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CVO Social => In The News => Topic started by: 92fxsts on January 25, 2023, 06:06:33 PM
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This Should End Well: Harley-Davidson Vows to Go All-electric - The New American
https://thenewamerican.com/this-should-end-well-harley-davidson-vows-to-go-all-electric/
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This Should End Well: Harley-Davidson Vows to Go All-electric - The New American
https://thenewamerican.com/this-should-end-well-harley-davidson-vows-to-go-all-electric/
Well at least someone in the MoCo is looking at the future. But knowing HD it will be an electric bike built on "old classic" technology that is leaps and bounds BEHIND everyone else. It will be over priced and targeted to buyers who cannot afford it.
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Well at least someone in the MoCo is looking at the future. But knowing HD it will be an electric bike built on "old classic" technology that is leaps and bounds BEHIND everyone else. It will be over priced and targeted to buyers who cannot afford it.
Well said.
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This Should End Well: Harley-Davidson Vows to Go All-electric - The New American
https://thenewamerican.com/this-should-end-well-harley-davidson-vows-to-go-all-electric/
This is not going to go well. I can not go from my home to the dealer and back home on one charge. The dealer doesn't have a charging station. Im not all that rural.
So how will this work in KS for example, over 100 miles to next gas station. How far to next charge??????
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Looking forward to being amused by the MSRP posted on the box for the Screamin' Eagle Extension Cord.
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This is not going to go well. I can not go from my home to the dealer and back home on one charge. The dealer doesn't have a charging station. Im not all that rural.
So how will this work in KS for example, over 100 miles to next gas station. How far to next charge??????
I’m not concerned about that. When cars were invented the makers travelled by horseback or carriage. There were few to no paved roads you had to buy gas at the local hardware store. But technology caught up quickly and the “fad” of automobiles caught on. Now gas stations are on every corner and you can ride cross country on endless freeways.
With today’s engineering and technology the support will grow exponentially. Gas stations that wish to survive will adapt. Restaurants will offer more charging stations so folks can eat and charge. Will it be the perfection everyone sees? No. With everything be problem free? No. Is clean energy really clean? No. But it is improving. Just as we went from cars, points and drum brakes to efi, electronic ignition and abs brakes, we will go to this. If not for our unappreciative selves, then for our appreciative grand kids and great grand kids. We may not like it today, but it’s coming and we either adapt or pass on.
Just as we go to museums and see covered wagons, one day our great grand kids will go to museums and see our bikes and trucks. There will be TV shows featuring the “Barn Find” of a CVO Ultra, Ford Raptor, and Chevy Camaro SS.
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Even the thought is idiotic !! - Unless you are a city commuter. And who buys an HD CVO to city commute :nixweiss:
Electric vehicles are not helping the environment the least little bit, might even be worse at this point.
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Just as we go to museums and see covered wagons, one day our great grand kids will go to museums and see our bikes and trucks. There will be TV shows featuring the “Barn Find” of a CVO Ultra, Ford Raptor, and Chevy Camaro SS.
Have to disagree, the grand kids are going to go the Museum in rebuilt CVO's, Raptor's & Camreos because people will have realized by then that any more toxic waste dumps full of couple year old, not recyclable, fire prone, toxic mine site and more carbon emitting to produce EV's was a bad idea. Betting HD's future on electric after not even selling all the original Dudwires does'nt seem like a good business decision for a company that rides on its legacy. I like the fact that if I so choose I can take my CVO to the grave with some maintenance, it's one of the reasons I purchased it in the first place. That Dudwire will be in the museum before my CVO will & probably parked outside!
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This is a nothing burger. Not until alternative energy is advantageous over fossil fuels, it’s here to stay. Not until the military adopt an alternative energy thats eliminate fossil fuels, this is just smoke to make everyone feel good and to keep from being cancelled. That’s why Harley made the LiveWire. The LiveWire was developed for appeasement not profit.
But, when the day comes, Harley will finally fix their lifter issue.
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I’m not concerned about that. When cars were invented the makers travelled by horseback or carriage. There were few to no paved roads you had to buy gas at the local hardware store. But technology caught up quickly and the “fad” of automobiles caught on. Now gas stations are on every corner and you can ride cross country on endless freeways.
With today’s engineering and technology the support will grow exponentially. Gas stations that wish to survive will adapt. Restaurants will offer more charging stations so folks can eat and charge. Will it be the perfection everyone sees? No. With everything be problem free? No. Is clean energy really clean? No. But it is improving. Just as we went from cars, points and drum brakes to efi, electronic ignition and abs brakes, we will go to this. If not for our unappreciative selves, then for our appreciative grand kids and great grand kids. We may not like it today, but it’s coming and we either adapt or pass on.
