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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #120 on: September 09, 2013, 08:32:41 PM »

The install went very well. No kickback on start-up and it ran very smooth. I'm so far glad I changed to the new style. The old one was rusty and had worn a indentation on the ramp. The new one should lubticate itself alot better.


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Well, THAT'S good news!  :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #121 on: September 10, 2013, 01:33:27 AM »

BDL - Belt Drives Limited - makes a compensator that I've used for about 1000 miles on my '12 SESG.  The original HD compensator was in bad shape after only 5000 miles.  Before I traded the SG for an Ultra, I removed the BDL comp and put it in the new bike.  It seems to work well; it's quieter than the stock unit and the magnet on the primary drain plug wasn't covered with metal shavings like it was with the POS HD compensator.  I paid $140 for it, but I think it retails for around $200.  

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http://www.beltdrives.com/chcomp.html

I couldn't find much chatter about it on the Internet, so I don't know about durability.  We'll see.  So far, so good.

A good friend of mine put a BDL with a manual adjuster on his Skunk a few months ago and he told me today that it's going south on him at around 16k (on the comp), he's pissed. He told me that it was noisier at installation than the SE comps that he has been replacing 2x / yr on his last three bikes. (he averages well over 30k / yr) The comp on my '09 is starting to show some symptoms at 16.5k as we are presently doing some sport touring on the west coast, I don't know if I'll have it replaced out here or wait till I get back to FLA. I would hate to have to make a trip interruption claim while in San Francisco watching the Americas Cup later this week.. Wonder if ESP will put in the '14 style SE comp???     



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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #122 on: September 10, 2013, 07:56:15 AM »

Brad, sent you a PM on the install.
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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #123 on: September 10, 2013, 10:43:23 AM »

Hi Rooster,

Haven't spoke to you in a long time sime my stuck Baisley exhaust valves!  :huepfenlol2:
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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #124 on: September 10, 2013, 11:19:52 AM »

Rooster, Ride is good and thinking of doing this compensator thing.  I will send you a PM.
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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #125 on: September 19, 2013, 08:14:56 AM »

With the new compensator you get two oilers.  One for one type of cover and one for another.  After my glue job on my primary cover,  I took the unused oil cup and glued it to a pc of aluminum.  After 24 hours drying time, I could not knock it off with a hammer. So much for the worry about glue.
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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #126 on: September 19, 2013, 09:43:04 AM »

Good idea on testing the glue.
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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #127 on: September 19, 2013, 12:55:30 PM »

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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #128 on: September 19, 2013, 01:04:55 PM »

With the new compensator you get two oilers.  One for one type of cover and one for another.  After my glue job on my primary cover,  I took the unused oil cup and glued it to a pc of aluminum.  After 24 hours drying time, I could not knock it off with a hammer. So much for the worry about glue.

Given the glue they're using I'm not concerned about it either.  However....  the test here doesn't simulate life inside a fluid bathed and heat soaked compensator.  I know of a couple of adhesives off the top of my head that would hold nigh on forever in the nonchallenging environment of my shop work bench but that would fail in relatively short order if they stayed oil soaked.
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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #129 on: September 19, 2013, 02:02:13 PM »

I may soak my sample glued on part in oil and heat it up with a torch and see what happens when hammered. Wonder if it will still hold tight?
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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #130 on: September 19, 2013, 02:07:41 PM »

I may soak my sample glued on part in oil and heat it up with a torch and see what happens when hammered. Wonder if it will still hold tight?



Definitely use the torch to see what happens.  But since you're after absolute verification you'll want to do the test on the part installed in the primary so you're sure your environmentals are accurate :2vrolijk_21: :huepfenlol2: .
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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #131 on: September 19, 2013, 02:42:15 PM »

Can't create same environment but I will be soaking the parts in oil for two weeks while I am out of town.  When I return I am going to do the torch thing to the aluminum piece that holds the glued on plastic unit.  If the plastic unit will not break loose after the heat treatment, I will consider it safe for me. Nothing will touch the plastic unit inside the primary but hot flying oil so if I can't pound it loose I am satisfied. We shall see.
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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #132 on: September 19, 2013, 03:21:06 PM »

Can't create same environment but I will be soaking the parts in oil for two weeks while I am out of town.  When I return I am going to do the torch thing to the aluminum piece that holds the glued on plastic unit.  If the plastic unit will not break loose after the heat treatment, I will consider it safe for me. Nothing will touch the plastic unit inside the primary but hot flying oil so if I can't pound it loose I am satisfied. We shall see.

Again, as mentioned previously, and speaking to the adhesive that's used; there's little doubt that if properly applied the product will do the job.  It's a very good product. 
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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #133 on: September 19, 2013, 03:54:47 PM »

Well, mine is installed already by yours truly. I have ridden about 300 miles and am happy with no noise and able to chug at low RPM all that I want without irritating rattling noise.  However, at age 74, I will do the heat and oil tests just to entertain myself.
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Re: 2014 SE Compensator 42200064
« Reply #134 on: September 20, 2013, 07:29:38 AM »

I did one more test overnight just for the fun of it.  I drilled a hole in the side of the plastic oiler cup which is glued onto a pc of 1/4" aluminum stock. I put asembly in my vice and using paino cable, strung approximately 50 lbs of weight from the hole in the plastic oiler glued to the aluminum stock. Not only did the glue hold up but not even the hole in the oiler tray gave way. Just thought I would pass this along.
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