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[D-N-D]

J&S Jack will do it !!! Nice to have one any how.

[Dan_Lockwood]

I park my '09 SERG on the left side of a double wide garage door.  When I remove the bike from the garage to go riding, I sit on it and walk it backwards making a 90 degree turn to the right side of the driveway.  In less than 10' out, I'm 90 degrees to the length of the driveway and another quick 90 degrees to the left and I'm headed straight out the drive all within about 15' from the garage door.

But without the layout of the driveway, garage and the street, we're all just guessing here.

I would like to comment on the turning diameter of our bikes in general.  I've just never paid attention while doing the foot walk turn on my bike while it's off, so I'll ask it here.

Can our bikes in general turn a tighter diameter circle while running and in a cop turn situation or will it do a smaller turn circle while motor off and sitting on the seat while walking the bike around a circle?

[FLHTCUSE7]

Circle will always be smaller if you lean the MC - the more you lean the tighter the circle.

I park my '09 SERG on the left side of a double wide garage door.  When I remove the bike from the garage to go riding, I sit on it and walk it backwards making a 90 degree turn to the right side of the driveway.  In less than 10' out, I'm 90 degrees to the length of the driveway and another quick 90 degrees to the left and I'm headed straight out the drive all within about 15' from the garage door.

But without the layout of the driveway, garage and the street, we're all just guessing here.

I would like to comment on the turning diameter of our bikes in general.  I've just never paid attention while doing the foot walk turn on my bike while it's off, so I'll ask it here.

Can our bikes in general turn a tighter diameter circle while running and in a cop turn situation or will it do a smaller turn circle while motor off and sitting on the seat while walking the bike around a circle?

[MrSurly]

Circle will always be smaller if you lean the MC - the more you lean the tighter the circle.

Yep, the answer is running, as you can't hold it leaned over that far, it has to be under power do it.

[screaminCVO]

I have a similar issue. I just use a motorcycle jack in the garage, spin it around and your good to go.

[MNTransplant]

I Walk beside mine to move it keeping 2 fingers on the front brake if needed, if necessary I lean it against my Hip to steady it on uneven ground.

[2k]

I got a PitBull......J&S/PitBull/J&S/PitBull you are comparing 24carat to 24carat. And they will do much more than turn your bike around.

[Eqcons]

Dave, I've never had reason to try lock to lock turns on a 09 or newer bike.  The pre09s were commonly cited to turn in about 18 feet and I could get close to that.  Had read in several places that the new frame's geometry extended that radius by at least a couple feet.  Also remember reading about some steering head change and some related service bulletin for police bikes back in 2010 that improved this.  Perhaps the cop bike change went fleet wide after that.  Would have to compare some parts history to know more.

I could U-turn my pre-09 Ultras in the road along from my house, Don, but I can't do it on the 09, so I think the newer frame needs more room.

Jim

[HDultraDad]

My driveway is steep and I do a hardright u-turn at the top.  I back the bike into the garage every time while seated.  The garage is 90 degrees from the drive.  My u-turn passes the garage opening on my left (I am passing the opening to while making the u-turn).  I have less than 20' to make the turn.

I believe all H-D touring bikes are designed to handle a U-turn within a standard two-lane road.  I've done it many times edge-to-edge.  I have a CVO Ultra.  It takes practice and MSF courses have u-turns and double u-turns as part of the class so it becomes second nature.  The issue is throttle and braking.

Here are some simple tips: 
--- DON"T use the front brake.  At slow speeds hitting the front brake will compress the fork and dump the bike (been there, done that and got to practice raising a bike that is laid over     ).
--- DO use the rear brake.  Use it in conjunction with the throttle/clutch. 
--- Work the friction zone.  It doesn't matter if the engine revs a bit; you just don't want to stall out.
--- Practice

[FLHTCUSE7]

And turn your head and eyes and look where you want to go

My driveway is steep and I do a hardright u-turn at the top.  I back the bike into the garage every time while seated.  The garage is 90 degrees from the drive.  My u-turn passes the garage opening on my left (I am passing the opening to while making the u-turn).  I have less than 20' to make the turn.

I believe all H-D touring bikes are designed to handle a U-turn within a standard two-lane road.  I've done it many times edge-to-edge.  I have a CVO Ultra.  It takes practice and MSF courses have u-turns and double u-turns as part of the class so it becomes second nature.  The issue is throttle and braking.

Here are some simple tips: 
--- DON"T use the front brake.  At slow speeds hitting the front brake will compress the fork and dump the bike (been there, done that and got to practice raising a bike that is laid over     ).
--- DO use the rear brake.  Use it in conjunction with the throttle/clutch. 
--- Work the friction zone.  It doesn't matter if the engine revs a bit; you just don't want to stall out.
--- Practice

[MrSurly]

Not that this is an easy option, but I spin mine around with one finger...
on the table lift.

It's a bit different from the usual table though.

[MrSurly]

Part Deux

[mnr60]

Is that a Bestway lift?

[FLSTFI Dave]

Dave, I've never had reason to try lock to lock turns on a 09 or newer bike.  The pre09s were commonly cited to turn in about 18 feet and I could get close to that.  Had read in several places that the new frame's geometry extended that radius by at least a couple feet.  Also remember reading about some steering head change and some related service bulletin for police bikes back in 2010 that improved this.  Perhaps the cop bike change went fleet wide after that.  Would have to compare some parts history to know more.

I really am not sure about this.  Scott our instructor for Ride Like a Pro stated all Harley touring bikes can turn in under 18 feet.  I did not have to go to the fork lock to get under 20 feet, nor drag the boards.  You may well be correct.  

Only reason I tried to go to the steering lock in both directions was Scott said it could be done, then demonstrated it.  So I wanted to see if I could do it on my 13 CVO road king.  I could but only for about 1.5 times around going left and one time going right.  I will get it to where I can do it five circles with out stopping on the fork lock.

We did have a guy in my class on an 11 street glide doing riding circles in 18 foot with a 11 street glide CVO.  After class he and I Kept making the circle smaller and smaller challenging each other.

It is amazing how much confidence you gain in parking lot and u turn situations once you learn to constantly do a u turn in under 20 feet feet on the floor boards.  I practice about every other week.  It fun, and it builds skills that can help you each time you ride.

[FLSTFI Dave]

I could U-turn my pre-09 Ultras in the road along from my house, Don, but I can't do it on the 09, so I think the newer frame needs more room.

Jim

Not sure if your road is standard width or not.  Standard two lane road is 24 wide, which is the BOX Riders Edge and MSF motorcycle safety classes make you do to pass.  My wife, and instructor demonstrates this on a 13 Street glide now.

I can do a under 20 foot U turn on my 12 CVO road Glide or my 13 CVO road king. 

I am not yet down to 18 foot, but I have seen it demonstrated on a 12 Ultra.

I will get to where I can do it in 18.