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JCZ toy hauler....
« on: March 29, 2017, 04:45:46 PM »


A few of you have asked when I was going to post pictures of the new toy hauler.....here it is.   A 2017 Momentum 376TH, 41'4" long with 5 slide outs and a garage.  It has 6 pt. leveling system, outside kitchen and outside entertainement, washer/dryer, etc.
















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Re: JCZ toy hauler....
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It has two full size sofas that make in to a queen beds but this love seat is a recliner with heat and massage!

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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2017, 04:52:05 PM »



Outside, A two burner stove, a mini fridge and a quick connect propane line for the portable b-b-q......




And....an outside entertainment system.....

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Re: JCZ toy hauler....
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2017, 07:16:26 PM »

Congrats! VERY nice indeed!!! I believe you have now created a category ABOVE elite W.H.O.R.E. I hope to attain a such status in the future! Seriously, that is an awesome looking fifth wheel rig you got!
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2017, 08:33:18 PM »

Damn!  Well Done!  Let the travelin' begin!

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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2017, 08:51:54 PM »

Very nice...you've got no excuse to be caught at home.
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2017, 09:23:04 PM »

Gorgeous rig. Green with envy...
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Re: JCZ toy hauler....
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2017, 10:25:05 PM »

Enjoy all the toys!
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2017, 10:40:13 PM »

That has got to be the best fifth wheeler I have seen. Absolutely beautiful
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Re: JCZ toy hauler....
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2017, 11:00:05 PM »

Thanks a bunch for all the compliments guys.

The truth is, we've been working towards this goal for years.  When I retire later this year we will be living and traveling in the Momentum full time.  We're going to join the growing class of "full timers".  Yep, they even have several forums for full timers.  We're going to live the life, live the dream.....of the life that I used to dream about while on my long rides.

Plan to make it to more GTGs, also!  :2vrolijk_21:
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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2017, 11:47:36 PM »

That has got to be the best fifth wheeler I have seen. Absolutely beautiful
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Re: JCZ toy hauler....
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2017, 12:09:57 AM »

Very nice, JC!   :2vrolijk_21:   :2vrolijk_21:  Congratulations.   :huepfenjump3:
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2017, 06:31:48 AM »

Beautiful... I'm going to look at that model. Can you tell me how the garage and bedroom is set up?  Looks like full bedroom.  Love the living room that was one thing I did not like about other toy haulers.
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2017, 06:34:12 AM »


Congrats, absolutely beautiful!

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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2017, 08:18:57 AM »

Beautiful... I'm going to look at that model. Can you tell me how the garage and bedroom is set up?  Looks like full bedroom.  Love the living room that was one thing I did not like about other toy haulers.

Luc, look at all the Grand Design models.  They are top of the line for toy haulers.

The Momentum 376TH the bedroom is above the garage.  If you look at the picture of the window over the garage door (outside picture from the rear) it's the same window in the bedroom above the headboard.  This design keeps from loosing living space to the garage like most toy haulers.  The garage is actually below the bed, that's why the bed sets so high.  The drivers side of the bedroom is a slide out closet (all the mirrored doors) and the passenger side is all windows.

A large televator TV in the living room (it goes up and down in the cabinet behind the fire place), TV in the bedroom on an articulated wall mount and a TV outside in the entertainment center.

The forward living room with opposite slide outs is a huge plus for this model.....much like a small home rather than an RV.  This model, Momentum 376TH has only been out two years but is already one of their leading models.  Many full timers have this model due to the comfort level.
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Re: JCZ toy hauler....
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2017, 08:30:26 AM »

Stunning toy hauler.
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You should be smiling even more after retirement when you can fully enjoy this beauty.
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WELL DONE SIR.....well done!!!!
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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2017, 08:52:22 AM »

This 5er was bought used.....he had it for six months.  He ordered it with all the options like the washer/dryer, the 3rd A/C unit in the bedroom, 160W solar panel, whole house vacuum system, 7 yr. extended warranty, a new residential mattress, a new Kurig coffee maker with three cases of different flavors of coffee, etc.
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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2017, 10:44:35 AM »

That is a damn nice rig JCZ, congratulations. At over 17K pounds loaded, how well does it tow? I'm sure your truck is up to the task but what kind of fuel mileage do you expect?
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« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2017, 10:51:37 AM »

That is a damn nice rig JCZ, congratulations. At over 17K pounds loaded, how well does it tow? I'm sure your truck is up to the task but what kind of fuel mileage do you expect?

