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Anybody getting a whinning in 1st gear??
« on: August 14, 2009, 03:23:20 PM »

I have a new SESG with about 250 miles on it and it has a whinning noise in 1st gear. As soon as I take it out of 1st and go into neutral or any other gear the noise goes away. It also has a slight drag even with the clutch pulled all ther way in. Any ideas or is this normal on a brand new bike? None of my others ever did it, but this is my first hydraulic clutch and 6 speed. :confused5:
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Re: Anybody getting a whinning in 1st gear??
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2009, 03:33:07 PM »

I have a new SESG with about 250 miles on it and it has a whinning noise in 1st gear. As soon as I take it out of 1st and go into neutral or any other gear the noise goes away. It also has a slight drag even with the clutch pulled all ther way in. Any ideas or is this normal on a brand new bike? None of my others ever did it, but this is my first hydraulic clutch and 6 speed. :confused5:


Yeah, they all do that!!
At least you should not have the 5th gear whine.
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Re: Anybody getting a whinning in 1st gear??
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2009, 03:45:02 PM »

Is it gonna get better with more miles?
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Re: Anybody getting a whinning in 1st gear??
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2009, 03:51:36 PM »

It will with Amsoil or Redline in the tranny......

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Re: Anybody getting a whinning in 1st gear??
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2009, 03:53:33 PM »

Then I guess I will change it ASAP!
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Re: Anybody getting a whinning in 1st gear??
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2009, 03:57:05 PM »

whining only when slowing down in 1st, but thats normal
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Re: Anybody getting a whinning in 1st gear??
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2009, 03:59:09 PM »

Yep..that's it. But it seemed louder than I would think it should be.
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Re: Anybody getting a whinning in 1st gear??
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2009, 04:30:58 PM »

These will quiet it down some:


primary


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Re: Anybody getting a whinning in 1st gear??
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2009, 04:36:31 PM »

Since it is nothing abnormal, I guess I will wait a few hundred more miles and then switch over to Redline in all 3 holes when I do the first oil changes.

Thanks for everyone's help.
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Re: Anybody getting a whinning in 1st gear??
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2009, 09:15:33 PM »

I don't recall a whine when mine was new, but I do know that the clutch got a LOT better after a few hundred miles.  When new it had about five degrees of lever movement for engagement, on or off really.  Now it's pretty simlar to a cable unit with a decent range of engagement.
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Re: Anybody getting a whinning in 1st gear??
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2009, 09:25:09 PM »

mjb, the noise is the result of the type of gear set used for first gear versus the type used for second through sixth.  What you have for first is called a spur gear or straight cut gear, and those tend to be noisy if not machined and fitted perfectly.  Older Harley's had spur gears for all five, and many of those were noisy.  With some additional miles and a switch to a real gear lube instead of motor oil, you will probably notice a significant reduction in the noise level.  

As for the clutch drag, yes that is an all too common issue with the hydraulic clutches.  It shouldn't be that way, but you can say that about a lot of the things we all learn to live with on a Harley.  Have your dealer make certain there is no air in the hydraulics, and put some miles on it to wear off the high spots on the clutch plates.  You might also consider trying automatic transmission fluid in the primary, rather than motor oil or regular gear oil.  Auto trans fluid is specifically made for wet clutches, many of the other lubes aren't.

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Re: Anybody getting a whinning in 1st gear??
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2009, 10:18:00 PM »

I definitely understand the "learn to live with that on a Harley thing"!!! I'll give it a few hundred for the clutch to wear in and I am planning on switching to Redline for the trans and primary fluids and we will see what happens.
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Re: Anybody getting a whinning in 1st gear??
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2009, 10:19:01 PM »

I definitely understand the "learn to live with that on a Harley thing"!!! I'll give it a few hundred for the clutch to wear in and I am planning on switching to Redline for the trans and primary fluids and we will see what happens.

Hehe!!! Get louder pipes! Worked on my bike just fine!!! ;D :2vrolijk_21: ;)

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Re: Anybody getting a whinning in 1st gear??
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2009, 10:20:57 PM »

Already working on that!!!!  Can't stand these pipes.....I am used to straight pipes!!!!!! I know these won't run well with those, but I guess IO can used to it.

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Re: Anybody getting a whinning in 1st gear??
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2009, 10:24:39 PM »

Already working on that!!!!  Can't stand these pipes.....I am used to straight pipes!!!!!! I know these won't run well with those, but I guess IO can used to it.

Westbury---and you???

I'm in Flushing. We should GTG sometime. I'd love to check that new bike out! :2vrolijk_21:

My friend's shop is North Shore Motorcycle in New Hyde Park. I'm there all the time. You know the place? I'm also in Huntington a lot too. Another friend owns Vincent's Clam Bar in Carle Place, so I'm there a lot too. Easy to hook up! ;)

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