Just as we go to museums and see covered wagons, one day our great grand kids will go to museums and see our bikes and trucks. There will be TV shows featuring the “Barn Find” of a CVO Ultra, Ford Raptor, and Chevy Camaro SS.
It can be the fastest growing technology there is. It can not and will not replace the Internal Combustion Engine for a very long time if ever. That states pushing Harder for Electric cars do not have the infrastructure to support electric cars. CA, has asked people not to charge their cars during peak electricity usage times. CA has had rolling black outs because they cant supply enough power. 2008 was the last power plant built in CA. CA EPA keeps blocking them.
Several other States have had rolling black outs. It's going to get worse as the Federal EPA is trying to shut all coal plants. I agree with shutting coal, however they are not replacing most the plants they are trying to shut. That leads to less available electricity. They don't want natural gas plant, they don't want Nuke plants. How we going to make enough electricity?
For travel they will not be practical for a long time. Many places you go 100 miles between gas in MT, WY, ND, SD, KS, and NB. Many towns out there have less then 100 people, I've been in sever with less than 20. Will not be cost effect to put in a charging station. Most the homes in these areas do not have residential service that can support a charging station.
I'm like electric cars. I do not believe in 15 years or so we can go all electric like everyone is pushing.
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We are moving the pollutants to different places. At this point in ICE,s the average lawn emits more hydrocarbons in a year versus a new car. So the pollution shifts from the tailpipe to the power plant smoke stack. When we think electric vehicles remember the lithium has to be mined by earth mover's (more pollution) and transported from china on ships (more pollution), refined (more pollution), and disposed in dumps, (more pollution). Electric transportation s only a palliative. It will make some feel better but won’t fix anything.
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We are moving the pollutants to different places. At this point in ICE,s the average lawn emits more hydrocarbons in a year versus a new car. So the pollution shifts from the tailpipe to the power plant smoke stack. When we think electric vehicles remember the lithium has to be mined by earth mover's (more pollution) and transported from china on ships (more pollution), refined (more pollution), and disposed in dumps, (more pollution). Electric transportation s only a palliative. It will make some feel better but won’t fix anything.
Exactly, It like global zoning.
The wealthy countries are zoned emissions free
The poor countries are zoned Industrial like China, India, South America and Africa where all the emissions are overlooked.
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If I ever get an electric bike, I’ll put a trailer hitch on it. Then I can pull a gas generator for peace of mind.
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If I ever get an electric bike, I’ll put a trailer hitch on it. Then I can pull a gas generator for peace of mind.
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This Should End Well: Harley-Davidson Vows to Go All-electric - The New American
https://thenewamerican.com/this-should-end-well-harley-davidson-vows-to-go-all-electric/
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This news is not shocking now, but no doubt there will be many shocked riders when there are a lot of E-Rod Harleys on the road.
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This news is not shocking now, but no doubt there will be many shocked riders when there are a lot of E-Rod Harleys on the road.
That would be a shock. Just don't see it, electric bikes and Harley's have been out quite a few years. I have yet to see one on the Road. Last Sumer a HD dealer on Long Island had two on his floor, both 2021's. Area has more than enough money to afford them.
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That would be a shock. Just don't see it, electric bikes and Harley's have been out quite a few years. I have yet to see one on the Road. Last Sumer a HD dealer on Long Island had two on his floor, both 2021's. Area has more than enough money to afford them.
At current battery tech performance levels, a commuter bike, say less than 100 miles per day is an option. For long distance or remote areas, where charging stations are not convenient or even available, we are years away from an electric bike becoming a practical option. The market will develop if the interest is there & the price points make sense. Presently they do not.
As far as being "green" or "better for the environment", it's something that sounds good until you peel a couple of layers off the manufacturing and/or recycling onions on the vehicle batteries & consider the true environmental impacts. Then it's just typical feel good claptrap, which is what a lot of marketing is. This type marketing is not limited to "green" technology but for some reason it works better there than other places.
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Looking forward to being amused by the MSRP posted on the box for the Screamin' Eagle Extension Cord.
Yeah, but the hologram lookin thingy UL sticker on there will make it look extra cool while watching & waiting 12 hours for your e-CVO to charge so you can go on that 125mi maximum range ride.
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Yeah, but the hologram lookin thingy UL sticker on there will make it look extra cool while watching & waiting 12 hours for your e-CVO to charge so you can go on that 125mi maximum range ride.
Going to be a long ride to Daytona for Bike Week on your E-Glide.....oops Most trailer so it won't matter.
It will cruise and park on Main Street Just fine
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Going to be a long ride to Daytona for Bike Week on your E-Glide.....oops Most trailer so it won't matter.
It will cruise and park on Main Street Just fine
So many truths in that statement.