I met the guy at my credit union in Pamona, Ca and the dash showed 14.7 mpg.  I towed it back to San Diego at 65-70 mph....some hills and it showed 14.5.  So it looks to be getting as good a mileage as my F-250 FX-4 pulling my small 5th wheel.  I'm actually kind of surprised at that considering this is a dually.  Much better mileage than my old F-350 daully with the 6.0 and a lot more HP and TQ in these newer trucks.
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« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2017, 11:21:00 AM »

Thanks a bunch for all the compliments guys.

The truth is, we've been working towards this goal for years.  When I retire later this year we will be living and traveling in the Momentum full time.  We're going to join the growing class of "full timers".  Yep, they even have several forums for full timers.  We're going to live the life, live the dream.....of the life that I used to dream about while on my long rides.

Plan to make it to more GTGs, also!  :2vrolijk_21:


Sooo....that means you sold the real house and we'll see you at right coast events too. 

CONGRATULATIONS!  Enjoy yourselves. Life is too short not to.

Very best regards

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« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2017, 11:26:47 AM »

Sold the sticks and bricks and a couple of rentals a few years back.  A couple more rentals went back to the bank when the housing market dumped.  We've been down sizing and getting rid of "stuff" every since.  It's hard to get rid of stuff but when you do, it's very freeing feeling.  No anchors around our necks.....we'll be able to go and stop when ever we feel like it.  I keep telling Babe I'm throwing my watch away.  LOL
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« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2017, 11:33:23 AM »

Almost bought that model last month but every time the bed went up and down a lot of sawdust kept falling down to the floor and made me nervous... It looks like yours has the same problem in the pictures. I was a little nervous that it would fall down on my baby some day! Has it gone away yet on yours and did the dealer find anything or is there a problem? Please update in a few months and let us know how it's holding up.... ;)
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« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2017, 11:34:33 AM »

Almost bought that model last month but every time the bed went up and down a lot of sawdust kept falling down to the floor and made me nervous... It looks like yours has the same problem in the pictures. I was a little nervous that it would fall down on my baby some day! Has it gone away yet on yours and did the dealer find anything or is there a problem? Please update in a few months and let us know how it's holding up.... ;)
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« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2017, 11:56:49 AM »

It really is nice, JC.  I have good friends that retired back in '06 and sold everything to tour by RV.  They are still doing it and still loving it.
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« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2017, 12:16:13 PM »

Nice JC. Still waiting for dealers on the east coast to actually have this model in stock to look at.
Looking forward to hearing your thoughts with it.

I'm steering towards a conventional 5th wheel for our next rig, but my buddy has been wanting this model since we first heard about it. And once I finally see, might change mind as well. Full timing for 2-3 years is on our radar as well.
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« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2017, 12:19:03 PM »

I met the guy at my credit union in Pamona, Ca and the dash showed 14.7 mpg.  I towed it back to San Diego at 65-70 mph....some hills and it showed 14.5.  So it looks to be getting as good a mileage as my F-250 FX-4 pulling my small 5th wheel.  I'm actually kind of surprised at that considering this is a dually.  Much better mileage than my old F-350 daully with the 6.0 and a lot more HP and TQ in these newer trucks.

Ya gotta reset the lie-o-meter.

I never see better then 9.5 pulling 17-18K of toy hauler with my F-350 DRW. On average it is about 8.5-9 towing.
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« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2017, 12:21:59 PM »

Almost bought that model last month but every time the bed went up and down a lot of sawdust kept falling down to the floor and made me nervous... It looks like yours has the same problem in the pictures. I was a little nervous that it would fall down on my baby some day! Has it gone away yet on yours and did the dealer find anything or is there a problem? Please update in a few months and let us know how it's holding up.... ;)

The ability to move the bed up and down has only been out for a couple of months.  My bed does not move up and down.

The only sawdust in mine is from when I drilled the holes in the floor to install the B&W Biker Bar......   https://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=79634.msg1422880#msg1422880
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« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2017, 12:25:01 PM »

Ya gotta reset the lie-o-meter.

I never see better then 9.5 pulling 17-18K of toy hauler with my F-350 DRW. On average it is about 8.5-9 towing.

Is that by the computer on your dash?  What year of truck?  That sounds like about what I got with my 6.0.  My 12 F-250 and my 14 F-350 both get way better than that.  I'll check it by actual mileage vs. gallons used when I take a long trip.
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« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2017, 12:41:19 PM »

Is that by the computer on your dash?  What year of truck?  That sounds like about what I got with my 6.0.  My 12 F-250 and my 14 F-350 both get way better than that.  I'll check it by actual mileage vs. gallons used when I take a long trip.

