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[JC]

Looks like they finally figured out how to get speakers in the Twin cooled models. Here is the link if you're interested.
http://www.harley-davidson.com/store/boom%21-audio-stage-i-ii-fairing-lower-speaker-kit

[skratch]

eww.  ugly.  but if you want tunes, i guess you gotta do what you gotta do.

[Jbbrown73]

Ugh....... they're ugly, but at least they would be functional.

[1roadking]

$1400 installed I'm out!!! Over $1000 for speakers,amp and wiring harness.

[Hondo2doc]

Hog tunes has had it for over year now I think give or take. And they work fantastic.


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[Enigmatic]

anyone have pics of hogtunes on their bike? HD is a day late and a dollar short for me. those are too small and kinda expensive, I think I'm gonna pull it all out and go aftermarket all the way. well, except the head unit

[CVODON]

$1400 installed I'm out!!! Over $1000 for speakers,amp and wiring harness.

Ad says the speakers and wiring harness is $299.00 and IF you have Boom II you need ++. I am not seeing the added amount to get to $1400.00. Where did I miss the other $1100.00? I am sure you are correct but help me out here. Did you contact a dealer regarding installation? That part I wouldn't need so what did they quote for labor.

[1roadking]

3 hours of labor the rest is parts amp wiring harness and speakers all seperate.

[bigchuck]

3 hours of labor the rest is parts amp wiring harness and speakers all seperate.

Don't forget to add the cost of upgrading the speakers when those pos Harley ones take a crap

[Mr D]

$1400 installed I'm out!!! Over $1000 for speakers,amp and wiring harness.

 

I have stage 1 Boom speakers, was looking to add these to my TK... Seems like way to much!

[CVODON]

I just think this does not add up. Did the dealer you talked to verify all these charges? Who was the dealer? Nothing in the fitment tab that says all this extra parts are required and it being such a new part I just wonder if this is something a dealer parts guy guessed at.
Thanks

[ultrarider123]

I just think this does not add up. Did the dealer you talked to verify all these charges? Who was the dealer? Nothing in the fitment tab that says all this extra parts are required and it being such a new part I just wonder if this is something a dealer parts guy guessed at.
Thanks

I'm gonna agree with Don here.  $1,400 is WAY too much for speakers that "snap" into place.  The wiring harness routing and connection to the factory system would be maybe an hour labor UNLESS the MoCo has put that connection plug under the seat then tank removal and other things.  Removing the faring isn't that hard anymore but I wouldn't put it past the MoCo to make a simple install as complicated as possible.  Still, that $1,400 quote sure sounds way off I would think.....

Reading the "fitment" blurb listed for these $299 speakers may shed light on the $1,400 install costs?

Fits '14-later FLHTCU-TC, FLHTK, FLHTKL, FLHTKSE, FLHXSE, FLTRU and FLTRUSE models with Twin-Cooled engines. Use on vehicles equipped with Stage II Boom!™ Audio systems requires the separate purchase of Boom!™ Audio amplifier Kit P/N 76000277A and Speaker Installation Kit P/N 76000586 or 76000749. FLHXSE models require separate purchase of Installation Kit P/N 76000734. Does not fit FLHXSE models equipped with Tour-Paks. Does not fit FLHTKSE models equipped with Boom!™ Audio Stage II. Not compatible with Screamin' Eagle® Heavy Breather Kits.

[Hondo2doc]

anyone have pics of hogtunes on their bike? HD is a day late and a dollar short for me. those are too small and kinda expensive, I think I'm gonna pull it all out and go aftermarket all the way. well, except the head unit

I have the hig tunes on my 2015 SESG I'll get some pics for ya and post them up in he next day or so.


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[Hondo2doc]

If I recall the speakers, pods and wiring harnesses from hog tunes were right around 300 bucks give or take. I added and aftermarket amp (an amp is a must) there is a small place for an amp inside the batwing fairing. Had my local sound guy connect every thing up I think when I was done it was right around $ 750.00 for everything. Completely installed and done. The Hogtune speakers offer a different tone than the boom II that cuts right through engine and wind noise. Now one issue that didn't matter to me. Because I didn't use an additional Boom amp and have Harley connect everything up the Hogtune speakers do not work with the AVC when you slow or stop. Now that doesn't bother me at all. I am sorry I don't recall the make of the amp I used but it was a perfect size and power too. I had another buddy I ride with that also has a 2015 SESG do the exact same thing and he loves it. It amazing how much lower I run the volume with the added speakers even at 80 plus MPH.


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[Hondo2doc]

I have the hog tunes on my 2015 SESG I'll get some pics for ya and post them up in he next day or so.


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[vipertestarossa]

I would be interested in seeing those pics as well

[1roadking]

Amp is around $400 speakers $299 wiring harnesses $349 plus a misc part that goes over the battery. Parts alone are almost $1100 the amp goes in the right saddle bag and everything gets connected. That's why the labor is 3 hours.  The reason I want factory speakers is the way the Boom II system works. It constantly reads and adjust everything to equalize the sound and I'm concerned different speakers will through it out of wack.

[Mr D]

Amp is around $400 speakers $299 wiring harnesses $349 plus a misc part that goes over the battery. Parts alone are almost $1100 the amp goes in the right saddle bag and everything gets connected. That's why the labor is 3 hours.  The reason I want factory speakers is the way the Boom II system works. It constantly reads and adjust everything to equalize the sound and I'm concerned different speakers will through it out of wack.

If one adds saddle bag lid speakers, where's that amp located? & that cost has to be more with color matched lids needed 

[Jbbrown73]

From what I can tell from the Harley website my FLTRUSE does not require the amp to be added. I took the plunge and ordered the speaker kit from surdyke.com (20% off). I will report back to the forum here once I get them and see what the instructions say.

[1roadking]

I can't see how you wouldn't need or want the AMP. They seem to have been designed for an AMP.

[CVODON]

I called this morning and spoke to local dealer, No amp required per him on 15 RGCVO. NO additional wiring harness needed other than the necessary harness that is included with the speakers which clip in. Installation would only require removal of outer fairing, which is pretty easy, that I know.
He may be wrong, but even if it takes a dealer flash to activate, that is pretty minor. He could find no additional harness even listed and nothing to do with any kind of kit around the battery. They have a speaker kit ordered for another guy and will call me when it comes in and I will go by and check it out, if it is as simple (and cheap) as they say I will have to have them for $240 after discount.
NONE of this applies if you have Boom II, then you do need an amp and additional stuff. I do not have Boom ll and do not intend to buy it.

[Enigmatic]

after reviewing the specs again. they probably will work without additional amps on boom II equipped bikes. the speakers are 4 ohm, so they shouldn't add or decrease load enough to upset the amp(that is if the factory amp is of any decent quality lol).

[Hondo2doc]

Here are my hogtunes speakers on my 2015 SESG


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[Enigmatic]

Here are my hogtunes speakers on my 2015 SESG


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thanks!!! those look really good! just curious, do you think you could fit another brand of speaker in the housing? most guys i know tend to skip hogtunes in favor of higher end car or marine audio. but I do like the look of them.

[Hondo2doc]

Well I don't know about a different brand speaker fitting hogtunes pods. I know hogtunes ain't known for their high end speakers. But I will say this me and a friend of mine who is a sound freak were amazingly surprised how powerful the little guys were. And additionally their particular tone which is a midrange cuts right through the wind and exhaust noise. To the point I had to regularly turn down the volume when I first installed them. And that's rare cause I am half deaf any way. Hogtunes pods come flat black. I had my painted vivid black. Even though my bike is the carbon crystal with phantom flames. The vivid black looked fine to me next to the lowers.


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[CVODON]

Looks very nice.

[Enigmatic]

Good look, good info. Thanks again Hondo


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[Hondo2doc]

Thanks Don and Enigmatic......


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[Enigmatic]

For those still interested, I went to the dealership yesterday to check on the installation of the lower speakers, and according to their parts list, a new amp and harness IS needed. the new amp will be mounted in the right saddlebag and it's $699 for the kit in the Motor Accessories catalog. So it is indeed quite expensive.

[pooj10]

Well I just received everything for my Boom Audio lower fairing speaker install on my FLHXSE. With an additional aftermarket one year warranty on every component came to a  total of $936.00. I am doing it myself so I have no labor charge except for the dealer to enable the six speaker system. I just need to find some time on the weekend to do it before opening day of archery season.

[fastfreddy]

waiting and hoping the RGU will not need the amp/wire kit...any news thnx

[Enigmatic]

waiting and hoping the RGU will not need the amp/wire kit...any news thnx

Unless you already have an amp with 2 free channels, you're probably gonna need it.


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[CVODON]

Well I just received everything for my Boom Audio lower fairing speaker install on my FLHXSE. With an additional aftermarket one year warranty on every component came to a  total of $936.00. I am doing it myself so I have no labor charge except for the dealer to enable the six speaker system. I just need to find some time on the weekend to do it before opening day of archery season.

Is this using the new clip-in speakers or the complete lower speaker kit with the smooth enclosures? Do you have the part #'s available for what you recieved?
Thanks

[Phreakyz]

Pooj10 -    Wondering if you ever completed the install and what, if any, snags did you encounter?  Did you have the system flashed as the Amp states is required?    Did the flash add anything to the infotainment display or was it just to activate the amp? Also was it worth it?  And do you have any pics??     

Thanks!

