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[murphy]

All in car units have the capacity to operate stationary or on the move, I'd be really surprised if there was legislation anywhere that said it had to be done while standing still... imagine how dangerous it would be for other motorists trying to catch the guy who just passed at 100 mph from the parked position!

[Dan_Lockwood]

All in car units have the capacity to operate stationary or on the move, I'd be really surprised if there was legislation anywhere that said it had to be done while standing still... imagine how dangerous it would be for other motorists trying to catch the guy who just passed at 100 mph from the parked position!

It wasn't that PA cops couldn't clock people while on the move, it was that it was some type of entrapment issue and there was a state statute requiring cops to be stationary while "officially" clocking someone.

I believe the radar has a built in scan of the ground speed and then automatically deducts that from the on coming or going with car they are clocking.  So PA cops had the ability, but not by law.  At least that was in the late 80's or early 90's.

[murphy]

I believe the radar has a built in scan of the ground speed and then automatically deducts that from the on coming or going with car they are clocking.  So PA cops had the ability, but not by law.  At least that was in the late 80's or early 90's.

That's how all the mobile units work Dan, ground speed is the speed that the cruiser is traveling at and target speed is the speed of the offender.

When an officer gives evidence and advises the trier of fact the speed that they were travelling when they clocked the 'bad guy" they use the speed from the unit (ground speed) not from their own speedo.

FYI... pretty much all mobile units now also have "heads" in the front and the rear of the patrol cars and or bikes, so you can be tracked in either direction if the operator knows how to operate the machine properly.

[GtreetSlide]

When I was a kid there was a strongman named Hercules Macelroy who let cars drive across his body. He claimed that eating two dozen eggs for breakfast made him storng. I don't think he could "pick up a motorcycle" though, and I'm not sure about this Radar guy..

[OBB]

When I was a kid there was a strongman named Hercules Macelroy who let cars drive across his body. He claimed that eating two dozen eggs for breakfast made him storng. I don't think he could "pick up a motorcycle" though, and I'm not sure about this Radar guy..

Side note, I've been told by LEOs that the laser HAS to be stationary and the unit must be "braced" so to speak against something. That's why you'll see them holding the unit across their arm or laying on top of the door.

[Ghost__Rider]

I can clear this up........Yes! They definitely pick up a motorcycle.

[red ben59]

I can clear this up........Yes! They definitely pick up a motorcycle.

YEP, That pic is pretty clear  

[murphy]

Side note, I've been told by LEOs that the laser HAS to be stationary and the unit must be "braced" so to speak against something. That's why you'll see them holding the unit across their arm or laying on top of the door.

Nope... the only reason why folks will "brace it" like you described is that regardless of weight, any portable - hand held unit will become to feel  heavy over time... even those that are deemed "ultra light" can feel like a couple hundred pounds after holding them all day!

[MooseAmos]

thats odd,,,,,,, crotch rockets usually just outrun a ticket   

They foolishly try & sometimes succeed in losing the trooper--hard to outrun the radio though...   

[Dead_Reckoning]

  According to the ME State Trooper, I was doing 135 with my significant on the back, so I guess so.

DR

[chaos901]

The last several years I have been pulled over by unmarked cars that were coming toward me when they clocked me, they were in Minnesota, Arkansas and Illinois.  So those can do it for sure. 

Only the guy in MN gave me a ticket, he must have been having a bad day. 

[MooseAmos]

According to the ME State Trooper, I was doing 135 with my significant on the back, so I guess so.

DR

Ouch...   

[dayne66]

As a side note......fight all speeding tix....if not thrown out, it will usually be reduced.

A technique that I have used in the past is to keep a record of  one or two out of province plates likely to be going the same direction as I am for a while......submit that that is who may have been speeding in my vicinity, they are called.........reasonable doubt. Has worked a couple times for me.

[murphy]

I'm gonna just throw this out there... Obviously I can't speak for every jurisdiction, but in everyone that I know of a conviction (or dismissal) can be appealed, right to the highest court in the land, regardless of the interpreted seriousness of the offence.

Many radar cars have in-car camera systems that generally are operated during vehicle stops, in most cases once the camera is activated it will have saved footage 30 seconds before the activation, which should capture the offense and and in theroy all other vehicles in the area as well.

Lets just say that the officer takes a vested interest in the conviction or dismissal, there is a big difference in the courts eyes between reasonable doubt and what could be considered a far more sereious offense of middleasing them.

[porthole]

Not on the bike, but an "accuracy" point.

Couple years ago I was heading down the NJ Turnpike to Philly airport, morning traffic. Not late, but wanted to get there plenty early.  Seen a black BMW, black Mercedes ,both with New York plates, both hauling down the fast lane. Figured great, Ill let them run rabbet in follow along.

Did that for only a bit before I thought this is crazy, there going to jail if they get caught. About the time I started to slow I noticed a row of 4 cars parked perpendicular off the roadway.

H'mm slowed down just in time. Not so - I got pulled over, figured oh well, 75 in a 65. The young trooper (figured no slack there) said the obligatory DO you know why I pulled you over? Knowing the recorder was on I said "I'm not sure".

"I have you doing 91 on laser". I was completely taken by surprise and of course doubted his claim. I was driving my brick of a vehicle, GMC 2500HD. "91  - no way do I think I was doing 91". Anyway he asks how my license is - I have no tickets, no accidents. Before he heads back to his car I ask "does it help my son is a LEO and I am career fire?"

He let me go with a verbal with the warning about my speed. No problem. I did the next 50 miles or so at 62 MPH and was paced twice along the roadway. No doubt my truck was radioed to patrols.

The point of this is I absolutely did not believe he caught me, had to be the two rabbets.

When I got to Mobile, AL that night I downloaded my GPS track.

Trooper was spot on, I found my track and I was doing 91 where he said he lasered me. And that was during the morning rush hour, with 4l anes of traffic.