My truck is a 2011 6.7.

My mileage has been consistent using either a calculator or the trip meters.
I used to get on average 10-12 towing but a transmission computer flash (that I specifically requested not be done) dropped my mileage almost 2 mpg on average, towing or not.

I've got 87,000 on the truck now of which 39,000 is pulling the toy hauler.
Just waiting for a chance to drive a 2017 450 to decide whether the next truck will be another 350 DRW or the 450.

I have 6 months and 11,000 miles before my bumper to bumper warranty runs out and I plan on having a truck before that expiration.
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« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2017, 12:47:38 PM »

I have a 2015 F250 SD and it gets about 7mpg when towing our Toy Hauler.
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« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2017, 01:21:32 PM »

The truth is, we've been working towards this goal for years.  When I retire later this year we will be living and traveling in the Momentum full time.  We're going to join the growing class of "full timers".  Yep, they even have several forums for full timers.  We're going to live the life, live the dream.....of the life that I used to dream about while on my long rides.

Plan to make it to more GTGs, also!  :2vrolijk_21:

Good for you, JC.  A boss of mine retired August 31, 2015 and that's what they have done.  They actually sold everything about a year prior, bought their fifth wheel and truck and lived "the life" before he retired just to make sure they would enjoy it....they did!  Here's a link to their blog if you are interested.  It's got quite a few "glad we done" and "won't do that again" all through it.  They are fully enjoying that life.  They did recently trade their fifth wheel and F-450 in on a diesel pusher so "phase II" has begun.
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Re: JCZ toy hauler....
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2017, 01:35:01 PM »

Duane, you've got me curious now.  I'll check it mileage vs. gallons used, the old fashioned way.  But I can't imagine that both trucks would be off by that much.

Ace....7 mpg.....I'd have that ruck in auto trader so fast.  I haven't talked to (or read on the forums) anybody in a few years that got that poor of mileage.  I couldn't afford to go anywhere at that rate.   Those 40' class A diesel pushers towing a towed get better mileage than that.  :nixweiss:

Haird.....going to take a look at that blog when I get home tonight.  Thanks for posting it.
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« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2017, 01:37:08 PM »

I don't think you will b throwing YOUR watch away haha. Looks like good times ahead.
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« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2017, 07:55:24 PM »

Duane, you've got me curious now.  I'll check it mileage vs. gallons used, the old fashioned way.  But I can't imagine that both trucks would be off by that much.

Ace....7 mpg.....I'd have that ruck in auto trader so fast.  I haven't talked to (or read on the forums) anybody in a few years that got that poor of mileage.  I couldn't afford to go anywhere at that rate.   Those 40' class A diesel pushers towing a towed get better mileage than that.  :nixweiss:

Haird.....going to take a look at that blog when I get home tonight.  Thanks for posting it.


My 32' class A gas will get 8.5-9 MPG towing my 2 bike box trailer at 60-65MPH. At 70-80MPH it drops to 7.5 MPG (rig fully loaded). Most folks I have spoken with that have diesel pushers (which will be what we get next to also full time) are only getting in the 6-9 MPG range
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« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2017, 09:21:56 PM »


My 32' class A gas will get 8.5-9 MPG towing my 2 bike box trailer at 60-65MPH. At 70-80MPH it drops to 7.5 MPG (rig fully loaded). Most folks I have spoken with that have diesel pushers (which will be what we get next to also full time) are only getting in the 6-9 MPG range

Not to get in to a debate about mileage in this thread but I shopped class A diesel vs. gas and once I learned that diesel gets better mileage (comparing the same vehicle (or at least length and weight) I then compated class A dp vs. the diesel truck and 5th wheel.  I quick google search will reflect that a diesel motor will get better mileage.

Yep, there are some of those 45' class A dps out there pulling a towed that are only getting 9 mpg (lower mileage if they're older) but if you were to get a gas motor to pull that same weight and size, the gas mileage would be much worse.  That's one of the many reason people go the expense to get in to a dp.  I think you'll be much happier with that dp than you are with your current little gas rig.
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« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2017, 09:42:02 PM »

I keep telling Babe I'm throwing my watch away.  LOL
I did that 7 years ago and haven't missed it one bit.
That is one sweet rig you got there JC. Will be looking forward to seeing you on our side of the country someday.


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« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2017, 09:47:20 AM »

Nice setup JCZ we are looking at the grand design 5th wheel but no garage, the wife likes the fact that she can get a dishwasher and washer & dryer.
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« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2017, 10:08:31 AM »

I am a few years behind you JC but that looks like a great retirement plan!
Congrats!  And I will be looking forward to some of the many stories that should be generated with new life style.

