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Amount of oil for Primary on an 09 - 96"Ultra
« on: July 25, 2009, 11:47:28 AM »

Helping a friend today who has never done his own oil change.

I heard that the 09  96" takes more oil in the primary.  Have heard 1.25 qts & also 1.4 quarts.

Who knows the correct amount for the 09   96".

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Re: Amount of oil for Primary on an 09 - 96"Ultra
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2009, 01:25:25 PM »

38 ounces drain and fill.

45 ounces if outer primary cover removed.
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Re: Amount of oil for Primary on an 09 - 96"Ultra
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2009, 01:28:38 PM »

Thanks Much!
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Re: Amount of oil for Primary on an 09 - 96"Ultra
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2009, 02:12:11 PM »

38 ounces drain and fill.

45 ounces if outer primary cover removed.


Yes Bob, I'm lazy.

How many ounces in a quart?

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Re: Amount of oil for Primary on an 09 - 96"Ultra
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2009, 04:19:54 PM »

32oz in a quart.    :)
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Re: Amount of oil for Primary on an 09 - 96"Ultra
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2009, 08:18:18 PM »

32oz in a quart.    :)

The only reason the MOCO raised the lubricant qty was to sell more primary oil.    :soapbox:
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Re: Amount of oil for Primary on an 09 - 96"Ultra
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2009, 10:03:31 AM »

The only reason the MOCO raised the lubricant qty was to sell more primary oil.    :soapbox:

I would normally agree with you, but I don't believe the folks at Harley think that far ahead these days.  ;)

The part I love is the difference between the drain & fill quantity, and the dry fill quantity.  Makes one wonder why they couldn't design it so all the crud drains out.  I've removed the primary on the old style and found less than one ounce clinging to little spots in there; now they have a seven ounce difference.  What's that in terms of percentage, 16% that doesn't drain? 

Need some JB Weld (industrial size) and just fill up some of those nooks and crannies until the capacity is back to the one quart (32 oz.) size.

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Re: Amount of oil for Primary on an 09 - 96"Ultra
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2009, 06:01:49 AM »

I would normally agree with you, but I don't believe the folks at Harley think that far ahead these days.  ;)

The part I love is the difference between the drain & fill quantity, and the dry fill quantity.  Makes one wonder why they couldn't design it so all the crud drains out.  I've removed the primary on the old style and found less than one ounce clinging to little spots in there; now they have a seven ounce difference.  What's that in terms of percentage, 16% that doesn't drain? 

Need some JB Weld (industrial size) and just fill up some of those nooks and crannies until the capacity is back to the one quart (32 oz.) size.

Jerry

Have noticed a tendency for the primary to retain a significant amount of fluid upon draining.  Almost not worth it to drain it before removing the outer, since you're gonna make a mess either way..........unless you're on the side stand, I'd wager.  Always seems to be a nice size puddle left in mine upon draining for service.  Most recent change (Saturday evening) was first since 3.37 upgrade.  No fuzz on the plug, so not terribly concerned, but would be ideal to get more of the old stuff out before pouring fresh stuff in.
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Re: Amount of oil for Primary on an 09 - 96"Ultra
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2009, 06:51:00 PM »

Read your owners manual when you got the bike??? It has a chart with all the fluids.
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Re: Amount of oil for Primary on an 09 - 96"Ultra
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2009, 11:26:18 AM »

Read your owners manual when you got the bike??? It has a chart with all the fluids.
Nah.  Only do that when all else fails, lol. :huepfenjump3:
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Re: Amount of oil for Primary on an 09 - 96"Ultra
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2009, 09:50:53 PM »

On the subject of primary chaincase oil, its was recomended on my 2006 Street Glide to use Syn3 but now on my 09 CVO the manual recommends Harley-Davidson Formula+ Transmission and Primary Chaincase Lubricant. I'm in the middle of the oil changes and all I have is Syn3 and would like to ride my bike to work in the morning but I sure can wait to get the proper lubricant if it matters. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Re: Amount of oil for Primary on an 09 - 96"Ultra
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2009, 09:53:09 PM »

Sorry I should have added for the transmission as well.
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Re: Amount of oil for Primary on an 09 - 96"Ultra
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2009, 09:58:59 PM »

On the subject of primary chaincase oil, its was recomended on my 2006 Street Glide to use Syn3 but now on my 09 CVO the manual recommends Harley-Davidson Formula+ Transmission and Primary Chaincase Lubricant. I'm in the middle of the oil changes and all I have is Syn3 and would like to ride my bike to work in the morning but I sure can wait to get the proper lubricant if it matters. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

I just switched over to Redline fluids for all 3 holes in my '10 SESG and the bike shifts better and the motor is quieter.

Just my $.02
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Re: Amount of oil for Primary on an 09 - 96"Ultra
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2009, 10:29:13 PM »

Thanks for the Redline suggestion, maybe next time. I have 7 litres of SYN3 in the garage. Maybe I'm not thinking tonight because after reading the manual more I couldn't find any mention of SYN3 at all but I think all 3 holes came with it from the factory. I'm going back to the garage to put the oil to her so I will be riding in the morning.
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Re: Amount of oil for Primary on an 09 - 96"Ultra
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2009, 12:18:11 PM »

Have noticed a tendency for the primary to retain a significant amount of fluid upon draining.  Almost not worth it to drain it before removing the outer, since you're gonna make a mess either way..........unless you're on the side stand, I'd wager.  Always seems to be a nice size puddle left in mine upon draining for service.  Most recent change (Saturday evening) was first since 3.37 upgrade.  No fuzz on the plug, so not terribly concerned, but would be ideal to get more of the old stuff out before pouring fresh stuff in.

I drained my primary on the side stand and it was also leaning quite a bit because of the slope of the driveway. 46 ounces came out, So I put it on the bike jack on a level surface and put 46 ounces back in. CAHDBIKER
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