[pooj10]

Yes, I did complete the install and had it flashed today. It was a bit of a challenge! I found some errors as I installed. First on my 2015 CVO Street Glide, I needed to order the WIRE HARNESS,AMP INPUT - 69201477 with lower fairing speakers for a 2015 FLHXSE just like the tour pack speakers as there is nowhere to plug the Secondary amplifier input [296] at the 20 pin connector for lighting and audio. There was not enough slack for the saddle bag speaker harness to reach the bottom connector when it was relocated per the template. I had to swap locations with the amp output for the lower fairing speakers. The main amp connector is located in the original speaker connector location for the saddle bag speaker. When cutting this hole in the saddle bag it leaves part of the mounting holes on both sides of the connector. I cut this very close and file fit the connector, but it does not look very professional. It really needs a trim ring around the connector on the outside of the saddle bag. Just finding room to route all the wiring and keep it clean is a real challenge!!  The harness has multiple speaker connections, so I clipped the extras off and capped  the wires so I did not have to zip tie a bunch of extra wire and try to hide it. I did not photo the install. As to whether it was worth it or not, my wife and I took a ride tonight and she said it seems more clear and significantly louder. At the end of the day the 1K was worth it to me to keep everything oem and working together.

[SDCVO]

I am instaling Focals in the lowers using the HD stock "stuff" to install and swapping the speakers. Unfortunately the kit comes with the Boom speakers which i will sell with all the other Boom speakers and amps after swapping. I will post up pics when complete.

[Phreakyz]

Yes, I did complete the install and had it flashed today. It was a bit of a challenge! I found some errors as I installed....

Thanks for the Update and the great tips!    Last week I ordered all of the stuff to upgrade my 2016 CVO Street Glide -   Everything is in except for the speakers themselves.   The instructions recommended the flash before the install, stating that immediate damage will occur to the speakers if you try to operate the system before the flash??   I think I will have the dealer flash it when I pick everything up.   I will let you know how things go!

[dm930]

Yes, I did complete the install and had it flashed today. It was a bit of a challenge! I found some errors as I installed. First on my 2015 CVO Street Glide, I needed to order the WIRE HARNESS,AMP INPUT - 69201477 with lower fairing speakers for a 2015 FLHXSE just like the tour pack speakers as there is nowhere to plug the Secondary amplifier input [296] at the 20 pin connector for lighting and audio. There was not enough slack for the saddle bag speaker harness to reach the bottom connector when it was relocated per the template. I had to swap locations with the amp output for the lower fairing speakers. The main amp connector is located in the original speaker connector location for the saddle bag speaker. When cutting this hole in the saddle bag it leaves part of the mounting holes on both sides of the connector. I cut this very close and file fit the connector, but it does not look very professional. It really needs a trim ring around the connector on the outside of the saddle bag. Just finding room to route all the wiring and keep it clean is a real challenge!!  The harness has multiple speaker connections, so I clipped the extras off and capped  the wires so I did not have to zip tie a bunch of extra wire and try to hide it. I did not photo the install. As to whether it was worth it or not, my wife and I took a ride tonight and she said it seems more clear and significantly louder. At the end of the day the 1K was worth it to me to keep everything oem and working together.

Can you post some detailed photos?

 

[fastfreddy]

any body done their install on a RGU yet

[Phreakyz]

Can you post some detailed photos?

 

Completed the install on my 2016 CVO Street Glide.   First of all,  BIG THANKS to POOJ10 for the Jumper Harness part number!   My dealer did not have this part in stock and could tell me nothing about it!   It is not noted in the instructions nor on Harley's website.  I could find no pictures of it on Google.   I found a dealer on the locator that had it and sent him pictures of what I was up against and he compared the pics to the harness to confirm that is what I needed.     Cost me another 77.00 bucks and shipping so make sure you budget for that!

Next -   I could not have the system flashed prior to the install because the Radio needed to be flashed first and then each of the 3 amps had to be flashed.    They must be installed in order to do this.  I completed the install and just left the Amp in the RH saddlebag disconnected for the trip to the dealer.   

I was able to watch the tech at the dealership while the flashing was performed.    When you hook up the Digital Technician to the Data Link, it automatically recognizes your model, year and VIN and gives them a menu to pick for the different configurations.    The tech had to change the drop down to "3 amps" before he could see the option to re-flash for "Fairing, Saddlebag & Lower Fairing speakers."    Once he flashed the radio, it set communication error codes for the 3 amps.   He then went through the process for re-flashing each of the 3 amps (Took about 2 and a half minutes for each amp!)   

After everything was flashed the system works beautifully!   The Fader function on the infotainment system has changed to a diagram of the bike that you can touch to move the sound around.

The system now sounds amazing!    Very Loud,  Very Clear and Very Powerful!   You can feel the "Thump!"  Plus the new speakers look Bad Ass!

I took some pics of the main things to know -   The rest you can pretty much figure out from the istructions

The part numbers I used are: 
Boom! Audio Stage II Fairing Lower Speaker Installation Kit
76000586

Boom! Audio Amplifier
76000277A

Boom! Audio Stage I/II Fairing Lower Speaker Kit
76000660

Boom! Audio Stage I/II Fairing Lower Speaker Installation Kit
76000734

20 Pin Jumper Harness for Amp Input
69201477

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[dm930]

Thanks for the update and the pics!   

[pooj10]

Can you post some detailed photos?

 

Hope this helps explain on the 2015.

[pooj10]

Can you post some detailed photos?

 

Here is another photo.

[Phreakyz]

Hope this helps explain on the 2015.