We had a 5ver toy hauler when my kids were young and we raced MX nearly every weekend on the east coast. Some of the best times.
Empty nesters starting next year so who knows maybe its time to get another one.

Love the getting rid of "the sticks and bricks"

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« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2017, 10:22:06 AM »

Way to go you two, live the life you love.
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« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2017, 11:32:26 AM »

JC, congratulations and well done. We wish the best to you and your spouse in your travels. Enjoy!


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« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2017, 03:36:27 PM »

I keep telling Babe I'm throwing my watch away.  LOL
I did that 7 years ago and haven't missed it one bit.
That is one sweet rig you got there JC. Will be looking forward to seeing you on our side of the country someday.


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I was so used to wearing a watch that right after I turned in my retirement instructions, I took the watch off just to get used to NOT wearing one.  That was almost 3-1/2 years ago and the only time I wear one now is when I travel or go out on the town with Patty.  And even then, it's mostly for looks, as I like the look of the Seiko dive watch but I don't miss the weight.  Heck, if I absolutely gotta know what time it is, I check my cell phone if I'm not in the car!
Heck...everyday is Saturday now for us, so who needs a watch!   :coolblue:   :drink:   :P
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« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2017, 06:39:16 PM »

I was so used to wearing a watch that right after I turned in my retirement instructions, I took the watch off just to get used to NOT wearing one.  That was almost 3-1/2 years ago and the only time I wear one now is when I travel or go out on the town with Patty.  And even then, it's mostly for looks, as I like the look of the Seiko dive watch but I don't miss the weight.  Heck, if I absolutely gotta know what time it is, I check my cell phone if I'm not in the car!
Heck...everyday is Saturday now for us, so who needs a watch!   :coolblue:   :drink:   :P

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« Reply #43 on: April 26, 2017, 04:04:22 PM »

JC, will you be bringing the unit to Eureka Springs?   Sure would like to get a look at it.
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« Reply #44 on: April 26, 2017, 05:06:09 PM »

JC, will you be bringing the unit to Eureka Springs?   Sure would like to get a look at it.

No, I'll not be making it to ES.  This project just listed for sale this week and I get a nice little "stay on bonus" if I'm here until the last day close of escrow.  Can't afford to pass that up but I'll be heading out immediately there after.  Still hope to make it to the GTG in Cody, Wy. and if I do, I'll have it there.

You can go see this model, Momentum 376TH at a Grand Design dealership near you.  It's the ultimate toy hauler, that's for sure.  Looking on the owner's forum, people are selling their other brands that are only a couple of years old to get in to this model.  And a lot of people that ride (some have other brands of motorcycles) have this model.
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« Reply #45 on: April 26, 2017, 09:32:10 PM »

Just saw this thread and all the pictures.  Gorgeous rig and enjoy phase # whichever is next.
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« Reply #46 on: April 27, 2017, 08:40:36 AM »

Beautiful rig!!!  I'm wondering if they make a similar model for hauling two bikes....  Most toy haulers don't have a good living space like this one....
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« Reply #47 on: April 27, 2017, 11:13:50 AM »

Good job JCZ. Looks like you are all set for the Full Timer life. I was wondering how you could afford retirement after buying that lux set up but liquidating your assets and living on the road answered that question.

Roll on and we'll see you out there on the road.

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« Reply #48 on: April 27, 2017, 11:44:35 AM »

Beautiful rig!!!  I'm wondering if they make a similar model for hauling two bikes....  Most toy haulers don't have a good living space like this one....
Dave

They do.....   https://www.granddesignrv.com/showroom/2018/toy-hauler/momentum 

It looks like 11 different floorplans that will haul two bikes.....  https://www.granddesignrv.com/showroom/2018/toy-hauler/momentum/floorplans
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« Reply #49 on: April 27, 2017, 06:57:13 PM »

Thanks for the link, but bummer, it looks like your model is the only one with the front TV/living room....  I guess I'll have to sell the wife's CVO huh....  hahaha, ya that would happen!  Love your model, just need a bigger garage.
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« Reply #50 on: June 01, 2017, 12:52:24 AM »

Stunning JC! I love that walk around bed design. I was looking at the Thor Outlaw class As before buying this house. Didn't much care for the "crawl in" bed as I get older. Yours solves it in such a smart way. Looks like Babe and ShyGuy are ready to roll.
What are you going to do with that beautiful colormatched trailer? Better not sell it. I want it as a package deal when I buy your bike. ;)
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« Reply #51 on: June 01, 2017, 06:35:26 AM »

WOW !!! That Bad Boy is SWEET !!! Good Luck with the new Rig !!!!!

