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Amsoil on 110
« on: July 08, 2007, 01:10:20 PM »

 I just changed to Amsoil 20 50 on my 07 SERK. i don't have a temperature gauge but I don't think I need one . i rode in 90 + today and yesterday. The engine feels much cooler on my leg. The top end is quieter . Usually when the bike is cold and I try to back up in gear with the clutch in It won't budge now i can roll the bike back with minor friction. Not sure what that means but it is different. i will change oil on my wife's 05 lowrider and see if she can tell any difference. Thanks for all the help guys Billy
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Re: Amsoil on 110
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2007, 11:33:19 PM »

Glad to hear that the top end is quieter. I'm thinking about putting in the Baisley spring and switching to Mobil 1 V-twin. Did you change to Amsoil in the transmission and/or primary, too? Just wondering since you stated that you can now back up in gear with the clutch in ... I have noticed this condition, too.

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Re: Amsoil on 110
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2007, 06:42:59 AM »

What's a Baisley spring?
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Re: Amsoil on 110
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2007, 07:18:03 AM »

Amsoil products are good stuff and thanks for sharing......  :coolblue:
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Re: Amsoil on 110
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2007, 10:50:23 AM »

What's a Baisley spring?
sorry
-Beerman

Hi Beerman,

A Baisley spring (made by Latus Motors) is a replacement oil pressure relief valve spring. It's a stiffer and better made spring than OEM. It provides about 3-5 psi more oil pressure at idle and 6-9 psi more at road speeds, according to Dan at Baisley's. I installed one in my '06 Ultra and it made a significant difference. I've ordered one for my '07 SE Ultra and will install when I replace the exhaust with V&H dresser duals.

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Re: Amsoil on 110
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2007, 09:54:34 PM »

Glad to hear that the top end is quieter. I'm thinking about putting in the Baisley spring and switching to Mobil 1 V-twin. Did you change to Amsoil in the transmission and/or primary, too? Just wondering since you stated that you can now back up in gear with the clutch in ... I have noticed this condition, too.

Thanks, I changed al 3 holes to Amsoil 20 50  has anyone checked the temp diiference with the oil Temp guage to see the difference? Thanks Billy
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Re: Amsoil on 110
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2007, 11:24:54 AM »


A Baisley spring (made by Latus Motors) is a replacement oil pressure relief valve spring. It's a stiffer and better made spring than OEM. It provides about 3-5 psi more oil pressure at idle and 6-9 psi more at road speeds, according to Dan at Baisley's.

Mike

Mike,
Do you have any other info on the replacement spring by Baisley? Part number, etc.?  I am considering using them for some cylinder head work on my CUSE2. Have you dealt with them drectly in the past? Or just parts?

Thanks, in advance,
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Re: Amsoil on 110
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2007, 03:09:17 PM »

Mike (hdfatboy),

I haven't had them do any work for me; only ordered the spring 2 times for different bikes. The spring number you want is LMR-002. It is a product of Latus Motors Racing and Baisley is a retailer for the spring. Call 503-289-1251 and talk with Dan. It will cost you around $13 plus around $2 for shipping.

Check out these threads on another forum, or do a search for "Baisley AND spring"
http://www.v-twinforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56650&highlight=baisley+install
http://www.v-twinforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51998

You will need to remove the cam cover (need a new gasket from HD) and the right side exhaust, too.

Hope this helps,
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Re: Amsoil on 110
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2007, 02:21:22 PM »

Converted all to amsoil at 364 miles, runs average 10 degrees cooler and here in Florida we need it, added a cooler and droped another 4 degrees
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Re: Amsoil on 110
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2007, 10:34:31 PM »

Mike (hdfatboy),

I haven't had them do any work for me; only ordered the spring 2 times for different bikes. The spring number you want is LMR-002. It is a product of Latus Motors Racing and Baisley is a retailer for the spring. Call 503-289-1251 and talk with Dan. It will cost you around $13 plus around $2 for shipping.

Check out these threads on another forum, or do a search for "Baisley AND spring"
http://www.v-twinforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56650&highlight=baisley+install
http://www.v-twinforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51998

You will need to remove the cam cover (need a new gasket from HD) and the right side exhaust, too.

Hope this helps,
Mike

Mike,
Great info, thanks for sharing with us.   :drink:
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Re: Amsoil on 110
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2007, 04:13:26 PM »

Mike,
Do you have any other info on the replacement spring by Baisley? Part number, etc.?  I am considering using them for some cylinder head work on my CUSE2. Have you dealt with them drectly in the past? Or just parts?

Thanks, in advance,
Mike


Thanks Mike. I'll look into it. Running a 2-1 Fat Cat, so. . . . a little more work required but sure seems worth it. Thanks again for the response!
Mike
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Re: Amsoil on 110
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2007, 04:13:34 PM »

Am I reading avoid the HD Syn oil?  I run mobile 1 in my cars/boats and I am a believer.  I have heard about Amsoil, but could never justify the price difference...anyone know of any testing that was done comparing the different synthetic oils?
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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2007, 04:20:42 PM »

Am I reading avoid the HD Syn oil?  I run mobile 1 in my cars/boats and I am a believer.  I have heard about Amsoil, but could never justify the price difference...anyone know of any testing that was done comparing the different synthetic oils?

