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CVO FuelPak??? Or??
« on: January 12, 2009, 06:30:18 PM »
Hi
We just purchased a 09 CVO (110) Softail Springer (Cobalt Blue). Just added V&H Big Radius exhaust,. Have not driven it due to SNOW.

?? is Anyone running the FuelPak on their bike?? Looking for feedback....

Confused as what to get, we will not be doing any further engine mods....

As you may know the 09's come w/ the Heavy Breather AC.....


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Re: CVO FuelPak??? Or??
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2009, 07:28:21 AM »
Fro what I have seen of the fuel pak I would look somewhere else for a tuner.  Doc
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Re: CVO FuelPak??? Or??
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2009, 07:43:09 AM »
Any suggestions????

Like I said we are going to stick to just the pipe swap on this bike for once ;)

Thats why someone mentioned the FuelPak was sufficient??????
I know they had a bad Rap a couple yrs back, but supposedly have improved/corrected ???
THANX
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Re: CVO FuelPak??? Or??
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2009, 08:13:01 AM »
I am not 100% sure but I heard that the fuel pak is only good for over 4000 RPMs and does nothing for the closed loop as far as fuel goes but I could be all wrong, only going by what I have seen and read.  Doc
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Re: CVO FuelPak??? Or??
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2009, 03:01:30 PM »
Quote from: lobe50 on January 12, 2009, 06:30:18 PM
Hi
We just purchased a 09 CVO (110) Softail Springer (Cobalt Blue). Just added V&H Big Radius exhaust,. Have not driven it due to SNOW.

?? is Anyone running the FuelPak on their bike?? Looking for feedback....

Confused as what to get, we will not be doing any further engine mods....

As you may know the 09's come w/ the Heavy Breather AC.....


Thanx


Good afternoon lobe50

  :welcome_005: on the CVO website  :2vrolijk_21:

It would be nice for the other members if you present you in the thread "New Member Introduction"
with a pic of your bike  ;)

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Re: CVO FuelPak??? Or??
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2009, 03:36:32 PM »
I used the fuel pak on a '96 inch engine on a street glide and it did fine for what i was trying to accomplish, which was change pipes, let it breathe, up the mileage and COOL IT DOWN!!!!  It was on an '08 so it ran really hot stock.  I put on a big sucker, VH true dual head pipes, rush mufflers, and the fuel pak and it did fine.  I had no problems at all with the fuel pak.  I have no experience with it on the 110's. 
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Re: CVO FuelPak??? Or??
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2009, 05:37:43 PM »
This is what I was told by the service mgr at my local HD shop. They did my work when I put on new pipes and a big breather. The Fuel tuner is not the answer. The Screaming Eagle Race Tuner adjust the Fuel and the timing through your ECM. A Power Command can do almost the same thing. However if you ever do any other modifications you will need to get the Race Tuner then. This installed and Dino tested will help you prevent headaches later.
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Re: CVO FuelPak??? Or??
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2009, 07:37:30 PM »
Real quick, the Fuel Pak is for adding fuel only, it only gives you carb type adjustsments.  PC or SERT not only lets you add fuel but also take it away where needed.  So if you are going to invest the money way go halfway?  Just my 2 cents
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Re: CVO FuelPak??? Or??
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2009, 09:02:22 PM »
Quote from: Godeater on January 13, 2009, 07:37:30 PM
Real quick, the Fuel Pak is for adding fuel only, it only gives you carb type adjustsments.  PC or SERT not only lets you add fuel but also take it away where needed.  So if you are going to invest the money way go halfway?  Just my 2 cents

But on carb bikes, you also were able to manually adjust the timing, and with some ignitions, program your own curve. With FI, you need access to the ECM for that, besides AFR adjustment. Those fuel only adjustment devices on a FI bike are mostly useless if you're looking for a correct tune IMO. ;)

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Re: CVO FuelPak??? Or??
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2009, 07:18:32 AM »
Ya that too, I was in hurry to get to my steak last night and spaced off complete answer, your the man Hoist. ;D
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Re: CVO FuelPak??? Or??
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2009, 09:11:45 AM »

Look at it this way, for the small difference in cost between the Fuel Pak and a real tuning device like a PC, it makes no sense to invest in the Fuel Pak.  As one of those folks who said "I don't intend any mods, so all I need is a cheap DFO", I can relate to you that while it worked "OK", the PCIII I installed a year later worked much better and gives me the latitude for future tuning without further investment in hardware.  Save the price of the Fuel Pak and just get a real tuning device.

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Re: CVO FuelPak??? Or??
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2009, 09:29:08 AM »
I would really like to know if the fuel-pak does anything in the closed loop mode?  Thanks Doc
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Re: CVO FuelPak??? Or??
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2009, 10:59:11 AM »
You may call Vance and Hines tech support.  I understand they're very helpful.
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Re: CVO FuelPak??? Or??
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2009, 11:12:45 PM »
Copied from V&H web site:
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EMISSIONS NOTICE
The California Air Resources Board requires certain emissions-related aftermarket parts to be evaluated and to receive an A.R.B. Executive Order to be legal for sale on motorcycles used on public highways.

Fuelpak EX has been granted an A.R.B. Executive Order (No. D-632-1) permitting its use on the following Harley-Davidson models;

part no. applications
61001G 2007-08 Softail with smaller than 200mm rear tire
61003G 2007 Touring
61005G 2007-08 Dyna, 2007-08 VRSC
61007G 2007-08 Sportster, 2007-08 Softail with 200mm rear tire
61009G 2008 Touring
61011G 2008 Softail Rocker

Fuelpak EX settings are limited to 2007-08 Harley-Davidson models used in conjunction with exhaust systems and engine parts that qualify as replacement parts or have received an A.R.B. Executive Order only. Please refer to Fuelpak EX setting charts available on the DOWNLOADS page as a guide to determine what combinations of motorcycle and aftermarket parts are permissible for use with Fuelpak EX.

Fuelapk EX works in conjunction with your motorcycle’s factory oxygen sensors and provides improved fuel delivery at higher RPM and throttle openings.
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Re: CVO FuelPak??? Or??
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2009, 07:49:13 AM »
Well it looks like that article answered my question, Jerry. It do not do anything under 4000 rpms in closed loop.  Thanks Doc
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