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« Reply #52 on: July 01, 2017, 12:02:57 PM »

A couple of pics from our stay here at Pala Casino RV Park (many of you will remember Pala from the West Coast CVO GTG a few years back).....

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« Reply #55 on: July 01, 2017, 01:40:55 PM »

That last picture looks like you have a handy place to park the bike mostly under that front pullout?
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« Reply #56 on: July 01, 2017, 06:15:46 PM »

i think im going to blow my 401k on a rig like that...dont tell my wife cause its going to be a supersize bday gift for her when it happens lol
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« Reply #57 on: July 02, 2017, 01:56:54 AM »

Just saw this thread.  Very nice JCZ, the best setup I have seen!   :2vrolijk_21:  Great way to enjoy your retirement, sounds like is coming up soon.
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« Reply #58 on: July 02, 2017, 12:30:43 PM »

JC, love this!! My wife and I looked at this exact model a month ago. We are leaning toward doing exactly what you are doing. Any chance you can post some pics on how you installed your bike mount, thanks!!! Also, enjoy your retirement!
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« Reply #59 on: July 02, 2017, 09:21:21 PM »

JC, love this!! My wife and I looked at this exact model a month ago. We are leaning toward doing exactly what you are doing. Any chance you can post some pics on how you installed your bike mount, thanks!!! Also, enjoy your retirement!

https://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=79634.msg1422881#msg1422881

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https://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=79634.msg1422881#msg1422881

Apparently a lot of Harley owners using these in their Momentums on the Grand Design Momentum facebook page.

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« Reply #61 on: August 26, 2017, 04:25:57 AM »

For the safety factor, just had some new LED run/turn/brake lights added.  Wasn't much back there with the two stock oem lights way down low by the street surface.

This one is with just the tail lights during the twilight hours last night....
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« Reply #62 on: August 26, 2017, 04:28:41 AM »

And this one with the brakes on.......hopefully all those texters will see me before it's to late.......

I will be adding the high visability tape for when I'm stopped and no lights on (such as a flat tire out in the middle of podunk America) or just pulled off on the side of the road, etc.
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« Reply #63 on: August 26, 2017, 11:23:33 AM »

And this one with the brakes on.......hopefully all those texters will see me before it's to late.......

I will be adding the high visability tape for when I'm stopped and no lights on (such as a flat tire out in the middle of podunk America) or just pulled off on the side of the road, etc.

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« Reply #64 on: August 27, 2017, 10:39:17 PM »

Satellite dish, hopper and joeys installed yesterday.  Had a conectivity issue for the bedroom TV and the outside TV.  So today they upgraded the hopper to a hopper w/sling at no cost to me.  The sling allows us to watch our recorded shows from anywhere in the world that has internet!  Who would've thought that?

One touch button, the dish unfolds and raises up and then seeks out the three satellites....all automatically.  When we move, it folds back down flat on the roof top so it actually ends up lower than the three A/C units.

Had it mounted on the very front, directly behind the front cap for a couple of reasons.  First off, my toy hauler has the forward living room and we wanted to penetrate the roof inside and behind the stereo and TV cabinet.  The TV raises up out of the cabinet and so the cables are hidden and a very short cable run on the roof. 

The second reason is because with a mounted dish, trees in the older RV parks will often block satellite reception.  With the dish located at the very front, less likely to have interference from trees as RV parks do not have trees at the front of the RV space near the drive lane.  In this case, it's the advantage of the forward living room.
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« Reply #65 on: August 27, 2017, 10:46:28 PM »

Today the RV detailers showed up at 6:45 a.m. and they finished about 1:30 p.m.  They hand washed and hand waxed the entire coach.  It looks like a different rig!  :o


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« Reply #67 on: August 27, 2017, 11:32:51 PM »

Your last posts were the first I've seen of this model. Looks pretty sweet as most don't take full timers into consideration. On the fence about a toy hauler or DP to pull the 24' trailer I bought for this future purpose. Was thinking about a MCI tour bus conversion at the time but hard/impossible to add slide outs. Looking at another 6 1/2 years to go and a seasoned unit might be in the cards. Good job on your selection.
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« Reply #68 on: August 27, 2017, 11:50:15 PM »

Go to the first page of this thread to see the interior.

We were at the RV show looking at Tiffin diesel pushers.  Had actually looked at them for a couple of years and planned on pulling a 24' trailer with the bike and a Smart car.  We saw this floor plan with the living room up stairs, in the front, 3 A/Cs, outside kitchen, outside entertainment (TV and stereo), the living room has theater surround sound system and the two theater seats recline and have heat and massage.  Side by side refer/freezer, washer, dryer, solar panel on the roof, residential queen (vs. RV queen), built in generator, awnings full length with LED lighting and more interior room than the DP.  With the garage to keep the bike out of the rain and can load and unload by myself using the B&W Biker Bar.....no tie down straps needed so I can load or unload by myself.  And when we get where we're going and get set up then we also have the truck to drive in bad weather.  And you can order it with full body paint and dual pane windows.  :2vrolijk_21:

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« Reply #70 on: August 28, 2017, 12:46:22 AM »

Be nice get a part time camp host job in a nice place
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Be nice get a part time camp host job in a nice place

We're going to do a little of that Workamper stuff.  Work 20 hrs. a week (10 hrs. each)  in trade for your RV space and full hook ups.  I'll do maint. and she'll work in the office.  Most workamping jobs are a 4 to 6 month commitment.  Once in awhile I see one posted for just two or three months.  Looking forward to that, also.
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« Reply #72 on: September 03, 2017, 08:06:39 PM »

Added a couple of photos to the garage area of our toy hauler......one of Molly and another of my riding the Snake up on Mullholland Dr.

Babe walked across the street and as she approached the back, thought I'd put a flat screen in the back of the garage......as if three TVs aren't enough.  :nixweiss:
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« Reply #73 on: September 03, 2017, 08:46:09 PM »

Thats a sweet rig!
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« Reply #74 on: September 05, 2017, 09:57:19 AM »

Talk about go big or go home!!!! That's a sweet rig! Will certainly not be hard to live in. Congrats and enjoy!!!  :orange: :mango: :bananarock: :carrot: :jalapeno: :cucumber: :pepper:
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« Reply #75 on: September 05, 2017, 01:18:11 PM »

I can't wait to see JC in a Smart Car. :huepfenlol2:
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JC's kind of "Smart car"...... ;D :bananarock:
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Those that made it to the Cripple Creek GTG will recognize this view up on top of Skyline in Canon City, Colorado.....



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« Reply #78 on: September 19, 2017, 09:15:16 AM »

Colorado passes....Vail Pass here....
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« Reply #80 on: September 19, 2017, 09:17:14 AM »

Breckenridge, Colo.
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« Reply #81 on: September 19, 2017, 09:17:58 AM »

the kids.....
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« Reply #82 on: September 19, 2017, 09:21:55 AM »

and Hoosier Pass here....
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« Reply #83 on: September 19, 2017, 09:23:26 AM »

29,980 lbs. up on top of the passes....
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Up on top....
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« Reply #85 on: September 19, 2017, 09:28:21 AM »


From Colorado we moved north yesterday, through Wyoming....





and into South Dakota....






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« Reply #86 on: September 19, 2017, 01:00:14 PM »

I think you guys have used up the fuel allotment for the month!

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I think you guys have used up the fuel allotment for the month!

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For the year!  :o

Our domain is now officially South Dakota.  It took us less than an hour total to change the registration on the truck, the 5th wheel and my Harley and for Babe and I to both get SD driver's license.  I could not believe how quick and simple it was.  No driver's test, not even a written test and they handed us our new license in five minutes once she took our pictures.  Amazingly simple and amazingly fast...........compared to California, anyway. 

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For the year!  :o

Our domain is now officially South Dakota.  It took us less than an hour total to change the registration on the truck, the 5th wheel and my Harley and for Babe and I to both get SD driver's license.  I could not believe how quick and simple it was.  No driver's test, not even a written test and they handed us our new license in five minutes once she took our pictures.  Amazingly simple and amazingly fast...........compared to California, anyway.  :nixweiss:

Resident of SD now?
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Resident of SD now?
What did you give them for an address?

My South Dakota address.  :nixweiss:
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Can't find a camping spot during the rally but look at it today......






Our 5th wheel and truck to the far left in this photo....









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Places we visited yesterday......










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« Reply #93 on: September 21, 2017, 10:52:16 AM »

OK, those pics were taken with my iphone.  Here are the pics I took with my Nikon....




Just in case you wondered....this is Main St. in Sturgis a month after the rally....




and Deadwood.....




and Crazy Horse Monument.  It sure doesn't look like much progress in the past 12 years.....











