Syoder76 here (Sean ) . Still learning how to use this sight, so forgive me if I am out of place.
Just bout my second Harley [ 2009 CVO FAT BOB Screamin Eagle 110 ] . I launched a search for info for slip ons and came to your sight. Through my readings, I discovered Rush ,2-1/2 baffles. Today I went to a Harley dealer and found that all of the hired help new nothing of this topic. All of there 08 catalogs are of no help unless you ask them to call the actual maker of the slip on you want. Turns out Rush indeed makes a specific slip-on for the 09 CVO Fat Bob. How ever, I chose the 2" baffle verses the 2-1/2 because I want some back pressure to help preserved the engine in the long run. In my opinion based on many different opinions of Harley service techs , is that to little or no back pressure can not only result in running hot , but also could result in a loss of horse power.
My dealer ( whom I will no longer deal with ) talked me out of slip ons and told me they would remove the baffles to achieve the same results ( good loud sound ).
Well, I am here to say it sounds great, but pops excessively during throttle down. I called another dealer closer to me and they said that was wrong to do. They said that dealer should have never advised that. They said the engine will run hot.
That brings me to a side thought : I thought popping , also known as back firing was and explosion of excess gas in the exhaust system. I am being told that removing the baffles made the engine run lean. If its running lean, where is the back firing coming from ?
Now, back to the topic of getting better sound out of the Fat Bob. Ask your parts advisers to call the makers. You will achieve better results. Most makers of parts and ECMs/tuners haven't even updated there web sights yet.
I also found out that the "Model 5 " power commander will not be out till October. The "Thunder Max " ECM while a great expensive product that produces excellent results, binds me to my certified mechanic. It also is a pain to restart the bike if you disconnect the power. If You don't restart the bike in a specific manor, you will loose the program in the "Thunder Max " ECM. So , I went with Harley's Sreamin Eagle Tuner. A four hour dyno tuned process, that keeps the original EC M.
I also have an 08 Victory and formerly owned a 06 Fat Boy. Both ran much much smother that the 09 Fat BOB. That being said , I love the performance of the 110 engine and the fit of the bike to my 5-8" frame.
Any thoughts or advice or corrections is welcome...please.
Sean,
Benvenutti la famiglia CVO from the Great Pacific North West! Hang on to your wallet.
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Ride Safe! :coolblue: