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Re: 575 cams and thunder max ??
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2006, 06:51:42 PM »

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Are you doing or do you already have the GP Designs Twin Cam Outer Bearing Support? Reason I ask is I know w/just the 575 Cams we are getting close to the limitations of the crank bearings. Was just wondering what your thoughts were on this. [smiley=nixweiss.gif] BTW - What are the ballpark/projected HP/TQ numbers that Zippers is saying will be produced by this upgrade?

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The bearing support kit is already installed Gary.  It's been over a month now.  Simple little install.  Was actually pleasantly surprised by the part too.  When ordering had really figured it was one of those things whose price was justified as much for what it did as what it was comprised of.  Get it in hand, however, and you find a very robust component system with some obviously very fine machine work done.

So far have heard a few different versions of what expectations should be.  In the Zippers thread JK had recently posted a dyno sheet showing numbers in the mid teens.  But have heard otherwise that very low 120s isn't beyond the realm.  Whatever it is will be good enough though.  As long as it feels strong and comes in early I'm going to be happy.
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Re: 575 cams and thunder max ??
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2006, 06:56:38 PM »

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.....So far have heard a few different versions of what expectations should be.
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Re: 575 cams and thunder max ??
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2006, 09:14:30 PM »

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Question... wondering who on this site has installed the 575 cams,thunder max package and either the rinehart/fat cat on their Cvo ?
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Re: 575 cams and thunder max ??
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2006, 09:18:38 PM »

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No shop around here wants to dyno tune the TMax- it is all PCIII territory out west.
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Re: 575 cams and thunder max ??
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2006, 09:24:04 PM »

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Just a suggestion - email a copy of your air/fuel graph to John at Zippers and ask them to help.
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Re: 575 cams and thunder max ??
« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2006, 10:13:36 PM »

quote per GRC,
"Just a suggestion - email a copy of your air/fuel graph to John at Zippers and ask them to help.
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Re: 575 cams and thunder max ??
« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2006, 10:15:32 PM »

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Jerry I can tell you if you understand it [highlight]it is very easy to tune a bike with a Thunder Max. I took a 30 minute crash course from Danny.[/highlight] It is simple and you can monitor all the motor functions while the bike is running.

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That may be true, but not all of us get the opportunity to have Danny show us the ropes.
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Re: 575 cams and thunder max ??
« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2006, 11:06:27 PM »

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Re: 575 cams and thunder max ??
« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2006, 11:53:00 PM »

So heres the question based onthe sample chart Jerry posted.

What changes would I theoretically make to the AF vs TPS Map that Jerry posted based on my dyno AF chart?
My dyno runs at are full throttle and when the RPMs are @ say 2500 and the AF is too lean. Where on the TMax map do I move the squares?
At the 30% or the 100%?  If I richen it up at the 88.7% throttle does that make it too rich at the redline?

I cant put a full load on the bike when its in my garage (no roller or dynamic brake) and I cant read the computer when I am on the road

I just dont quite get it. The directions are lacking for us amateurs.  I can tune a 1000 HP 3300/3400/3500 series Cat or a Detroit 149 but this is too confusing
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Re: 575 cams and thunder max ??
« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2006, 08:28:24 AM »

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That may be true, but not all of us get the opportunity to have Danny show us the ropes.
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Re: 575 cams and thunder max ??
« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2006, 08:29:46 AM »

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quote per GRC,
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Re: 575 cams and thunder max ??
« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2006, 08:32:47 AM »

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That may be true, but not all of us get the opportunity to have Danny show us the ropes.
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Re: 575 cams and thunder max ??
« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2006, 08:40:58 AM »

ICYBAY I sent you a PM

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Re: 575 cams and thunder max ??
« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2006, 03:21:36 PM »

Thanks Dawg,  JK has posted a response in the Zippers section for the current batch of questions.
http://flhrsei.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1157212593 :D
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Re: 575 cams and thunder max ??
« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2006, 08:02:56 PM »

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From what was promised and what we got from the 575's I think you should get what is promised. Now I just have to keep telling myself.... You do not need this. You do not need this......... :)

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