I see what you were talking about now.   The 15's have a completely different saddlebag speaker connector than the 16's.   With the lack of mentioning the jumper harness for the amp input, and the issues you encountered with the connector being too short,  it seems like they rushed the kit out without doing all of their research!   Other than that I am happy with the upgrade though and my bike sounds awesome!  When I got home from the dealership my ears were ringing as if I had been at a concert and stood too close to the stage!   Thanks again for the part number for the jumper,   I would still have been stuck because the dealer had no idea what I was talking about or what I might have needed!

[pooj10]

Glad I could help! The only way I caught it was looking at the photo for tour pack speaker harness. It showed a 20 pin connector to 20 pin connector with a breakout. I did put comments on the HD parts website so hopefully nobody else runs into this issue. I agree though, the sound clarity is now significantly better and louder. Nice job on documenting your install!

[fastfreddy]

   RGU install yet 

[Jbbrown73]

You absolutely DO have to have the amp for a CVO Road Glide Ultra. The directions are so vague my local dealer's tech had to call and open a case with Harley because when he went to flash it, he could not add the 6 or 8 speaker option. The RGU has a Stage 2 Boom system, and anything with a Stage 2 system has to have an amp.

[fastfreddy]

Your saying you have stage 2 and another amp is is needed for the fairing speakers??  Or ?? A lill confused ....

[OBB]

You absolutely DO have to have the amp for a CVO Road Glide Ultra. The directions are so vague my local dealer's tech had to call and open a case with Harley because when he went to flash it, he could not add the 6 or 8 speaker option. The RGU has a Stage 2 Boom system, and anything with a Stage 2 system has to have an amp.

Your saying you have stage 2 and another amp is is needed for the fairing speakers??  Or ?? A lill confused ....

There's 3 stages of the Boom system.
Standard - No amp
Stage 1 - One 300 watt amp
Stage 2 - Two 300 watt amps with the stage 2 speakers.


RGU and the Limited both have the Stage I system with only one 300 watt amp and stage I speakers. On either of these bikes you would need to add another amp to power the lower speakers.  Kiss one of your saddlebags goodbye as it's going to take up a little room there.

Other option is to find a 6 channel amp that will fit under the radio replacing the stock amp that's in there now but you will not have  fader controls.


Even a Stage 2 bike like the SESG that already has 2 amps still needs a 3rd amp added for those lower speakers.

[fastfreddy]

thanx OBB, had fingers crossed that the LF speakers would be a painless deal. but not so. like what is there .... as always more is better

[eric5582]

Does your amp harness firmly "click or lock" together? I just completed my install and am not satisfied with this huge connector that doesn't even seem to lock together.

[mturner2003]

It took a bit of elbow grease to get it to lock together. But it will click together. Have fun getting it un-done when taking your bag off   

[eric5582]

Ugh, Ive seen so many connecters that are way better and more compact these days. Would of made sense to have a round opening for the main connector!  Thanks for the input!!

[Phreakyz]

It took a bit of elbow grease to get it to lock together. But it will click together. Have fun getting it un-done when taking your bag off   

Agreed -   Drives me nuts !    I did lubricate the connector's rubber seal with dielectric silicone grease and that helped snapping it together a bunch.    Still hard to separate for cleaning though....

[Jbbrown73]

I ended up doing the 2nd amp under the tour pack. Out of sight out of mind.

[fastfreddy]

I ended up doing the 2nd amp under the tour pack. Out of sight out of mind.

so you did the stage 2 with the lower fairing speakers....and now have 2 amps under the TP,

[Trigger-Man]

so you did the stage 2 with the lower fairing speakers....and now have 2 amps under the TP,

HAHAHA ! As OBB pointed out, the 2015/6 CVO Road Glide and CVO Limited bikes come equipped with BOOM! Stage I audio systems which have a single amp under the front fairing. There's no amp under the Tourpak with the stock Stage I setup. The confusion possibility exists because the Twin Cooled Fairing lower speakers are not biamped and thus work with either Stage I or Stage II setups .

I ended up doing the 2nd amp under the tour pack. Out of sight out of mind.

So long as Jbbrown stays with the Stage I audio system, his LF speaker installation needs only one more amp .......which can be mounted in his choice of either saddlebag or under the Tourpak. I agree that the Tourpak location is cleaner ......particularly as the saddlebag location requires another wire harness to disconnect when removing that saddlebag .

[King Glide]

So let me throw out another angle. Could you connect LF speakers without the extra amp if you have removed your tourpak and the speakers attached to it, plugging the LF speakers into the amp as if they were the tourpak speakers? Assuming you rarely used the tourpak and you are happy with boom I.

[Trigger-Man]

That should work King Glide👍

[fastfreddy]

TRIG, your saying the LF speakers can be installed with stage 1, im just trying to find out if this is possible or not. im content with the stage 1 on my 16 RGU... but i would like to add the LF speaks BUT am not going to dump a ton of cash to do it (stage 2 blabla amp bla bla bla) thnx FF. if you have some insight to this please share.