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And many of you will recognize Needles Hwy.  It's a challenge to get a car through several of those tunnels.  It was a real challenge doing it in a dually!  Going back today on the bike......just cuz I can.  :P



These photos are taken through my front windshield as I folded the mirrors in and proceeded through.  The couple on the bike at the far end videoed me coming through in my Superduty dually.  They are on a CVO and from Vancouver, BC, Canada.  They didn't know anything about this forum so I did what I always do....gave them a business card for this forum.

This tunnel is called "Eye Of The Needle" and that's where the name "Needles Hwy." comes from.





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And for those of you that have been through Custer State Park and on the Wildlife Loop, you'll recognize these culprits.  They are the official Custer State Park food inspectors.  They stop each vehicle and shake you down for food.  They are not bashful.....they will put their head right in your vehicle.....but my truck was a little to high for them....








and another of the tunnels through the rocks....




and through this tunnel you can see Mt. Rushmore and the four president's heads on the mountain in the distance as you come out of the tunnel....




Arriving back home for the evening.  Through a couple of rib eye steaks on the grill.  Not sure why the TV pictures don't show up in photos....watching UFC on the outside TV....






Another great day of living our dream........   :bananarock:
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« Reply #96 on: September 21, 2017, 01:42:00 PM »

Outstanding pics and adventure. I think you are living MANY people's dream!
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« Reply #97 on: September 22, 2017, 12:49:38 AM »

So where is the "first stop"?
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Re: JCZ toy hauler....
« Reply #98 on: September 22, 2017, 01:10:11 AM »

So where is the "first stop"?

We've already stopped several times Alan.  See my FB page.  Posting a new ride report tomorrow on here........just for you.   :P

By the way, as I was leaving Sturgis this morning I noticed my "check engine" light and the "battery" light were both on so I drove straight to Black Hills Harley Davidson back in Rapid City (about 20 miles).  By the time I got to the dealership my volt meter was down to 8-9 volts so I had a pretty good idea it was the stator.

It was the stator and compensator.  They replaced both under the extended warranty.  I knew the compensator was getting ready to go out due to how it would kick back when I'd go to start it after it had been sitting for awhile.  Anyway, $50 deductable on a bill that would have been $1017.....so an inconvenience but I' happy I didn't get stuck on the side of the road waiting for a flat bed. 
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« Reply #99 on: September 22, 2017, 05:30:18 AM »

Very Kewl pictures and relaxation.... I am following your posts!  May go look for your FB page...  thanks for the pics and posts..

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« Reply #100 on: September 22, 2017, 09:33:28 AM »

My South Dakota address.  :nixweiss:

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« Reply #101 on: September 22, 2017, 10:26:04 AM »

Never have bought the ESP but in the future! Thanks for the update sir!

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Re: JCZ toy hauler....
« Reply #102 on: September 23, 2017, 12:56:45 AM »

We've already stopped several times Alan.  See my FB page.  Posting a new ride report tomorrow on here........just for you.   :P

By the way, as I was leaving Sturgis this morning I noticed my "check engine" light and the "battery" light were both on so I drove straight to Black Hills Harley Davidson back in Rapid City (about 20 miles).  By the time I got to the dealership my volt meter was down to 8-9 volts so I had a pretty good idea it was the stator.

It was the stator and compensator.  They replaced both under the extended warranty.  I knew the compensator was getting ready to go out due to how it would kick back when I'd go to start it after it had been sitting for awhile.  Anyway, $50 deductable on a bill that would have been $1017.....so an inconvenience but I' happy I didn't get stuck on the side of the road waiting for a flat bed.
I have been following you on FB, I meant where are you guys going to stop and do the "work exchange" program?
Great news items were covered under ESP, you are the master of getting your moneys worth out of that contract for sure!
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« Reply #103 on: September 23, 2017, 07:23:53 AM »

Alan, we're headed to Norman, Oklahoma next week to get the brake conversion from drum brakes to disc brakes at Performance Trailer Braking.  Pricey, but what's a life worth.....especially when we're talkin bout our lives.  :nixweiss:

  https://www.performancetrailerbraking.com/

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Re: JCZ toy hauler....
« Reply #104 on: September 24, 2017, 02:23:17 AM »

Alan, we're headed to Norman, Oklahoma next week to get the brake conversion from drum brakes to disc brakes at Performance Trailer Braking.  Pricey, but what's a life worth.....especially when we're talkin bout our lives.  :nixweiss:

  https://www.performancetrailerbraking.com/

Then we're headed over to Heber Springs, Ark. for the Workampers Rendevouz.  After that........who knows where.  No place like San Diego in the winter but hopefully someplace that's not to cold.  I hear they need some work campers down in Florida to help clean up.  :nervous:
Florida makes sense right now and your right, not such a bad place to spend a winter..
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« Reply #105 on: January 20, 2018, 07:07:46 AM »

Well we've been here in Tampa for the past week.  Came here primarily for the huge RV Show.  We went two days in a row and still didn't see everything......just to much.  But we saw enough that many started to look the same.  Of course the stand outs were the Prevost, the Newell, the Foretravel, etc.  I'm afraid if the bank roll were there it would be between one of the Foretravel and the Newell.  The Newell even had a Kurig coffee spout in the door of the refer.

