Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Jetmech30]

Has anybody experienced stalls at low speed..The bike did not die but it hesitated halfway through  A turn had this happen twice..for all that have a new bike with his new engine be aware of this because it can happen  and it's happened to me..make sure you stay on the throttle!!

[cvosjoe]

Have occasionally noticed the same thing.

[Jetmech30]

Well it sure wakes you up real quick.. in my opinion I think it could be running to lean at low speeds or rpm.. with good tune tts richen up a little should help at lower rpm.. I'm sure there running lean as my twin cam was.. better to be a little rich then to lean!!

[grc]

Stumble and/or stall is not acceptable and can constitute a safety defect.  I'd suggest people experiencing this not just blow it off but rather insist H-D fix it.  This sort of stuff gets recalled in the automotive world, but Harley in the past has been immune for some reason.  Now that the EPA has finally started paying attention to Harley, perhaps the NHTSA will do so as well.  Don't forget guys, if you use a tuning device to tweak this issue yourself on a 2017, you will risk losing your powertrain warranty under the consent agreement between EPA and Harley.  Make them fix it.

JMHO - Jerry

[RonandJanet]

Wow - I agree with Jerry.  That is dangerous and HD should fix it. 

[fastfreddy]

So...they still do this... my 13 had the same issue your discribing and it only got better after I had it tuned, so the more things change the more they stay the same...

[CVOSGJoe]

Put a PV-2 tune to it and that stall issue goes away..

[RonandJanet]

I agree there are fixes but I think HD should fix it. The buyer should not have to invest more money to make the bike ride properly and safely.

[T-Hawk]

My 2011.5 did this the first couple of weeks I rode it.  I don't remember, but it had to do with the electronics learning where 'zero' was on the throttle input.

I do remember my mechanic telling me to completely remove my hand from the grip, and shut the bike down using the main ignition switch vs. the button toggle on the grip.  He said that after a little time, the computer has built a set of memories where the throttle input is most likely at 'zero', and the hesitation should go away on it's own.  Still, quite the eye opener when it happens.

Either way, I didn't have the issue for some time after doing that, and of course once I got the TTS Tune installed... it went away completely.

I still believe, like others have said... this is something HD should be taking care of, and not something we on the road should have to discover on our own.

All of my stalls were while entering into a parking lot... slowing down to look for a good space, only to nearly drop the bike while at less than a walking pace... with sudden loss of power.

[EmptyNapalm]

Did this start for you right off the bat?  I put about 2k miles on mine before putting her away for the winter, but I didn't have any issues.  Just wondering if you worked into the stalling, or if it came right off the floor doing it?

[FLTRI]

Typically this condition is due to an off-idle lean area.
Unfortunately, due to emission regs, even bone stock bikes can experience these niggling hiccups.
Change the way air flows thru the engine (i.e.: aftermarket pipe, a/c, cams, heads, etc) and the condition gets worse along with other issues.
IME, a trip to a competent tuner and a few $ will eliminate this condition And increase performance in all other areas as well.
No downside to recalibrating for mods and emissions related run quality issues. Just upsides with smiles for miles.
Bob

[Rooster]

I remember reading about this right off. A new owner experienced it thought it was from the lower Idle the new ones have. Good to hear it can be tuned out.

[grc]

I remember reading about this right off. A new owner experienced it thought it was from the lower Idle the new ones have. Good to hear it can be tuned out.

This sort of thing always could be tuned out, and Harley customers have been doing so for decades going back to the early days of basic emission controls on carbureted bikes.  The issue is the customer should never have to "tune out" a safety defect in the first place, and stumble/stall is a safety defect.  If people continue to spend money tampering with the tune on the current model bikes, they risk voiding the powertrain warranty.  It was bad enough when everyone had to pay to make the changes required, there is no way I'd let H-D not only make me pay to fix their defect but also lose my warranty in the process.  Why is everyone so afraid to insist H-D fix this?

Jerry

[RonandJanet]

Agree X2!

[Rooster]

Agree x3