[Jbbrown73]

So let me throw out another angle. Could you connect LF speakers without the extra amp if you have removed your tourpak and the speakers attached to it, plugging the LF speakers into the amp as if they were the tourpak speakers? Assuming you rarely used the tourpak and you are happy with boom I.

That should work, however I don't think there is a way to do it without doing some "creative" wiring. To my knowledge Harley doesn't have a plug-n-play solution to that end.

[Jbbrown73]

TRIG, your saying the LF speakers can be installed with stage 1, im just trying to find out if this is possible or not. im content with the stage 1 on my 16 RGU... but i would like to add the LF speaks BUT am not going to dump a ton of cash to do it (stage 2 blabla amp bla bla bla) thnx FF. if you have some insight to this please share.

You CANNOT add the LF speakers on a 16RGU without adding an amp.

[fastfreddy]

JB thats what i thuoght, then TRIGGRE says it can be be done with only stage 1, so confused  ... TRIG you know some thing more about this, im all ears 

[Trigger-Man]

TRIG, your saying the LF speakers can be installed with stage 1, im just trying to find out if this is possible or not. im content with the stage 1 on my 16 RGU... but i would like to add the LF speaks BUT am not going to dump a ton of cash to do it (stage 2 blabla amp bla bla bla) thnx FF. if you have some insight to this please share.

Hey fastfreddy .........while this subject has proven to be confusing, the way I see it the LF speakers can be installed on your Stage I equipped 2016 FLTRUSE if you also install these additional harnesses:
FLTRUSE and FLHTCUTG models require jumper (Part Number 69200489) and interconnect (Part No. 69200714). And for vehicles with Stage I a speaker expansion kit is required to enable six or eight speakers (not sure what this is??).
See the installation instructions:
https://serviceinfo.harley-davidson.com/sip/service/document/60700

You CANNOT add the LF speakers on a 16RGU without adding an amp.

Hey Jbbrown73, I'm thinking these instructions refer to an amplifier installation which I'm thinking only applies if you're adding this kit to a Stage II system ! As some of the Harley techs are confused about this .......why shouldn't we be confused as well LOL !

That should work, however I don't think there is a way to do it without doing some "creative" wiring. To my knowledge Harley doesn't have a plug-n-play solution to that end.

That was in response to King Glide's question about somehow wiring the LF speakers into and in lieu of the TourPak speaker connectors. I agree with your "creative wiring" comment .

[fastfreddy]

thnx TRIG, think ill stop in at to my local HD shop to find out if they have learned any thing more than they knew last time i chatted with them

[Jbbrown73]

Hey fastfreddy .........while this subject has proven to be confusing, the way I see it the LF speakers can be installed on your Stage I equipped 2016 FLTRUSE if you also install these additional harnesses:
FLTRUSE and FLHTCUTG models require jumper (Part Number 69200489) and interconnect (Part No. 69200714). And for vehicles with Stage I a speaker expansion kit is required to enable six or eight speakers (not sure what this is??).
See the installation instructions:
https://serviceinfo.harley-davidson.com/sip/service/document/60700
Hey Jbbrown73, I'm thinking these instructions refer to an amplifier installation which I'm thinking only applies if you're adding this kit to a Stage II system ! As some of the Harley techs are confused about this .......why shouldn't we be confused as well LOL !
That was in response to King Glide's question about somehow wiring the LF speakers into and in lieu of the TourPak speaker connectors. I agree with your "creative wiring" comment .

I interpreted these instructions the same way as above, and so did the Harley tech. I bought the speakers, and the 2 harnesses referenced in the speaker's instructions. I took it all to Harley, they installed the speakers and the harnesses and the tech went to flash to "enable" the additional speakers. When there was not an option for that the tech called Harley. Harley explained the stage 1 kit on the CVO Road Glide Ultra is a 4 channel amp, and adding 2 more speakers required the additional amp. No way around it. So at this point I was already in too deep to stop. So, adding the amp I did. I went for under the tour pack so it didn't interfere with my bags.

[fastfreddy]

Jb, so you went down this road... i take it you have stage 1 with LF speakers and an amp for the LFs. what was the total bill on that if i can ask

[ptnlinda]

This certainly is confusing. I want to add these speakers to my FLHTKSE and as the fitting instructions say:-

"CVO Ultra and Trike: Insert 6920714 (unless already in place) into connector [162] behind passenger seat.
Connect socket side 4-way to speaker expansion harness audio [297] and 4-way pin side to socket side of 69200489 jumper. Connect pin side of 69200489 jumper to wire harness from this kit (10).
Unless previously installed, connect vehicle connector [296] (4-way pin side Molex under seat) to 296 (4-way socket side) of speaker expansion kit.

