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Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« on: October 18, 2013, 05:21:58 PM »

I was away for work for 2 months and came back to find my bike would not recognize the key fobs. I replaced the batteries to make sure that wasn't it.

If you had this happen, did you figure out what caused it?
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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2013, 05:25:13 PM »

Is the battery on your bike charged?


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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2013, 05:27:33 PM »

Yes, it sat on a battery tender while I was gone.
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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2013, 07:11:40 PM »

My bike just had the same problem for two days. I did nothing different and just like magic it's all better.
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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2013, 09:17:06 PM »

I called the dealership for their default code and that didn't work either.

I've been trying for 3 days and that siren is soooo annoying.

Can a dealership fix it without the correct code or is there someone on here that can help?
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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2013, 09:36:11 PM »

Was their default 1 2 3 4 5? If not try that as it was the default for most. If not I ain't no help????????
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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2013, 09:45:51 PM »

Isn't the default code listed in the owners manual?
 I thought they used 1 1 1 1 1 as the default nowadays, once upon a time it was 31313 (it was on my '06 ultra classic anyway)

If the trouble is the security system is not seeing the FOB's then the dealer should be able to re-synchronize them. I had mine stop seeing the FOB's - due to low bike battery voltage - if the voltage goes below 10.5V or 11V the security system will act screwy.
« Last Edit: October 19, 2013, 09:48:51 PM by phato1 »
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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2013, 04:35:47 AM »

I called the dealership for their default code and that didn't work either.

I've been trying for 3 days and that siren is soooo annoying.

Can a dealership fix it without the correct code or is there someone on here that can help?

the dealership can 'remarry' the fobs to the bike.  but, this shouldn't happen in the first place, so the initial cause needs to be determined.  my dealership uses the last five of the vin for default.  i would unplug the siren, flashing lights is easier to deal with than all that noise.

are the batteries right side up in the fobs?

try using a 'real' battery charger on the battery to make sure that it's topped off.

a great example of why its so important to change your pin code immediately.  i changed mine before i even left the dealership, takes all of 1 minute to do.
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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2013, 07:31:18 AM »

the dealership can 'remarry' the fobs to the bike.  but, this shouldn't happen in the first place, so the initial cause needs to be determined.  my dealership uses the last five of the vin for default.  i would unplug the siren, flashing lights is easier to deal with than all that noise.

are the batteries right side up in the fobs?

try using a 'real' battery charger on the battery to make sure that it's topped off.

a great example of why its so important to change your pin code immediately.  i changed mine before i even left the dealership, takes all of 1 minute to do.
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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2013, 11:48:40 AM »

You can buy costlier, can't buy better!!! :dunce:

how can you make that assumption?  he didn't even say what kind of battery tender he had it on (battery tender being a generic term as well as a brand name, kinda like q tip or band aid)?  and while that may have been true at one time, since deltran has shifted their bt manufacturing over to china, they are having a lot more problems, and failures.

my point was not to denigrate the tender, but if it did fail, a full blown battery charger would be needed to fully charge the battery.  so in this case, 'real' was meaning a battery charger as opposed to a float charger.

before i pass the :dunce: back, lets wait and see what the op says the solution was  :bananarock:
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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2013, 02:13:59 PM »

The battery tender is the Deltran brand and I bought it in 2008. Never had a battery go down since using it. I'm disconnecting the battery today to try to get the bike to reset.

I did try all the common codes 11111, 31313, 12345, and couldn't try the zip or st address of dealership because of 0 in both. I leave town for work on Mondayand won't be home for at least another month.
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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2013, 02:58:04 PM »

I disconnected the battery and put it on a real battery charger. It was fully charged!!!!
I have kept it in the same spot for 4 years and never had this problem. I've checked for any device that might cause an electrical interference but found none.

I'm out of ideas.
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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2013, 03:08:45 PM »

did you try the last five of the vin?

did you make sure that the fob batteries are new and in right side up?
« Last Edit: October 20, 2013, 03:13:35 PM by ekim60 »
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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2013, 04:02:46 PM »

Moved the bike out in the driveway, bought some more new batteries, installed the battery back in the bike and now it works.

Still haven't got the right code so I'll call the dealership again tomorrow and try to reset it. If not I will be going to the local dealership so that I can change the pin.

Never had a problem because I always change the batteries every 3 months as a precaution.

