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Re: FLH Swingarm 101 and Rear Steer
« Reply #60 on: April 08, 2008, 04:42:53 PM »

Is the bike lowered Chuck?  Thats was the biggest difference I noted on the serk vs my 03 flhr...Didn't really feel any bad r/s on the 03 but the lowered serk was rather mushy on highway exits....But I put the ride-Str8 AND 440's on, who knows what helped what.  Shuldn't changed variables 2 at a time!   ???

Mike,

The bike is std height and I have no complaints about how it rides. Wobbled once before at 80+, but thats it. Since it was torn down and stabilizers were the talk of the town, I decided to experiment with the Sta-Bos.

I'll look deeper and harder if a more consistent problem presents itself but for right now, no stabilizer for me.

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Re: FLH Swingarm 101 and Rear Steer
« Reply #61 on: April 08, 2008, 04:47:27 PM »

On the bike being lower, Chuck had an opportunity to ride a lowered SMURF, he could tell you the difference.

As far as rear steer, it's most noticeable at freeway speeds in sweeping turns, not just riding around.

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Re: FLH Swingarm 101 and Rear Steer
« Reply #62 on: April 08, 2008, 04:50:13 PM »

As far as rear steer, it's most noticeable at freeway speeds in sweeping turns, not just riding around.

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I didn't notice that kind of problem, but then I only go 65 to 75 down the highway. She's pretty stable. :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: FLH Swingarm 101 and Rear Steer
« Reply #63 on: April 08, 2008, 04:50:52 PM »

Do you have a picture of the Sta bo?
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Re: FLH Swingarm 101 and Rear Steer
« Reply #64 on: April 08, 2008, 05:06:32 PM »

Do you have a picture of the Sta bo?

Sure,

The Sta-Bos are the white pieces stuck inside the rubber mounts.






Some from the mtg. web site. (Ignore the Sta-Bo I and Sta-Bo III. Only the Sta-Bo II apply to our bikes.)



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Re: FLH Swingarm 101 and Rear Steer
« Reply #65 on: April 08, 2008, 05:10:45 PM »

Sure,

The Sta-Bos are the white pieces stuck inside the rubber mounts.






Some from the mtg. web site. (Ignore the Sta-Bo I and Sta-Bo III. Only the Sta-Bo II apply to our bikes.)



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I can see where the vibration is coming in to the bike.
It's called metal vibration transmission. The Sta-Bo help to transmit the vibration to the frame.
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Re: FLH Swingarm 101 and Rear Steer
« Reply #66 on: April 08, 2008, 05:15:16 PM »

I can see where the vibration is coming in to the bike.
It's called metal vibration transmission. The Sta-Bo help to transmit the vibration to the frame.

Expected some, got more than I wanted. Punt.

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Re: FLH Swingarm 101 and Rear Steer
« Reply #67 on: April 08, 2008, 05:21:35 PM »

Thats what I was kinda gettin at..Std ht seemed pretty good without help.

Try the Smurf fast long in a corner.  Maybe you will find some.
I found it in highway exits...
It happened before the usual scrape...the scrape was not the nice smooth "grrrrrrr" it was hoppy too.
440's and swingarm device (I am not sure of which)
or(whatever you choose) made it better on this serk...

Probably riding slower is cheapest!
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Re: FLH Swingarm 101 and Rear Steer
« Reply #68 on: April 08, 2008, 07:57:09 PM »

Chief,

could the thicknes of the powder coat be a factor in you case?
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Re: FLH Swingarm 101 and Rear Steer
« Reply #69 on: April 08, 2008, 08:10:23 PM »

Chief, Where is your bearing...don't see it in the pics
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Re: FLH Swingarm 101 and Rear Steer
« Reply #70 on: April 08, 2008, 08:21:49 PM »

Chief,

could the thicknes of the powder coat be a factor in you case?

Don't think so Neal. The OEM parts are powder coated too. I think the problem is the huge amount of compression that goes on when the swingarm brackets are installed. The Sta-Bos are actually locked in very tightly when the brackets are installed. I'm thinking I'll plane off some material on the outer edge to reduce the pre-load. All I want them to do is to prevent the deflection that would lead to a steering phenomenon. If I could get the bushings to go in and just touch lightly, that should be enough to hold it neutral.

Nothing to lose now, so I can experiment at will.

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Re: FLH Swingarm 101 and Rear Steer
« Reply #71 on: April 08, 2008, 08:22:37 PM »

Chief, Where is your bearing...don't see it in the pics

I was replacing them and at the time of the pictures they hadn't arrived. I installed them, promise. :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: FLH Swingarm 101 and Rear Steer
« Reply #72 on: April 08, 2008, 08:39:31 PM »

Don't think so Neal. The OEM parts are powder coated too. I think the problem is the huge amount of compression that goes on when the swingarm brackets are installed. The Sta-Bos are actually locked in very tightly when the brackets are installed. I'm thinking I'll plane off some material on the outer edge to reduce the pre-load. All I want them to do is to prevent the deflection that would lead to a steering phenomenon. If I could get the bushings to go in and just touch lightly, that should be enough to hold it neutral.

Nothing to lose now, so I can experiment at will.

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Chuck, mine installed much closer to how you describe you wished yours would be.  They touch.  Just barely more than lightly.   But that's all.  And I still noticed some stiffening in the rear as a positive byproduct of their installation but without the vibration that others have encountered.
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Re: FLH Swingarm 101 and Rear Steer
« Reply #73 on: April 08, 2008, 08:55:44 PM »

Chuck, mine installed much closer to how you describe you wished yours would be.  They touch.  Just barely more than lightly.   But that's all.  And I still noticed some stiffening in the rear as a positive byproduct of their installation but without the vibration that others have encountered.

Interesting. Mine have pretty good depressions in the outer edges from contact pressure.

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Re: FLH Swingarm 101 and Rear Steer
« Reply #74 on: January 05, 2009, 11:32:58 PM »

Chuck, I've read this thread with interest and now I'm wondering since it's been over 6 months and a full riding season have you any new advice for someone thinking of adding a stabilizer system.

I'm hoping to do something this spring. I had been sure I was going to install the Sta-Bo system but after reading this thread I'm not so sure.

Thanks for the detailed posts in this thread,

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