All models except 2015 and later FLHXSE: Proceed to the COMPLETION Section of this document.
COMPLETION
NOTE
To prevent possible damage to the sound system, verify that the ignition switch is OFF before attaching the battery cables.
WARNING
Connect positive (+) battery cable first. If positive (+) cable should contact ground with negative (-) cable connected, the resulting sparks can cause a battery explosion, which could result in death or serious injury. (00068a)
Apply a light coat of petroleum jelly or corrosion retardant material to battery terminals.
Install the ECM caddy per the service manual.
See the service manual. Install seat. After installing seat, pull up on the seat to verify that it is secure.
Install main fuse.
Have a Harley-Davidson dealer update the radio EQ using Digital Technician II."

No where does it say we need to add an extra amplifier when installing these on a FLHTKSE. You just instal with accessory wiring harness's then get Boom reflashed by dealer.

[Trigger-Man]

This certainly is confusing. I want to add these speakers to my FLHTKSE and as the fitting instructions say:-

"CVO Ultra and Trike: Insert 6920714 (unless already in place) into connector [162] behind passenger seat.
Connect socket side 4-way to speaker expansion harness audio [297] and 4-way pin side to socket side of 69200489 jumper. Connect pin side of 69200489 jumper to wire harness from this kit (10).
Unless previously installed, connect vehicle connector [296] (4-way pin side Molex under seat) to 296 (4-way socket side) of speaker expansion kit.

All models except 2015 and later FLHXSE: Proceed to the COMPLETION Section of this document.
COMPLETION
NOTE
To prevent possible damage to the sound system, verify that the ignition switch is OFF before attaching the battery cables.
WARNING
Connect positive (+) battery cable first. If positive (+) cable should contact ground with negative (-) cable connected, the resulting sparks can cause a battery explosion, which could result in death or serious injury. (00068a)
Apply a light coat of petroleum jelly or corrosion retardant material to battery terminals.
Install the ECM caddy per the service manual.
See the service manual. Install seat. After installing seat, pull up on the seat to verify that it is secure.
Install main fuse.
Have a Harley-Davidson dealer update the radio EQ using Digital Technician II."

No where does it say we need to add an extra amplifier when installing these on a FLHTKSE. You just instal with accessory wiring harness's then get Boom reflashed by dealer.

You're correct ptnlinda ......they should update the installation instructions for riders like us who read them prior to purchase......but then there are the "Harley realities" ::)LOL! Apparently the stock 300 watt Stage I amp has only four 75w channels serving the two pairs of 6.5" front fairing & TourPak speakers. Seems overkill to have to add another 300 watt four channel amp and use only two of the channels for smaller 4" LF speakers !

[ptnlinda]

Trigger-Man thanks for your input. I was wondering if the re-flash done by the Dealer actually powered one set of speakers from the Boom Box and the other 2 from the already installed amplifier. I have removed my tour pak with the 2 rear speakers so really only want to run the front Bat Wing speakers and lower fairing speakers when I fit them.

[OBB]

Trigger-Man thanks for your input. I was wondering if the re-flash done by the Dealer actually powered one set of speakers from the Boom Box and the other 2 from the already installed amplifier. I have removed my tour pak with the 2 rear speakers so really only want to run the front Bat Wing speakers and lower fairing speakers when I fit them.

The BoomBox itself doesn't power any speakers, the amp does so that explains why they want you to add another amp. Now that I see what you've done to your bike I'll offer this up. You should be able to make a harness or just run speaker wires from the rear speaker connections (where did you put those wires that fed the TP speakers?) to a set of Stage1 LF speakers if they make them. You can't run Stage2 LF speakers on 1/2 an amp which is what you have available now.
Other options:
   aftermarket 2ohm speakers for the LF fitted into the HD pods if you can find any.

I didn't go digging into all the Boom parts and harnesses so there may actually be something there to move the feed from the rear TP speakers to a set of LF speakers. Would be a nice option but would require fairing removal anytime you wanted to change back and forth.
   

[Trigger-Man]

Trigger-Man thanks for your input. I was wondering if the re-flash done by the Dealer actually powered one set of speakers from the Boom Box and the other 2 from the already installed amplifier. I have removed my tour pak with the 2 rear speakers so really only want to run the front Bat Wing speakers and lower fairing speakers when I fit them.

The BOOM! BOX 6.5GT Radio itself has a built-in internal amp rated at 25watts/channel for the basic (lower quality) 4 channel audio system, but as OBB said, it apparently "doesn't power any speakers" (when the optional 300 watt amp is connected). While it might seem theoreically "wasteful" to not be able to utilize those 100 watts, I'd speculate that it's not enough wattage to properly power the LF speakers.

As you've removed your TourPak and have no interest in rear speakers, as OBB suggested, you theoretically should be able to (creatively?) connect your LF speakers to the TourPak speaker cabling with all 4 speakers powered by your existng front fairing amp. Of course, this assumes you're running a Stage I system where a single amp supplies 75watts/channel to each of the 4 speakers. If you were to upgrade your system to Stage II, you'd need another 300watt amp (one for each pair of Stage II speakers). The LF speaker kit works for either Stage I or Stage II systems as per the kits instructions:

• Vehlcles with Stage I a speaker expansion kit is required to enable six or eight speakers (NA in your case as you still have 4 speakers).
• Vehicles with Stage II purchase of Lower Amplifier Kit (Part No. 76000277A). Lower Speaker Installation Kit (Part No. 76000586).