Still don't know the root cause or the fix because I did everything at once in despairation.
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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2013, 07:34:54 PM »


Still haven't got the right code so I'll call the dealership again tomorrow and try to reset it. If not I will be going to the local dealership so that I can change the pin.



very easy to reset the pin code.  don't need to go to the dealer for that.

with a working fob present, turn the ignition switch to run-off-run-off-run
press your left turn signal switch three times
press your right turn signal switch once

your existing code will now be flashing in the odometer, with the first digit flashing.  to change it, just press the left turn signal until the number you want is in the window.  note: zero is not an option

once you have the number you want, press the right turn signal to enter it and move to the next number. 

repeat until you have the entire number you want, and then just turn off your ignition

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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2013, 10:54:34 PM »

Have you changed the battery in the FOB?
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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2013, 11:06:23 PM »

I know how you feel... Had the same problem with my wife the last time I was away for two months...   :P

Stupid question: you did try with your second FOB, wright?   ???


... Other option: verify the address of that house to make sure it's yours...   ;)


More seriously, I had a problem like that and changed the FOB battery for another defective battery.  Took me a couple of hours to figure that out...



Good luck !!

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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2013, 08:34:09 AM »

before i pass the :dunce: back,

Wasn't aiming the  :dunce: at you personally, it sure looks like it though. Sorry,   :tekst-toppie:
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« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2013, 09:13:50 AM »

I got the pin changed to something I would remember and wrote in my book to be double safe.

It was a random number as far as I could tell. It didn't match the VIN or any address of any of the 3 dealerships they own Zip or street number.

If I had to guess, I would say I bought a 2 pack of dead batteries from the store. I did have both fobs. I made sure to put them in the same way I took them out so I would be able to flip them again if they didn't work a second time.

I deserve the  :dunce: for putting off changing the pin number!!! Lesson learned.

Thanks for the help
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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2013, 04:07:22 PM »

glad that you got it figured out.  now what you need to do is to practice using your override code a couple of times so that if you ever need to use it (again), you'll be able to knock it out without a lot of hassle
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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2013, 07:37:33 PM »

I got the pin changed to something I would remember and wrote in my book to be double safe.

It was a random number as far as I could tell. It didn't match the VIN or any address of any of the 3 dealerships they own Zip or street number.

If I had to guess, I would say I bought a 2 pack of dead batteries from the store. I did have both fobs. I made sure to put them in the same way I took them out so I would be able to flip them again if they didn't work a second time.

I deserve the  :dunce: for putting off changing the pin number!!! Lesson learned.

Thanks for the help

Welcome to the club !   :2vrolijk_21:

Here's how I made sure that this doesn't happen again...   :P
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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2013, 08:06:33 PM »

Welcome to the club !   :2vrolijk_21:

Here's how I made sure that this doesn't happen again...   :P

They must be cheaper by "bulk"... mine sharing where you getting them from? ;D

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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2013, 08:55:51 PM »

Of course !!!

eBay (don't buy from China).  They are usually good for ten years, Sony quality, no problem.

I bought 50 for $8 last year shipping included.  Just verified, you can get 50 from NY for less than $20 plus shipping.  If you search  further, you will find them for less...

Cheers. !   :beerchug:
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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2013, 09:01:20 PM »

Simple advice... At that price, I put new ones every spring.  Don't care if they can last for 5 years, I just can't remember my PIN...   >:(
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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2013, 09:03:39 PM »

Of course !!!

eBay (don't buy from China).  They are usually good for ten years, Sony quality, no problem.

I bought 50 for $8 last year shipping included.  Just verified, you can get 50 from NY for less than $20 plus shipping.  If you search  further, you will find them for less...

Cheers. !   :beerchug:
Awesome... thanks!!! :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2013, 09:35:46 PM »

I just can't remember my PIN...   >:(

use something simple for you to remember, first/last 5 of your phone number, first/last 5 of ssn, etc....
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« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2013, 09:42:08 PM »

use something simple for you to remember, first/last 5 of your phone number, first/last 5 of ssn, etc....

That' s the point...  I know it's the first 5 digit of something.  Just can't remember what !!!!

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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2013, 09:09:54 PM »

I used something I cant forget.....I have used it a couple times to make sure I know the procedure.

I bought my batteries from the grocery store, It sure screwed me because I got so mad I would have sold it if one of my friends offered to buy it.
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Re: Anyone have thier bike not recognize the key fobs
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2013, 12:08:31 AM »

batterybob.com ships from FL and they're brand name batteries. Free shipping conus, usually 5% off coupon codes on the net. He's even got conversions for oddball numbers. My Ride-On TPMS caps died and had a weird battery number. Ride-On wants to charge you $8 per unit plus return shipping to change the batteries. I did it myself and have enough batteries left to do each one two more times all for $5.65

On another note, I keep a piece of cellophane separating the battery from the contact on my spare fob. This way you're not wasting away another battery every year.
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