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CVO Technical => Cleaning/Detailing => Topic started by: novazeus on October 16, 2007, 02:55:33 AM

Title: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: novazeus on October 16, 2007, 02:55:33 AM
I used this product on my console to remove two small water spots(?) and it scratched the finish. The product says it has no abrasives in it but it left fine scratches in the chrome.
Now I have to buy a new console. I'll never use anything that even resembles an abrasive product on my chrome ever again. If you were to look at my console you would think I was crazy because you can't see the scratches unless the light hits it right and then you can see the fine scratches in the chrome.

Unless somebody sprinkled sand in this product sitting on the shelf in Walmart, I would not use this product on chrome.
This is the Nevr-dull by Eagle.
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: 103_RK on October 16, 2007, 06:30:09 AM
I thought never dul was for polishing aluminum uncoated parts to remove oxidation and bring back shine?
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: miker on October 16, 2007, 07:55:26 AM
I use Wenol blue for chrome or similar grit-less petro based polish with a micro fiber towel. 
I will usually clean chrome with wd40 1st, wiping until the blue goes away, then polish.  It seems to last longer after the wd-40 prep.

Miker
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: novazeus on October 16, 2007, 04:50:57 PM
They claim it is safe for chrome. Some places on the web it says the product has no abrasives in it and in another place it will say it has mild abrasives.

Needless to say i would not have use it if I had known it had abrasives in it. I'm posting this to let anybody know that does a search that this product scratches chrome.
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: REGGAB on October 17, 2007, 01:23:49 PM
They claim it is safe for chrome. Some places on the web it says the product has no abrasives in it and in another place it will say it has mild abrasives.

Needless to say i would not have use it if I had known it had abrasives in it. I'm posting this to let anybody know that does a search that this product scratches chrome.

I too, found out the hard way that Nevr-dull scratches chrome.  Best to use the stuff on polished metal only, and keep it way from chrome.  I use it on the polished surfaces of the Sporty, and that scoot looks great when I'm done......except for the chrome piece I used it on.  Live and learn.
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: courter on October 17, 2007, 02:59:06 PM
Thanks for your report.  I have used it a lot on the polished metal parts and on chrome.   Is the chrome used on aluminum parts different from chrome used on steel parts?  (I keep telling myself as I'm typing this that only the unasked questions are the stupid ones  :P )

I know the "chrome" used on plastic is different -- more fragile.  We picked up a sporty for my wife this summer, and it had rust on the mufflers and heat shields.  It cleaned right up with SOS pads and water.  No scratches whatsoever, and that is with steel wool!
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: Serkcus on October 17, 2007, 11:44:26 PM
Wondering if the difference is "old chrome" versus "new chrome". eg: "old chrome " plated in US - " new chrome" plated in China - ?
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: nidan on October 26, 2007, 08:26:36 AM
Thanks for the tip.. I'll stick with windex
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: spydglide on October 26, 2007, 08:35:31 AM
didn't I read somewhere that Windex has ammonia in it and that was not good for certain bike surfaces (ie: windscreen, ???) ?  :-\ spyder
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: bpalmersheim on October 26, 2007, 10:38:46 AM
You'll find it cheaper to have your console re-chromed and with better chrome than the factory console.  I plan on sending a ton of chrome this winter off to be re-done since MoCo chrome is crap!
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: Hoist! on October 26, 2007, 10:42:36 AM
You'll find it cheaper to have your console re-chromed and with better chrome than the factory console.  I plan on sending a ton of chrome this winter off to be re-done since MoCo chrome is crap!

HeHe! Where have I heard that before? :nixweiss:

Hoist! 8)
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: REGGAB on November 01, 2007, 10:18:42 PM
didn't I read somewhere that Windex has ammonia in it and that was not good for certain bike surfaces (ie: windscreen, ???) ?  :-\ spyder

I've never read it until now, however wise, old, bikers have taught me to stay away from Windex with ammonia.  They do make an ammonia free Windex, which receives a verticle head nod from the wise, old, bikers.  Personally, I like the ammonia free Windex wipes.  They pack easy in a saddlebag, and make post ride bug removal very easy.
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: novazeus on November 01, 2007, 10:32:43 PM
Who do you recommend for chrome plating?
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: REGGAB on November 01, 2007, 10:45:38 PM
Who do you recommend for chrome plating?