Good luck with this and let us know how it works out

[King Glide]

That is correct Triggerman, I have talked to "the Boom man" at my dealership and he told me if I just wanted my boom 1 system running LF speakers and no tourpak speakers running, I could run the wires straight to the amp in the fairing , pull the wiring connection plug from the amp, un pin the existing female pins 1 and 2 for the left side and pins 3 and 4 for the right side , and plug the new wires in and plug the block back into the amp, wire tie things and put the fairing back and you're done.

The color codes are the same on all the wires,  put them in the same position in the block.

[ptnlinda]

OBB
(where did you put those wires that fed the TP speakers?) The wires to the rear speakers are coiled up under the seat.

Trigger Mann
"Good luck with this and let us know how it works out". Thanks for your input again and will let you know how I go.

King Glide.
Appreciate your reply and this will probably be the solution I need which is along the lines OBB described in his post.

Again thanks to the three of you for your interest and reply to my posts.

[Jbbrown73]

Jb, so you went down this road... i take it you have stage 1 with LF speakers and an amp for the LFs. what was the total bill on that if i can ask

I got 20% off all the parts, so all in with labor was about $900.

[King Glide]

I ordered mine this afternoon along with a 16 pin deutch connector. I'm going to run my wires under the seat and pin them into the harness that connects the tourpak speakers, then if I want to go with the tourpak's set, it's just a plug in. If I want to go boomII I'll put the amp under the tourpak and hook it to the tp speakers. Inho, it makes more sense to put the fronts together on the main amp.

[McDirty33]

Completed the install on my 2016 CVO Street Glide.   First of all,  BIG THANKS to POOJ10 for the Jumper Harness part number!   My dealer did not have this part in stock and could tell me nothing about it!   It is not noted in the instructions nor on Harley's website.  I could find no pictures of it on Google.   I found a dealer on the locator that had it and sent him pictures of what I was up against and he compared the pics to the harness to confirm that is what I needed.     Cost me another 77.00 bucks and shipping so make sure you budget for that!

Next -   I could not have the system flashed prior to the install because the Radio needed to be flashed first and then each of the 3 amps had to be flashed.    They must be installed in order to do this.  I completed the install and just left the Amp in the RH saddlebag disconnected for the trip to the dealer.   

I was able to watch the tech at the dealership while the flashing was performed.    When you hook up the Digital Technician to the Data Link, it automatically recognizes your model, year and VIN and gives them a menu to pick for the different configurations.    The tech had to change the drop down to "3 amps" before he could see the option to re-flash for "Fairing, Saddlebag & Lower Fairing speakers."    Once he flashed the radio, it set communication error codes for the 3 amps.   He then went through the process for re-flashing each of the 3 amps (Took about 2 and a half minutes for each amp!)   

After everything was flashed the system works beautifully!   The Fader function on the infotainment system has changed to a diagram of the bike that you can touch to move the sound around.

The system now sounds amazing!    Very Loud,  Very Clear and Very Powerful!   You can feel the "Thump!"  Plus the new speakers look Bad Ass!

I took some pics of the main things to know -   The rest you can pretty much figure out from the istructions

The part numbers I used are: 
Boom! Audio Stage II Fairing Lower Speaker Installation Kit
76000586

Boom! Audio Amplifier
76000277A

Boom! Audio Stage I/II Fairing Lower Speaker Kit
76000660

Boom! Audio Stage I/II Fairing Lower Speaker Installation Kit
76000734

20 Pin Jumper Harness for Amp Input
69201477

I have a 2016 Street Glide CVO, just started the install last night and stumbled across this post. I think its going to help me a lot. I still have a few questions.
Got a good question for you here... did you have to upgrade the charging system? What did you do with the wires in the attached picture? Also I was wanting to know where the wires ran on the right side. I have mine going up and over the Bosch ABS module thing.

[Grizzly]

Possibly it is time for a Sound Off Competition?   

Boom Audio vs. Hog Tunes lower fairing speakers.

Don't forget to let us know the end cost of both systems.

Now all we need is two members who have these setups to post a YouTube video of the Sound Off.   

[Designflaw]

$1400 installed I'm out!!! Over $1000 for speakers,amp and wiring harness.

That was my thought exactly!  I bought a complete J&M RoKKer Xtreme 500watt amp, fairing speakers, rear lid speakers, and all the required mounting/wiring needed for that much for 14 SGS 

[bensonjv]

Does anyone know the specifics on why Harley has deemed this kit non-compatible with FLHTKSE with Stage II  Audio?  The only thing I could imagine was an amp storage issue but the FLHXSE fits everything in just fine; two amps in fairing and one in saddlebag.  Why would the Limited have more difficulty?  Could add the amp to the saddlebag same way or mount to bottom of tour-pak.