Welcome aboard rk! If you like Mobil 1, use their Mobil 1 V-Twin 20-50. It's just as good as Amsoil. ;) Hoist! 8)
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Re: Amsoil on 110
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2007, 04:52:13 PM »

Welcome RK :2vrolijk_21:

Actually amsoil is a better oil as far as independent tests proove, as far as justification of cost, if you use amsoil as prescribed it is cheaper but most folks just cant get beyond that extended drain interval thing. I run it in my jet-skis, harleys, atv's, outboards, diesel trucks, gas trucks etc. i change the oil in my diesel trucks using amsoil only every 25,000 miles with a filter change every 5k. All said in most tests Mobil 1 is  a real close#2 and of course Mobil now has an extended drain oil but still not as extended as Amsoil.
If your gonna change the oil early or at the manufacturers interval heck go real cheap and just use petroleum base oils. we been doing it for 100 years, But the synthetic thing makes us owners feel better huh?

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Re: Amsoil on 110
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2007, 10:11:20 PM »

Understood about the petroleum based oil, but what I have seen on the testing is the viscosity breakdown at 300-600 miles.     I was worried that it would do really bad things to my engine after 300 miles.

Thanks for the welcome.
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Re: Amsoil on 110
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2007, 09:08:19 AM »

Want info on oil and ratings go to this site and download the oil bible, more info than you'll want to know about oil and how oils are tested with a chart at the end rating oils in different viscosities. I printer the chart out and have it in the garage. I use Redline because I can get it down the street, but Amsoil is one of the top rated oils.

http://themotoroilsite.com/forums/
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Re: Amsoil on 110
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2007, 09:12:59 AM »

Talon,

Great info for all :2vrolijk_21:
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« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2007, 10:52:05 AM »

Actually I goofed, I use Mobile1 in the motor, Redline in trans and primary.
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Re: Amsoil on 110
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2007, 08:53:19 PM »

I run Amsoil in the engine and Redline in the other two holes.

Definite change in top end noise (better) and shift quality is much better.
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Re: Amsoil on 110
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2007, 05:10:47 AM »

Can someone attach the PDF file...for some reason when I click on it I get a bunch of gobbly gook...I am using version 8.1 but should be backwards compatible. 

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« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2007, 07:46:29 AM »

Can someone attach the PDF file...for some reason when I click on it I get a bunch of gobbly gook...I am using version 8.1 but should be backwards compatible. 

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Do you wish this doc ?

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« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2007, 10:36:08 AM »

Thanx Jacques worked perfect.

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« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2007, 10:46:09 AM »

Here's some more oil info from nightrider.

http://www.nightrider.com:80/biketech/oiltest1.htm
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« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2007, 05:38:04 PM »

Do you wish this doc ?

Jacques

Holy moly Jacques - thats not a pdf file it's the full version of the Encyclopedia Brittannica, but about oil - along with a bunch of god fearing stuff as well !!

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« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2007, 10:02:40 PM »

Yea, doesn't bother me, but it's a weird place to be putting religious stuff, lots of good info and the chart is nice.
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« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2007, 10:20:59 PM »

I'm running Amsoil MCV in my engine and primary and Bel-Ray 85W140 in my transmission.  Temps on a hot day cruising are 225-230.  Everything is quiet, and it shifts awesome. 
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« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2007, 03:59:47 AM »

Holy moly Jacques - thats not a pdf file it's the full version of the Encyclopedia Brittannica, but about oil - along with a bunch of god fearing stuff as well !!

 :nervous: :nervous: :vrolijk27:

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Yes, Nige !

Only the Encyclopedia Brittannica because with the Universalis, I've the prayers for my engine  ;D  ;D
The first Psaume is for my head gaskets
The second Psaume is for my pistons
The third is for my cylinders
and the last for my starter.
All days I make prayers for ask the help of angels for my crankshaft.

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« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2007, 04:13:49 AM »


Yes, Nige !

Only the Encyclopedia Brittannica because with the Universalis, I've the prayers for my engine  ;D  ;D
The first Psaume is for my head gaskets
The second Psaume is for my pistons
The tird is for my cylinders
and the last for my starter.
All days I make prayers for ask the help of angels for my crankshaft.

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Lol Jacques - nice one !

I am always praying for a troublefree ride on my scoot as well.

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Yes, Nige !

Only the Encyclopedia Brittannica because with the Universalis, I've the prayers for my engine  ;D  ;D
The first Psaume is for my head gaskets
The second Psaume is for my pistons
The third is for my cylinders
and the last for my starter.
All days I make prayers for ask the help of angels for my crankshaft.

 :drink: :drink: :drink:



Hey Jaques, how are they doing with your bike? You have all the same issues I had with mine. It's back together now and getting a break-in map put in. Let us know how your repairs come out and if they did the right thing!

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« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2007, 08:50:29 AM »

My parts will arrive at the dealer during the second week of August ( during his holidays).
He will work on my bike the fourth week of August.

No break-in before the end of August or beginning of September !  :(
Just after the hot weather !

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Re: Amsoil on 110
« Reply #30 on: July 24, 2007, 11:10:04 AM »

Here are some other helpful oil info sites



http://www.oilsandlube.com/HDLetter.htm                                         http://www.harley-performance.com/wet-clutch.html
http://www.harley-performance.com/harley-davidson-oil.html

This test below is the newest that i know of done in 2006

http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g2156.pdf




Here's some more oil info from nightrider.

http://www.nightrider.com:80/biketech/oiltest1.htm
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Re: Amsoil on 110
« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2007, 06:08:48 PM »

B.C. Thanks for the info, I use Redline MTL in my primary, but was told I didn't really need to by a tuner. He said " think about it, your really not lubricating much, mainly the chain, the oil is manly used to carry away the heat from the clutch."  Thinking about it I think I agree, but am still using the readline. With a open belt the air cools the clutch and there is no chain to lubricate, so I think he's right!
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