Topic: REVOLUTION POWER (Read 3825 times)

tony1968 · « **on:** February 12, 2005, 01:31:46 AM »

How about a VROD motor (cammed for a glide) as a bolt in??? Same frame etc... Just different motor....

mfgreen · « **Reply #1 on:** February 12, 2005, 08:05:05 AM »

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How about a VROD motor (cammed for a glide) as a bolt in??? Same frame etc... Just different motor....

The MoCo is looking at all sorts of options. They are worried about the acceptance of that motor would produce an Edsel for them.

hd2003-se2005 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 12, 2005, 08:35:30 AM »

I see it as the natural progression and evolution of the dresser line. It will happen!
Time will only tell whether it is 06 or 07.
Or maybe SEEG with a vrod motor. I would be in. Water cooled 115 to 120 H/P.
Or even better the 1250 motor from the SE V-Rod.
Add in 6 speed, ABS and better handling and you have one tough combination.

mfgreen · « **Reply #3 on:** February 12, 2005, 08:38:23 AM »

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I see it as the natural progression and evolution of the dresser line. It will happen!
Time will only tell whether it is 06 or 07.
Or maybe SEEG with a vrod motor. I would be in. Water cooled 115 to 120 H/P.
Or even better the 1250 motor from the SE V-Rod.
Add in 6 speed, ABS and better handling and you have one tough combination.

Recall, if you will, H-D's Nova project where they developed watercooled v-twin, v-four, and v-swix technology. A 25 year project that they would love to make some money with.
Mike

hd2003-se2005 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 12, 2005, 09:53:02 AM »

Mike

I'm well aware of that project.
I'm not sure what your point is. I'm sure the NOVA was part of the influence in the design consideration for the v-rod. How much of an influence only the MOCO knows.
The v-rod is a viable motor that is a stepping stone to installation in other platforms.

Also everything the MOCO does ties back to R&D and their perception of what the customer will purchase. They learned a lot from the NOVA project.
Some good, some bad, but a learning experience that has helped them in many projects.

kng103 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 12, 2005, 10:26:22 AM »

i personally don't like the idea of a water cooled v-rod engine in the cruisers.
it takes away from the nostalgia of the old time bikes.
you might as well get a honda vtx for alot less money.
just my 2 cents.

DavidB · « **Reply #6 on:** February 12, 2005, 10:36:08 AM »

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i personally don't like the idea of a water cooled v-rod engine in the cruisers.
it takes away from the nostalgia of the old time bikes.
you might as well get a honda vtx for alot less money.
just my 2 cents.

A Honda will keep you warm to.

Hilts · « **Reply #7 on:** February 12, 2005, 01:58:22 PM »

I saw this V-Rod Bagger at the Seattle Motorcycle Show.

Hilts · « **Reply #8 on:** February 12, 2005, 02:04:48 PM »

Here is a picture of the same bike from the rear.

BLM777 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 12, 2005, 04:51:46 PM »

Neat looking scoot. You have any idea what they were asking for it?

mfgreen · « **Reply #10 on:** February 12, 2005, 07:40:22 PM »

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Mike

I'm well aware of that project.
I'm not sure what your point is. I'm sure the NOVA was part of the influence in the design consideration for the v-rod. How much of an influence only the MOCO knows.
The v-rod is a viable motor that is a stepping stone to installation in other platforms.

Also everything the MOCO does ties back to R&D and their perception of what the customer will purchase. They learned a lot from the NOVA project.
Some good, some bad, but a learning experience that has helped them in many projects.

The point is this, H-D is driven by what they feel America and the rest of the world will purchase. Through out the years the only product that they have been able to rely upon has been the air-cooled v-twin. Some of us on this site have a very strong attachment to those motors. There are others that feel that the MoCo should step-up in many areas of technology and not appear to be just a nostalgia company, but rather, a technology leader. The V-Rod bagger that is shown above is one attempt of many to move this platform into other uses. The street rod is a more conservative foray into the same realm of acceptance. I hope that H-D continues with the progress that they can make with th air-cooled technology and would like to see the liquid versions made available sooner. I like the additional power and EPA compliance that is available from the liquid technology. I like the idea of a hydroformed frame. Seems that a lighter more powerful, more agile bike could be develop[ed with this technology. Additionally, I like the lines of the V-Rod in all of the presentations that Ihave seen so far.
Mike

Twolanerider · « **Reply #11 on:** February 13, 2005, 03:12:21 AM »

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The point is this,

reo · « **Reply #12 on:** February 13, 2005, 10:30:58 AM »

I personally like the 1940

hd2003-se2005 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 13, 2005, 02:42:04 PM »

Reo

I'm with you! I like the old look also.
Could kick my own a$$ for getting rid of my old shovels.
That's why the 03 Classic and the 03 Lowrider will stay in the family.
First time I went to Daytona was 78 and I wish I had bought TWO t-shirts and saved at least one for each year.

But the thoughts of a v-rod dresser do intrigue me. Like MFG said, the additional power from watercooled is good. We all like more power.

Remember the older I get the faster I want to go!
Check out the new heads for the Lowrider.

hd2003-se2005 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 13, 2005, 02:43:44 PM »

and the other side

mfgreen · « **Reply #15 on:** February 13, 2005, 03:32:27 PM »

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I saw this V-Rod Bagger at the Seattle Motorcycle Show.

mfgreen · « **Reply #16 on:** February 13, 2005, 08:17:29 PM »

Another place to get the V-Rod bagger parts is http://www.cyclevisions.com
They have a Road Rod package that puts this whole bagger/touring thing together for the V-Rod.

hd2003-se2005 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 13, 2005, 10:07:31 PM »

Hey Mike

Please check that address.
Can't seem to pull it up.

Chip [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

dakota · « **Reply #18 on:** February 13, 2005, 10:28:49 PM »

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i personally don't like the idea of a water cooled v-rod engine in the cruisers.
it takes away from the nostalgia of the old time bikes.
you might as well get a honda vtx for alot less money.
just my 2 cents.

I have to agree, as anyone I know and myself do not want to look like we are riding a Honda otherwise you get a lot more bang for the buck going with Jap bike. I can call it that because I respect Jap bikes as I grew up on dirtbikes and then went through 6 different crotch rockets before owning a Harley. I have never owned a bike since that could take the abuse of a crotch rocket and beg for more the next day. Point is, it is about nostalgia and that is why the Jap cruisers have been trying to copy Harley for years. If you start hanging radiators off these bikes, in my opinion, it will kill the bike and it's meaning. Why can't Harley get the performance that the aftermarket air-cooled V-twin engines are getting without charging an arm and leg for it? Why are Big Dog bikes kicking ass on the Harleys(stock to stock)? I just don't want Harley to feel like they have to liquid cool to keep up. [smiley=confused5.gif]

mfgreen · « **Reply #19 on:** February 13, 2005, 10:41:30 PM »

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Hey Mike

Please check that address.
Can't seem to pull it up.

Chip [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

Chip,
I have had some problems with that link on the PC but the MAC brings it up.

hd2003-se2005 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 14, 2005, 04:17:19 PM »

Mike

Thanks for the site!
Your right ! That v-rod is wayyyyy over priced.

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