They show both an 8/4/1200 and 6/3/900 watt config for Stage II and you can install this on everything else except the CVO Limited and CVO SG with a tour-pak.  Fine if its a legit technical thing but I just don't like it when Harley simply says, no you can't do that and never explains why.  Besides, it might not be technical but rather marketing-based; to try to push you to a different model.  Of course, just for the speakers, install kit and amp you are in for about a grand.  That's a lot of money to spend on a "it might work" experiment.

There is precedent for my skepticism though.  I was told I could not install a CB (bike to bike) module or lighted switch kit on a 2017 SGS because it wouldn't work with the BOOM software version for that model.  I have to use the new Sena 20s.  And so on.  Yeah...it was plug and play and switches work without issue. 

Fits '14-later FLHTCU-TC, FLHTK, FLHTKL, FLHTKSE, FLTRU, FLTRUSE, and '14-'17 FLHXSE models with Twin-Cooled engines. Use on vehicles equipped with Stage II Boom!™ Audio systems requires the separate purchase of Boom!™ Audio amplifier Kit P/N 76000277A and Speaker Installation Kit P/N 76000586 or 76000749. FLHXSE models require separate purchase of Installation Kit P/N 76000734. Does not fit FLHXSE models equipped with Tour-Paks. Does not fit FLHTKSE models equipped with Boom!™ Audio Stage II. Not compatible with Screamin' Eagle® Heavy Breather Kits.

[bensonjv]

Going to answer my own question.  Got this response from a dealer service department via my salesman.  Actually makes the most sense.....sort of.

Two reasons it won't work:  First, it’s a safety issue with the added weight inside the fairing on the Limited.  For some reason that's not an issue on the StreetGlide. In addition, HD hasn’t programmed a flash code for the CVO limited radio configuration with the lower fairing speaker kit that encompasses stage II.

That's actually plausible and is part of the rationale for why I was told I could not do the CB in the StreetGlide with lighted switches.  The premise is that although the BOOM! 6.5 hardware is the same, the software config is different for each model and each trim package for each bike.  While we can conceive of infinite variations of accessorizing, Harley only creates and tests software configs for a small number of configurations.

Does anyone know the specifics on why Harley has deemed this kit non-compatible with FLHTKSE with Stage II  Audio?  The only thing I could imagine was an amp storage issue but the FLHXSE fits everything in just fine; two amps in fairing and one in saddlebag.  Why would the Limited have more difficulty?  Could add the amp to the saddlebag same way or mount to bottom of tour-pak.

They show both an 8/4/1200 and 6/3/900 watt config for Stage II and you can install this on everything else except the CVO Limited and CVO SG with a tour-pak.  Fine if its a legit technical thing but I just don't like it when Harley simply says, no you can't do that and never explains why.  Besides, it might not be technical but rather marketing-based; to try to push you to a different model.  Of course, just for the speakers, install kit and amp you are in for about a grand.  That's a lot of money to spend on a "it might work" experiment.

There is precedent for my skepticism though.  I was told I could not install a CB (bike to bike) module or lighted switch kit on a 2017 SGS because it wouldn't work with the BOOM software version for that model.  I have to use the new Sena 20s.  And so on.  Yeah...it was plug and play and switches work without issue. 

Fits '14-later FLHTCU-TC, FLHTK, FLHTKL, FLHTKSE, FLTRU, FLTRUSE, and '14-'17 FLHXSE models with Twin-Cooled engines. Use on vehicles equipped with Stage II Boom!™ Audio systems requires the separate purchase of Boom!™ Audio amplifier Kit P/N 76000277A and Speaker Installation Kit P/N 76000586 or 76000749. FLHXSE models require separate purchase of Installation Kit P/N 76000734. Does not fit FLHXSE models equipped with Tour-Paks. Does not fit FLHTKSE models equipped with Boom!™ Audio Stage II. Not compatible with Screamin' Eagle® Heavy Breather Kits.

[OBB]

Going to answer my own question.  Got this response from a dealer service department via my salesman.  Actually makes the most sense.....sort of.

Two reasons it won't work:  First, it’s a safety issue with the added weight inside the fairing on the Limited.  For some reason that's not an issue on the StreetGlide. In addition, HD hasn’t programmed a flash code for the CVO limited radio configuration with the lower fairing speaker kit that encompasses stage II.

That's actually plausible and is part of the rationale for why I was told I could not do the CB in the StreetGlide with lighted switches.  The premise is that although the BOOM! 6.5 hardware is the same, the software config is different for each model and each trim package for each bike.  While we can conceive of infinite variations of accessorizing, Harley only creates and tests software configs for a small number of configurations.

Dunno about that. When I added the 2nd amp to my '15 FLTRUSE and had my mechanic program the radio, there was an option for 1,2,3 or 4 amps in the software. Whether something changed in two model years or not, I don't know. But I highly doubt there were any changes.

[Glenncarp]

$1400 installed I'm out!!! Over $1000 for speakers,amp and wiring harness.

That's nuts!!! I spent $2K on Stage II upgrade. 4 speakers, amp and radio flash. $1400 for two speakers and and amp when you probably wont hear them at any speed over 40 MPH is wasted money  IMHO