Time to move on.  Today we'll be moving up to an RV resort in Umatilla, Florida.  We'll be there for the next couple of months, using that for our home base while we explore all of Florida.  A couple of members of this forum already making plans to visit us there so looking forward to that.  I'm sure we'll be seeing more of you in Daytona Bike Week.

Gotta go load up now.........
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« Reply #106 on: January 20, 2018, 08:31:45 AM »

Well we've been here in Tampa for the past week.  Came here primarily for the huge RV Show.  We went two days in a row and still didn't see everything......just to much.  But we saw enough that many started to look the same.  Of course the stand outs were the Prevost, the Newell, the Foretravel, etc.  I'm afraid if the bank roll were there it would be between one of the Foretravel and the Newell.  The Newell even had a Kurig coffee spout in the door of the refer.

Time to move on.  Today we'll be moving up to an RV resort in Umatilla, Florida.  We'll be there for the next couple of months, using that for our home base while we explore all of Florida.  A couple of members of this forum already making plans to visit us there so looking forward to that.  I'm sure we'll be seeing more of you in Daytona Bike Week.

Gotta go load up now.........

When you return to East Texas, take a tour of the Foretravel plant in Nacogdoches.
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« Reply #107 on: February 02, 2018, 08:53:59 PM »

When you return to East Texas, take a tour of the Foretravel plant in Nacogdoches.

I wish I would have known that.  Might not be back there for a long while.

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« Reply #108 on: February 03, 2018, 09:24:26 AM »

We moved from Tampa up to Umatilla (east of Daytona Beach) in a nice area that has lots of nice riding.  :2vrolijk_21:

Jock came down last week and took Babe and I to dinner at a place that we've learned is popular with the bikers....especially for breakfast, The Mason Jar.






Later in the week, Babe and I went over to Daytona Beach.....took the critters with us on this trip. 






We stopped by a few other places that some of you may recognize......
























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« Reply #109 on: February 03, 2018, 09:26:06 AM »



Last Sat. Unbalanced and johnsachs came and hooked up with me.  Harry led us on a 240 miles ride that took us on some back roads up past Lake George and the Two Bananas and the St. Johns River.  I have to apologize as I forgot my Nikon on this ride and so I wasn't able to get the customary pics on the fly.

Harry stopped beside a cow pasture to show us some cows that I'd never seen before, Ankole-Watusi (aka African Watusi) cows.  They have some very strange (by American standards) horns.....







As I arrived back at our current RV park, I noticed some birds that I'd never seen before......or at least had never been close to.  Kiro tells me they're sandhill cranes.  These and many other kinds of birds are very friendly.  I suspect it's because this RV Resort is a 55+ community and these birds get hand fed on a regular basis.






All in, it was a good day and a great ride.  Lookin forward to another one Harry and John!   This retired life is kind of tuff to keep up with but I've never been accused of being a quitter so I'll keep on doin what I'm doin...



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« Reply #110 on: February 03, 2018, 09:27:21 AM »


Let's Roll (Gabe) is here in Florida visiting his mother.  Coincidentally, she lives just a few miles from here.  Gabe showed up for the first Western CVO Owners GTG up in Reno back in 2004.  Gabe came by a few days ago and we visited for awhile.


Babe went over to the Clearwater area to visit with her daughter and grandaughter for the weekend so I rolled back over to Daytona Beach.....took my Nikon this time.






On the beach at Daytona Beach.....




Even motorhomes on the beach?




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« Reply #111 on: February 03, 2018, 09:28:07 AM »



And a few of the places on Main Street that will be very hard to get in to in a few weeks.....












And Shy Guy anxiously waiting for his mom to get home.....

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« Reply #112 on: February 03, 2018, 06:13:47 PM »

I like your retirement shirts. Enjoy your adventures JC. :2vrolijk_21:
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« Reply #113 on: March 16, 2018, 08:23:24 AM »

Just went through the toy hauler pictures JCZ! You Are The Man!! The other JC!
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« Reply #114 on: March 16, 2018, 10:27:13 AM »

Looking good you two, thanks for showing the way on how to retire.
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