Its rebutle night
Way to bored...
I have outlined my compaints previously so I am not going to inject them here.
While it maybe true there arent many "known combinations for this motor" , but that is because, not that many will embrace the 110 over the 113 from a stock perspective and why should they except for cost conscious / warranty needy people. they can spend the 2500 and the labor and be done and have warranty. A Hoist kind of situation .... its better than their 96 and they get their 2 year warranty. I really doubt you would see someone go 88 to 110 makes no sense to do this.
So not that many people other than Screaming Chicken people are going to try and develop real power combinations, its a misplaced market at this point. You will most likely see a package or 2, but I actually think they will be very rigid in what will work. Much like the 575's no head work bolt in, but time will tell.
The true problem isn't with the bike not delivering the power. The bike delivers better than the harley's previously delivered by the MOCO and not in horsepower or torque sense in the fact that they delivered a cam that was epa compliant and in the avg riding range of their prospective customers. 2500 - 4500 range
Another perceived problem is that over the last 7 years they delivered a twin cam that was capable of not being lugged when you ran the motor at or below 2000 rpm. Today with the introduction of the 96 /110 motor people need to know that running it below 2500 rpm is in fact LUGGING THE MOTOR. Its a stroker motor and it seems that this information is really not being shared in an educational way to the general public.
Run the motor under 2500 and hear the transmissions / motors belly ache. Its the nature of the beast so get over it people. It comes down to the MOCO not doing its due diligence because their modern day riders learned to ride at 1800 -2300 rpm just cruising and now you must learn 2500 and up and people aren't accustomed to that. Its like a harley guy getting on a crotch rocket or a vrod they expect the power at the bottom end they dont realize that when they hit 6k rpm the bike snaps to life .. its a hoot watching a long time harley rider get on a vrod and say it doesnt get out of its own way. They arent used to hitting 5k on the tach never mind 9k.
Now all that being said put a cam in that is marriage with the 103 stroke / 9.3 compression and a bit more air flow and you will have a better than avg running bike with very little investment. Comparing the rideability not overall numbers capable, but the 07 runs much better light to light than the stock 103's with air cleaner / tuner / pipes drag on ... not rolling runs. That is because of the way the cam was designed. The issue now with the 110's is the 255 cam dies errr i mean starts its decline at 4200 rpm and falls fast by 5200 its low 90's, but the torque is coming in much better than the stock 103's.
Rolling the 103 wins because most people have almost 12 hp more than the stock 110 with a stock 103. Its a matter of shifting the curves around low end grunt vs mid range / top end comparision. I should probably have done a comparison on the same sheet of paper, but for now i can just look at 2 curves and see it pretty plainly.
Quit your bitch'in and tell us how much muhla your going to invest now that you are done worrying about warranty?? What combination are you going to try ....
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