I don't know of anyone.  Perhaps a Google search of "Chrome Platers" would help you find someone close to you.
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: Break-In on November 04, 2007, 10:30:12 AM
never dull is used to shine brass, used it all the time in the military to shine brass work.
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: spydglide on November 04, 2007, 12:35:14 PM
never dull is used to shine brass, used it all the time in the military to shine brass work.
BrassO in the old days.  :D  har!  spyder
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: Fired00d on November 04, 2007, 12:38:01 PM
BrassO in the old days.  :D  har!  spyder
Oh yea, I remember that. :2vrolijk_21: Cotton balls and Brasso sitting around on foot locker shining and talking chit.

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: REGGAB on November 04, 2007, 02:01:45 PM
Oh yea, I remember that. :2vrolijk_21: Cotton balls and Brasso sitting around on foot locker shining and talking chit.

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe
Fired00d
 :fireman:

Yup.........We used Brasso and Dura-Glit.  Had to get the lacquer off the brass to make it shine good tho'.  That took some serious elbow grease until we figured out it was much easier to boil it off in a pot of boiling water.  When I was in Warrant Officer Candidate School in 1996, we had to use this stuff call Maas, which is a creme like Simichrome.  We used it on anything that would shine.........the Black Hats would even make us shine the inside of the Kiwi lid until it was like a mirror.  We had several methods to do that:  bypass the lid switch on a washer, wrap a rag around the top of the agitator, slather it with Maas, put it on spin, hold the Kiwi lid on the agitator and let her rip.
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: reo on November 04, 2007, 02:03:17 PM
Who do you recommend for chrome plating?
I would recommend Browns

http://www.brownsplating.com/index.php (http://www.brownsplating.com/index.php)

Here's another link with a list of chrome platers all over the country, haven't tried any of these altho.

http://www.chromeclassics.com/services_plating_polishing.html (http://www.chromeclassics.com/services_plating_polishing.html)



Roy......
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: skreminegul07 on November 12, 2007, 09:57:13 AM
They claim it is safe for chrome. Some places on the web it says the product has no abrasives in it and in another place it will say it has mild abrasives.

Needless to say i would not have use it if I had known it had abrasives in it. I'm posting this to let anybody know that does a search that this product scratches chrome.

you might be able to buff the scratches out of the chrome, it's worth a try.
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: Grizzly on December 15, 2007, 08:30:15 PM
Sorry to hear about your chrome problems.

I use to use the same product until I noticed what it was doing... Very fine, but nontheless still scratches.

Now I use a creme product from AUTOSOL called "Metal Polish".  It claims to "clean, polish & protect" and I have to tell you that I am thrilled with the product!

Another tip is about the inner fairing on the EG's.  I have never used anything but warm water on the inner fairing (naturally I'm talking about the unpainted inner fairings).  The inner fairing on my wife's '07 EGUC looks great!  Her '97 EGUC looked as good as new when we traded it in on the '07.  Some of my buddies have used different products, one that comes to mind is Amoral, and they have virtually destroyed their inner fairings finish when they originally planned to make it shine... NOT a good idea at all to use anything but warm water on unpainted inner fairings.

Good luck!
Mike 
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: oldharleyguy on December 29, 2007, 10:08:12 PM
used this stuff to get crud off of my vance and hines pipes on my deuce.  no problems with scratches.   My two cents
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: ccr on January 11, 2008, 10:08:06 PM
Sorry to hear about your chrome problems.

I use to use the same product until I noticed what it was doing... Very fine, but nontheless still scratches.

Now I use a creme product from AUTOSOL called "Metal Polish".  It claims to "clean, polish & protect" and I have to tell you that I am thrilled with the product!

Another tip is about the inner fairing on the EG's.  I have never used anything but warm water on the inner fairing (naturally I'm talking about the unpainted inner fairings).  The inner fairing on my wife's '07 EGUC looks great!  Her '97 EGUC looked as good as new when we traded it in on the '07.  Some of my buddies have used different products, one that comes to mind is Amoral, and they have virtually destroyed their inner fairings finish when they originally planned to make it shine... NOT a good idea at all to use anything but warm water on unpainted inner fairings.

Good luck!
Mike 
Saw a good friend walking out of the Harley store a couple weeks ago and in his hand was this neverdull product.  I rememered this thread and I know my eyes opened real wide, and I asked if he knew that it can scratch.  I know we have some in the cleaning supply cabinet.  I need to move it on.  Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Nevr-dull, never again
Post by: miker on January 12, 2008, 02:57:53 PM
Wenol blue for polish after a wd40 cleanin.